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Posted: 9/26/2008 12:41:32 PM EDT
| I ordered a cheap quad rail after seeing a fella at the range with the same one..Its a UTG and it seemed well built anyone else using these? I know these are not operator rated stuff but have they served your needs well? |
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No, they were crap, a total mistake. Cancel the order, NOW. They look nice, but the rails are not mil-spec so ladder rail covers, VFGs, and flashlight mounts do not like it. Plus if you knick them they have bright silver metal under the surface and they are super soft metal, thus they are easy to knick. Get your money back and buy either a YHM free-float or non-free floating rail. They are way tougher and cost only a couple bucks more than UTG crap. UTG = $65 YHM = $90 Worth the $25 bucks, trust me. |
+1 No problems here. Very happy with mine. |
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If you want a great low cost rail buy a surefire. |
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No problems with mine. Snugged up tight with no wobble at all. I have a VFG and an ATN Javelin light on it, they both mounted with no problems. I have a YHM quad rail on my bushy and I can't tell the difference between them. For the cost the UTG is a damn good buy IMO. |
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aaah...ShadowCop...WTF mate? It's not BS, you can't lie to me and tell me UTG is better than YHM. I'd totally rather spend the extra money and get a nicer piece of hardware, not cheap chinacom. And I have first hand experience, I've purchased both the rifle and carbine UTG rail system. Neither attached as well as my YHM free-floating rail system. Plus, I moved the UTG carbine rails from a Bushmaster to a Stag Arms and the UTG wouldn't mount on the stag arms, it ended up stripping the screw so I couldn't put it back on my Bushmaster, I had 2 carbines with no handguards till I bought YHM units. Don't get me wrong, there's way better rails out there than YHM, I mean for not much more than that you can have a MidWest Industries rail or a Troy rail, way better than YHM, but they run $30-$50 more. If you want a cheaper rail that isn't shit, YHM is about as low as you should go. If I had to do it again, I'd have gone with a MidWest Industries FF rail on the rifle and Troy units on the M4s. And as far as the Surefire M73...I think it's a bit overpriced. I see it everywhere for $200, I'd rather get Troy for $150 or a free-floating MidWest Industries and save the $50 bucks, or spend an extra $40 and have a Larue. |
This dude is smoking weed. I have UTG, and have no problems mounting stuff on mine. They are very sturdy and well made - yes, others are better quaility however don't believe all the gear nazis that think you have to spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars. That's one thing that irritates me about arfcom. |
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I have used a UTG carbine rail before and it certainly wasn't shit. It is NOT made in China it's made in Tawain. My vert grip, light, and side sling mount fit it with no problem as did my ladder rails. I wouldn't expect it to attach as well as any free float rail. It's not that kind of system. It does lock up tight. It never moved thriough 9 months of E.R.T. training. It has T-marks and looks better than YHM. I've got 3 YHM rails and am not overly impressed with any of the three. I don't have a Stag Arms AR so I can't imagine why it wouldn't fit a Bushmaster, but not a Stag. Both should be made close to the same spec. I sold mine to a guy who has been perfectly happy with it and also has a vert grip and light attached. I put a DD Lite on because I needed a lite weight free float. It doesn't matter to me if someone buys it or not. I don't use one anymore. But don't throw out statements like grips won't fit, lights won't fit ect... when they will. Not everyone that comes on ARFCOM can afford the best or even YHM when they start out. You try to make the new guys feel like they are somehow below you because they don't have the best gear. The information is here and they see what they can build up to. I agree that a lot of, if not most of the fake optics, rip off irons are crap. But that could be all someone has the cash for. Buy once, cry once is a great theory. But if it's that or do without, I'll get what I can for now if I see someone says it will work. How many times has a new member been told you have to have a Colt or Noveske to be considered a serious player on here. Bullshit. |
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I have a UTG, and never had a single problem with it; a set of Magpul ladders on it & I'm good to go. I've mounted a few diferent optics, as well as lights, & lasers & never had problems with fit or stability. I totally get the mentality of buying stuff made here in the US, but when those companies want to bend me over for an extra $300 because they think I'm stupid enough to pay it...sorry I'll go to Taiwan everytime. There is no way I'm going to feel bad for not paying 6x the price simply because a few people on here want to justify their purchase. |
Don't make the mistake that UTG is even close to those $300 rail systems. If it suits you thats fine but you will not see them on hard use rifles anytime soon..........for good reason. It's not about justifying a purchase, better is better and better usually costs more. |
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UTG makes Airsoft products. UTG makes their products in CHINA, not Taiwan. Don't believe me? Check out airsoft forums - plenty of confirmation there that the products are made in China. I'd rather go without than have a UTG rail. Rails aren't an absolute necessity anyway, and I'd rather have a good one if I was going to put one on a rifle (starting with YHM and working my way up). Only about half my ARs have rails anyway, they still shoot bullets and make holes in paper. Your money is better spent on ammo or magazines. |
Obviously, artsohc had a different experience. Is it absolutely impossible to think that a cheap, made in China product might not be made to the same specifications every time? 
