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2/21/2009 7:15:37 AM EDT
I have had my DD Omega rail for a few months now and I must say, I am loving it. Is it just me or might it just be the best Rail system you can get, I know for it fact it is the lightest, very tuff I have not knocked it off zero, no wiggle at all (you would think there would be the way it goes on) but damn I already plan on getting one for my next Build (if it ever happens due to finding parts or a ban) but anyway Im thinking a LMT SBR (I dont have one yet and have always wanted a SBR) with a 12" DD omega rail and have the barrel custom made or cut down to 13.7 with a perm Krink KX3 Flash Suppressor. anyway I just wanted to thank DD for making such a easy, lite and strong rail system..

What do you guys think of yours? and my idea on making a Legal SBR, well I have seen one befor but I just want a little different setup.. sorry about the spelling its 6:15am here and I just cant get off the PC, AR's and this website are just rockin me right now..
2/21/2009 9:02:33 AM EDT
[#1]
I have a carbine length DD Omega rail and love the hell out of it as well.
2/21/2009 9:08:35 AM EDT
[#2]
Good setup, but not the lightest out there.
2/21/2009 9:29:35 AM EDT
[#3]



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Good setup, but not the lightest out there.


What is lighter?  I haven't found it yet...



 
2/21/2009 10:29:48 AM EDT
[#4]
I believe that the the DD Lite is lighter since it eliminates the delta ring.

Edit:
Looks like the Omega rail itself might weight less than the Lite but I bet that overall, the rifle will be lighter with the lite based on the reason above.
2/21/2009 10:35:48 AM EDT
[#5]
Listed weight of the Omega is for the rail only, not including the barrel nut.

Listed weights of the DD M4/Lite rails include the barrel nut.
2/21/2009 10:46:01 AM EDT
[#6]
I have the Omega on a midlength.  It's a sweet rail.  It is light but for some reason it doensn't feel as solid as my Samson or Troy rails.  There's no play in it but it just doesn't feel as solid to me.  That said, I love the profile and would buy another.
2/21/2009 11:25:33 AM EDT
[#7]
I just bought and installed a 9.0 on my home built midlength, and am really enjoying it. I've not been able to get to the range with it yet, but it feels pretty solid. I am currently using a TangoDown stubby vertical grip (With ADM quick release) and an Elzetta ZORM light mount, along with some Magpul XTM panels covering the rest.

I think my only con about the Omega is you have to adjust the set screws slightly to get it 100% aligned with the rest of the rifle (barrel and upper). I feel this is only a small issue, and only really an issue for someone with OCD or perfection issues, like me.

I highly recommend the Omega rail.
2/22/2009 2:43:20 AM EDT
[#8]
I am debating a DD 12.0 vs. a KAC M5 RAS for an A4-style build. Would I be better going with the DD?
2/22/2009 2:56:55 AM EDT
[#9]
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I am debating a DD 12.0 vs. a KAC M5 RAS for an A4-style build. Would I be better going with the DD?


do you want to free float, or drop-in? both are a quick install, but for a USMC A4 clone, you'll need the RAS.
2/22/2009 2:57:24 AM EDT
[#10]
I would say yes, it is lighter, free floating, and has a continuous top rail.
2/22/2009 2:59:49 AM EDT
[#11]
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I am debating a DD 12.0 vs. a KAC M5 RAS for an A4-style build. Would I be better going with the DD?


do you want to free float, or drop-in? both are a quick install, but for a USMC A4 clone, you'll need the RAS.


Two-piece, drop-in.  

How about an "A4-ish" clone? If the DD is a better rail, I just may go with it.

With that said, I really like the M4 RASs I have.

2/22/2009 3:08:15 AM EDT
[#12]
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I am debating a DD 12.0 vs. a KAC M5 RAS for an A4-style build. Would I be better going with the DD?


do you want to free float, or drop-in? both are a quick install, but for a USMC A4 clone, you'll need the RAS.


Two-piece, drop-in.  

How about an "A4-ish" clone? If the DD is a better rail, I just may go with it.

With that said, I really like the M4 RASs I have.



I like my M4 RASs too, but my DD Lite rails are better.

Now, between the Omega and the M5 RAS, I'd go with the M5 RAS, just for authenticity's sake.
2/22/2009 3:09:53 AM EDT
[#13]
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I am debating a DD 12.0 vs. a KAC M5 RAS for an A4-style build. Would I be better going with the DD?


do you want to free float, or drop-in? both are a quick install, but for a USMC A4 clone, you'll need the RAS.


Two-piece, drop-in.  

How about an "A4-ish" clone? If the DD is a better rail, I just may go with it.

With that said, I really like the M4 RASs I have.



