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8/23/2008 5:10:24 PM EDT
What do you guys think of the LMT Rear tactical sight, as used on the Mk18, for my patrol rifle?  I went with the fixed front sight so I'd have no surprises if I had to deploy the rifle quickly or the optic failed.  Would you recommend this sight, another fixed, or a rear flip-up for my purposes?  I will eventually add an EoTech if that helps.  Thanks.
J
8/23/2008 5:32:43 PM EDT
[#1]
I currently have the LMT rear sight on my LMT patrol rifle and I really like it.  I also have an aimpoint optic mounted in a larue cantilver mount which gives me a lower 1/3 co-witness.  I personally like having a fixed rear sight as opposed to a flip up rear when you have a red dot optic.  Just in case your optic goes down, you can immediately transition without having to remember to flip up the rear sight.  (Unless you consistently train that way)  Just my .02
8/23/2008 5:35:45 PM EDT
[#2]
Question is, LMT fixed or LaRue fixed?
8/23/2008 5:59:18 PM EDT
[#3]
Understanding that I have neither, but will likely be getting one soon...

I would go with the LMT just because of the elevation adjustment.  Not a huge deal, I just like it.

stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/Detail.bok?no=29

www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=265
8/23/2008 6:53:07 PM EDT
[#4]
I have had both and prefer the compact size of the Larue BUIS. I was using it with an aimpoint M3 in Larue mount. I only used the BUIS at a max distance of 100yds so the elevation wasn't a big deal to me. Both are quality products.
8/23/2008 7:03:00 PM EDT
[#5]
I have a LMT rear sight which I bought with my 16" LMT carbine about three years ago but I never used its elevation adjustment all that time because I mostly shoot 100 yards sometimes on rare occasions up to 200 yds.

Compared with the LaRue sight the LMT windage knob could be easily accidentally moved, the LaRue have don't have an exposed knob and don't have this problem.

The LMT also have a larger foot print which takes up an extra rail position which makes a smaller clearance with an EOTech.

I like the heavy duty build of my LMT but my personal preference about the elevation and windage adjustments are the two points against it.

If I'm in the market for a fixed rear sight right now between the LMT and the LaRue, I would get the LaRue.
8/23/2008 9:25:10 PM EDT
[#6]
I have used a LMT rear sight for many years on my patrol rifles. It has advantages and disadvantages.

The point raised about the elevation accidently being moved is something I have never ever experienced. I personally don't think it's a huge issue to worry about unless other people have actually experienced it happen a number of times.

I personally like elevation adjustments. I can throw in a .22 conversion kit and adjust my rear sight to what the .22LR needs and then back again to my duty settings.

I enjoy shooting long distances with my rifle just to gain additional practice and experience with it that helps me with my closer range marksmanship. I use the Santose IBZ and the numbers are dead on for extended ranges. Do I need this for patrol use? No. I just prefer the versatility I guess.

Negatives? Takes up a bit of room on the rail. If you are going to use an EoTech such as a 512/552 (AA Battery) you need to be aware of what handguard you use. If you use a rail or CAR handguard you're ok. If you use a M4 double heat shield, Middy Tapered or Rifle Length handguard the rear of the handguard is too high to properly mount the optic. Solutions are to either remove some material via dremel (I did that route-doesn't hurt the guard and is purely cosmetic.) or get a riser such as the LaRue. Having to go that route puts you in the same price range then as an Aimpoint, something to consider with the EoTech. Some people also say that the LMT makes it harder to access the buttons on the EoTech. It is close, but I never felt a problem with it when I ran the EoTech.

Last negative I can think is that use of the LMT instead of a folding BUIS means you can't use magnifiers or magnified optics. I prefer to leave my BUIS upright and would rather it not fold for the patrol rifle anyways. If I need a magnified optic I personally will use a different upper or rifle for that application. I like the LMT because if I have a need for irons, it is automatically up and ready to go, right now.

Just my experiences.
8/24/2008 5:45:35 PM EDT
[#7]
Very good points above. Having used them both I much prefer the Larue. It's simple, effective, very strong, and it looks good. After all it is a backup site that you will probably never actually need anyway. But if you do i think its just as effective. You can usually find a good deal on them on the EE. Thats where i got mine.
8/25/2008 9:33:28 AM EDT
[#8]
If someone suggest that a LaRue QD EOTech mount could be used with the LMT BUIS I would have to disagree.

When I got my LaRue LT-110 EOTech QD mount for my optic it won't fit on my upper rail with my LMT BUIS, I had to remove the LMT sight and change it with something that takes up less space and I picked the Troy BUIS because I'm also going to use my magnifier.

Another user complaint about the LMT (and the detachable carry handles) BUIS is that the mounting knob protrudes quite a bit out and it interferes with the left side of the CH, it usually slows down when clearing FTF of the weapon.

Some members here solved that problem by using low profile aviation type nuts, there should be some threads here if you do a little search if you want more details.

Bottom line is it's just personal preference, I'm used to my first AR SP1's A1 sight and I prefer it over the A2 type sights, I only like the A2 sights when using them for CMP match target competition but it's too slow for me when firing at different distances quickly, I'd rather do holdover aiming rather than adjust my elevation adjustment.
8/25/2008 6:53:42 PM EDT
[#9]
If you have an extra carry handle floating around that you aren't using, get out a hacksaw, and chop it down.  It costs you nothing but a few minutes of time.  
8/26/2008 4:23:07 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
If you have an extra carry handle floating around that you aren't using, get out a hacksaw, and chop it down.  It costs you nothing but a few minutes of time.  



Or a bit longer if you want to finish the front off smoothly, and maybe color the front wall.
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