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I know they are a sort of umbrella corp. that buys products from other manufacturers and puts their name on them. So perhaps some are made in Taiwan and others in China, but I've personally seen ones marked Made in China. This could also explain why some are in spec and some are not. For example. link |
Funny, I still didn't see whetre the UTG AR hand guard was made in China. Another odd thing is 99% of the responses you see from people who actually used them liked them. Google it if you don't believe it. |
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Just an example of a UTG product made in China. Like I said they are a company which takes products from other companies and puts their name on them. So perhaps some are made in Taiwan and others in China. I was at a gun show a year ago, a dealer selling UTG rails convinced me not to buy one, believe it or not (he said the ARs I was selling were "too nice")...they were all marked "Made In China". I examined them and do not think they would pass a "drop test", the side rails wouldn't, that is. |
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So you are giving an opinion on something you've never owned? And that is based on a "dealer" at a gun show? I like my DD Lite on my duty weapon. I also have MI's and YHM's. All my rifles are free floated. But the UTG still did exactly what I asked it to do. I am not a fan of Chinese goods, other than my AK's. But the question was how are the hand guards and will they work. They will do the job and then some. |
I don't need to waste my money to know, after examining one closely, that they will not stand up to hard use. Someone selling them convinced me not to buy one. (I give opinions on Taurus pistols, only ever owned one, it jammed. But guess what? I sent a lot back to the factory for repair when I worked at a large gun store, statistically more than any other brand. So I advise people not to waste their money on Taurus) By hard use, I mean being banged around. I've seen plenty of gear fall apart, good and bad, and choose not to spend my money on gear that is likely to fail. I give advice based on my experiences. Cheap gear = more likely to fail. Whether that is during a foot patrol after months of daily use or accidentally dropping it on the concrete floor at the range. Shit happens. Besides, I've never seen plastic handguards fail...and I have them on several rifles. edit: Look, I never advise people to spend money they don't need to spend. I rarely recommend rail systems to people starting out. Some just want "the look" and I guess the UTG is great for that. You'll never find me advising someone to blow money unnecessarily just for a name. I will advise people not to buy gear that I don't feel would adequately meet their needs. A YHM 2 piece rail meets the needs of nearly everyone on ARFCOM, myself included - but some want more and that is their prerogative. At the moment I have 2 assembled ARs and enough pieces to build half a dozen (experimenting on the barrels with my neighbor's lathe). My go-to gun has standard handguards (and when the other 6 are reassembled, it will still be my go-to gun). The other has KAC handguards, because I got a good deal on them. |
| That I respect. I agree that too many buy unnecessary gear starting out. My favorite carbine is a 11.5" with removable carry handle and Trigicon night sights. My entry carbine does run extra gear that will stand up to a beating. A work rifle is different from a range rifle. I hate to see the average guy on here spend $200-$300 on a rail he probably doesn't need. But thats part of the mistique of the BRD. |
I'm part of that 99%. My UTG carbine rail has given me zero issues, very easy to install on my RRA, never had a problem mounting a light vfg's or rail covers. The UTG covers are bulky but do the job. It mounts very tight. Of course this is not top of the line gear, i got it as a gift before i knew what rail I wanted (MI FF), but for someone with little cash on hand and wants that tacticool look for their range gun it's perfect! BTW it is made in Taiwan 
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