I like my DD 9.0. I've never seen a 12.0 in person, so my comments are limited. The Omega rails attach by clamping over the barrel nut teeth, just as a normal plastic handguard does, but they also have 4 small set screws which lock into the teeth the same way the gas tube does, thus indexing the rail and locking it into place. I can't honestly say how strong this would be on a rifle length handguard, especially depending on what accessories you plan on mounting to it. I have not noticed any play in my 9.0, and I have a vertical grip, weapon light, and sling mounted to mine.

I can't say which is the better of the two, but I have owned a DD Lite, LaRue, and now the Omega 9.0 (not all on the same rifle). I like the Omega, and plan on leaving it on the rifle. From what I've seen, the cost is about the same on the two rails (DD and RAS), so for a more accurate clone, go with the drop-in RAS, or for a free float, go with the Omega.
2/22/2009 3:11:00 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
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I am debating a DD 12.0 vs. a KAC M5 RAS for an A4-style build. Would I be better going with the DD?


do you want to free float, or drop-in? both are a quick install, but for a USMC A4 clone, you'll need the RAS.


I am not really into making clones.. but I have used the RAS and I still like the Omega rail better due to the way it is shaped.. I also have a Troy MRF 9.0 for my Armalite Middy HBAR but I do use a FVG on both a LaRue FUG on my Armalite and a Tango Down QD on my LMT (the one of the Omega rail) the reason for going with the Tango down is it has the new QD latch that takes away the wiggle and I wanted somthing longer since my LMT is more of a CQ AR.. but like I said the omega rail just seems to solid being that the way it goes on.. I am not to ruff with my stuff but I dont baby it at all and it has been dropped (in grass and when I go into fast prone and the rail is standing up to just about anything.. as for the DD Lite Rail, I love it and would get one but there is just no reason to since there is the omega rail..

Just one thing anyone know the weight of the DD omega rail vs the DD lite rail once on the gun, if you know what I mean.. Just want to know how much lighter the DD lite rail is, I know it cant be much..
2/22/2009 3:18:12 AM EDT
[#15]
I pulled my M5 RAS off my A4 and put a 12" Omega on it. It did cut about a half inch off group sizes.  I don't use this as a training gun, so I don't know long term durability effects, but so far I like it.
2/22/2009 3:26:35 AM EDT
[#16]
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I am debating a DD 12.0 vs. a KAC M5 RAS for an A4-style build. Would I be better going with the DD?


do you want to free float, or drop-in? both are a quick install, but for a USMC A4 clone, you'll need the RAS.


Two-piece, drop-in.  

How about an "A4-ish" clone? If the DD is a better rail, I just may go with it.

With that said, I really like the M4 RASs I have.



I like my M4 RASs too, but my DD Lite rails are better.

Now, between the Omega and the M5 RAS, I'd go with the M5 RAS, just for authenticity's sake.


like I stated in the post above, Im talking about non clone AR's like built to the way you want it, not the way someone else does.. I would like to know how much of a difference the FF rail will make? I hear some people say a non FF rail can change your POI up to 1/2 MOA at 100 yards.. no matter what I am not that good of a shot unless I am on a bench.. the best groups I have got are with my Armalite Middy HBAR 1/9 twist it has a Troy MRF FF rail and some other good stuff, but stock 2 stage trigger and I have done just under Half an inch, that would be a 3 shot group using my Trusty TA31F ACOG, no need for crosshairs for good groups. anyway it was using Ultra Max 68gr Match HP, these are groups where done at 100 yards.. I have shot maby 6 or 7, groups like that.. that may not sound to good to most of you but it was with a non match barrel and a stock trigger for me thats pretty good.. but yeah sorry for the semi off topic rant...

back back to what I wanted to know, does FF really make much of a difference when shooting for groups.. I now avg 1" groups cuz I never get down to the range anymore with my new job but befor I went every weekend and shot about 200 rounds a week.. it was good fun while it lasted..
2/22/2009 4:24:28 AM EDT
[#17]
If you are using a sling in your shooting position a free floated rail with help more than if you are just using sandbags.  I personally wouldn't put a rail on a rifle that wasn't free floated.  Otherwise you can just add a rail to your A2 handguards for about $30.
2/22/2009 6:13:20 AM EDT
[#18]
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If you are using a sling in your shooting position a free floated rail with help more than if you are just using sandbags.  I personally wouldn't put a rail on a rifle that wasn't free floated.  Otherwise you can just add a rail to your A2 handguards for about $30.


ok, but yeah I know what you mean when there is the omega rail out there, no need for Drop in's when you can get the DD Omega rail thats free floated, the lightest and just as tuff as any other Drop in in type rail.. you might get away with running it over, might bend a bit but nothing major, lol..
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