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Posted: 7/1/2009 9:35:22 PM EDT
| The handguards on my buddy's Bushy M4 are really loose? They are seated in the rings correctly....should I have him try new handguards? suggestions? |
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Quoted: The handguards on my buddy's Bushy M4 are really loose? They are seated in the rings correctly....should I have him try new handguards? suggestions? Apply JB weld to the loose handguards, file to fit. Really easy, can be done in one afternoon. If you are REALLY lazy, applying layers of electrical tape directly to the plastic handguards works as well, but the JB weld is a much more permanent solution. Quoted: That is one of the reasons I prefer the Free Floated handguards, they are tight! They are mostly a waste of money. But i agree, i like the feeling of free floating handguards. |
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Quoted: Quoted: They are mostly a waste of money. But i agree, i like the feeling of free floating handguards. That's generalizing a bit, don't you think? Not really. There is a reason why the military still mostly uses the RIS/RAS. Arfcom and most AR-15 hobbyists follow trends, and get the best only because other do so and they just want the "best"... and not because they bothered to look at their own practical needs. -Increased accuray? minimal. Given that most people are just shooting FMJ-BT at ranges closer than 200 yards anyway... does it matter? Furthermore, testing by SAR revealed that the increased accuracy of free floating was so small that they wouldn't suggest it for PDs with budgets. -Heat Sink capability. How many people are out there overheating their plastic handguards with FA/bump firing... other than steve-o? -Increased durability. One member here put it best, either your rifle gets run over by a tank or it doesn't -Ease of mounting accessories: Most people mount a VFG and flashlight. that's it. Lots of other cheaper options out there. -Cooler look: FUCK YEAAAAAH At a carbine class, will free floating handguards have affect on practical accuracy more than ammo or shooter skill? Not by a LONG shot. I realize that i'm in the minority and I actually burn through 5-10K annually going to weekly matches, monthly matches, shooting for fun, and classes. Comparing the many free floating rifles i've owned to the many standard handguard rifles i've owned, i've never once felt under equipped with plastic handguards. Of course, i'm not shooting NRA high power. Too often I see people getting ragged on just because they didn't buy a $300 rail, which bang for buck, is probably the worst purchase anyone can make... but it'll certainly make your rifle more badass looking. I'm a badass weakling, so i've run the entire gamut of Daniel Defense/Larue rails. They are nice. But mostly something to burn my cash on. A precision AR/SPR clone, a 3-gun rifle... well yes, free floating gives you an edge. Otherwise, it's mostly a fashion accessory. |
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Edit: My post really should be in another thread, and the entire side tracked discussion. On track: I've never had set of standard handguards that weren't "loose". All have had some rotational play, some more than others. Would be hard for me to describe what I consider excessive, though. |
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They are mostly a waste of money. But i agree, i like the feeling of free floating handguards. That's generalizing a bit, don't you think? Not really. There is a reason why the military still mostly uses the RIS/RAS. Arfcom and most AR-15 hobbyists follow trends, and get the best only because other do so and they just want the "best"... and not because they bothered to look at their own practical needs. -Increased accuray? minimal. Given that most people are just shooting FMJ-BT at ranges closer than 200 yards anyway... does it matter? Furthermore, testing by SAR revealed that the increased accuracy of free floating was so small that they wouldn't suggest it for PDs with budgets. -Heat Sink capability. How many people are out there overheating their plastic handguards with FA/bump firing... other than steve-o? -Increased durability. One member here put it best, either your rifle gets run over by a tank or it doesn't -Ease of mounting accessories: Most people mount a VFG and flashlight. that's it. Lots of other cheaper options out there. -Cooler look: FUCK YEAAAAAH At a carbine class, will free floating handguards have affect on practical accuracy more than ammo or shooter skill? Not by a LONG shot. I realize that i'm in the minority and I actually burn through 5-10K annually going to weekly matches, monthly matches, shooting for fun, and classes. Comparing the many free floating rifles i've owned to the many standard handguard rifles i've owned, i've never once felt under equipped with plastic handguards. Of course, i'm not shooting NRA high power. Too often I see people getting ragged on just because they didn't buy a $300 rail, which bang for buck, is probably the worst purchase anyone can make... but it'll certainly make your rifle more badass looking. I'm a badass weakling, so i've run the entire gamut of Daniel Defense/Larue rails. They are nice. But mostly something to burn my cash on. A precision AR/SPR clone, a 3-gun rifle... well yes, free floating gives you an edge. Otherwise, it's mostly a fashion accessory. IDF counter snipers use 14.5 M4s with an Acog, non free float. |
| The monkeys at bushmaster pinned my FSB 1/16" too far forward which made the handguard cap flop around, there was no way to get the handguards even remotely tight on that rifle. I sent it back and they dropped it on the floor, dented up my upper receiver and still didnt' fix the FSB, fuck Bushmaster. |
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