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Posted: 7/24/2009 6:06:49 AM EDT
| Could you guys post some pics of your AR if you have a VTAC handguard? Also, could you give a brief personal review...how do you like it? its function? etc.? |
| I don't have pics of mine on the computer right now, but I have the M&P VTAC and it's a great rifle. The handguards are really nice if you don't need to put a bunch of rail accessories on your gun. I run mine with a fixed front on a two-inch rail and a VTAC light mount. They're light and handle really well. I haven't personally tried the new Troy handguards, but of all the smooth tube free-float fore-ends that I have handled––DPMS, PRI, and others––I prefer the VTAC. |
| I've got a VTac on my DPMS LR-308 (16" heavy) and i like it. All i've mounted to it is a side sling mount, a short light rail and a bipod swivel. I may get a pic up tonight. I will say that it is not as solid as some FF tubes i've played with, since it slips on and is held in place with 6 small radial screws. Could just be that the slip tolerance on mine is a little loose. it's certainly rigid enough for a front sight or bipod with no problems though. Between that and my UBR, it's decently heavy, but not rediculous to carry/shoot offhand. |
Here is my rifle length on a 16". Have a few more like it waiting for new builds and a mid-length one waiting on a tax stamp for a 10.5" SBR build. Comfortable, reasonably lightweight, and affordable. The only potential concern that I've read about is whether the small screws that hold it in place would stand up to rough handling with a lot of gear on the tube. I kept this build simple so I can't really speak to that issue though.
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16" DPMS LR-308
VTac handguard UBR Timney 3# drop-in trigger Springfield ART IV scope (From EE) on GG&G lever mount Eotech 552 with GG&G lever Vortex I partially wrapped the VTac because i like the texture better. The buckle is a sling mount. The overall color matches better in person, weird flash/lighting. 
Yes, the VTac is supposed to be offset with the .308 so it can have the same diameter as the AR-15 VTac 
Pelican 1700 
(Georgia Arms 168gr "Precision", top shot is fowling shot after boresnake/Remoil, bottom group is 5 shots) 
(Wideners Prvi 145gr FMJ, bullseye is fowling shot  Bottom group is actually 5 shots )
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http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/308/DSCN0600.jpg http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/308/DSCN0602.jpg http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/308/DSCN0612.jpg http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/308/DSCN0618.jpg Pelican 1700 http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/308/DSCN0615.jpg (Georgia Arms 168gr "Precision", top shot is fowling shot after boresnake/Remoil, bottom group is 5 shots) http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/308/DSCN0616.jpg (Wideners Prvi 145gr FMJ, bullseye is fowling shot Bottom group is actually 5 shots )absolutely gorgeous rifle. 
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Can anyone tell me if there are any issues with these getting too hot during long strings of fire?  Another reason why i wrapped a section...
it WILL get warm after 3 mags of rapid fire on the 308, but it cools off quickly. I've never gotten it uncomfortably hot. I can imagine a few beta dumps on an AR/M16 would get a little toasty though, if you're gonna do that get some shielded handguards, you don't need a freefloat tube...  Or get a forward grip. But as i said, it does cool down pretty quick with all the surface area, including the barrel nut ventilation.
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I used to run Vtac, but have switched to the new troy's becuase of cost and addition top rail and smaller tube, the new Vtacs are probably where you want to put your money Is there a new version of the VTAC? If so, what's changed? The newer VTacs are what you see on most of the rifles above. They have a completely enclused gas tube passage and the 2piece barrel nut. The older ones had a short section of exposed gas tube with the single peice barrel nut, leading to a lot of annoying finger burns... Someone correct me if i'm wrong? |
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I used to run Vtac, but have switched to the new troy's becuase of cost and addition top rail and smaller tube, the new Vtacs are probably where you want to put your money Is there a new version of the VTAC? If so, what's changed? The newer VTacs are what you see on most of the rifles above. They have a completely enclused gas tube passage and the 2piece barrel nut. The older ones had a short section of exposed gas tube with the single peice barrel nut, leading to a lot of annoying finger burns... Someone correct me if i'm wrong? I meant the newer vtac extreme, like the troy but with slots vs circles |
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I used to run Vtac, but have switched to the new troy's becuase of cost and addition top rail and smaller tube, the new Vtacs are probably where you want to put your money Is there a new version of the VTAC? If so, what's changed? The newer VTacs are what you see on most of the rifles above. They have a completely enclused gas tube passage and the 2piece barrel nut. The older ones had a short section of exposed gas tube with the single peice barrel nut, leading to a lot of annoying finger burns... Someone correct me if i'm wrong? I meant the newer vtac extreme, like the troy but with slots vs circles you mean this? 
yea didn't even know it was out... think $275 is a little high for a clamp-on tube... :-/ |
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I used to run Vtac, but have switched to the new troy's becuase of cost and addition top rail and smaller tube, the new Vtacs are probably where you want to put your money Is there a new version of the VTAC? If so, what's changed? The newer VTacs are what you see on most of the rifles above. They have a completely enclused gas tube passage and the 2piece barrel nut. The older ones had a short section of exposed gas tube with the single peice barrel nut, leading to a lot of annoying finger burns... Someone correct me if i'm wrong? I meant the newer vtac extreme, like the troy but with slots vs circles you mean this? http://www.21sttactical.com/images/P/vtac_xtreme_rail_lrg.jpg yea didn't even know it was out... think $275 is a little high for a clamp-on tube... :-/ I dont care for the looks of the new Vtac extreme, yes it make be strong and works well for what it is but so does many other handguards that look better. I think that handguard on a AR looks like a badass wearing a leather jacket with pinstriped pants. |
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16'' Delton, Ace skeleton, Vtac rifle length, Millet DMS with Burris mount, Timney 3lb single stage, Miculek muzzle brake.
Shoots 1/2-3/4 MOA Groups http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss335/finch6013/DSC_0003-1.jpg |
| Bryan, I used about 4-5 drops of blue locktite and let it set up for about 3-4 hours. Held the adapter nut very well while torqueing the barrel nut. I thought I'd have major problems removing when it came time to replace the upper. But the adapter has a large hole in it that will allow the use of a bar to remove. The blue locktite is gooey. I've also installed this handguard without any locktite at all. |
Shame it won't work with a piston.
Was going to use it for a precision rig but I'm running a piston on it for suppressor use and for the ability to turn it off. But the piston won't fit under it. Best looking tube for a precision rig IMO, heard nothing but good for the feel of it too.
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I used to run Vtac, but have switched to the new troy's becuase of cost and addition top rail and smaller tube, the new Vtacs are probably where you want to put your money Is there a new version of the VTAC? If so, what's changed? The newer VTacs are what you see on most of the rifles above. They have a completely enclused gas tube passage and the 2piece barrel nut. The older ones had a short section of exposed gas tube with the single peice barrel nut, leading to a lot of annoying finger burns... Someone correct me if i'm wrong? I meant the newer vtac extreme, like the troy but with slots vs circles you mean this? http://www.21sttactical.com/images/P/vtac_xtreme_rail_lrg.jpg yea didn't even know it was out... think $275 is a little high for a clamp-on tube... :-/ I dont care for the looks of the new Vtac extreme, ... I have to agree, I like the JP\VTAC much better then the Troy\VTAC even if the Troy version is a little more cost effective. |
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