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8/22/2008 3:23:46 PM EDT
Who makes the best conversion unit and how reliable are they?  I'd like to buy one for my middy.
8/22/2008 3:58:12 PM EDT
[#1]
If you don't own one, you should.... yesterday.

They are awesome and will pay for itself in one outing.

I have 2 Ceiner conversions and both function flawlessly w/ Federal bulk pack from Walmart.


I would check out the CMMG kits which will be available sometime soon at Brownells.

Also, check out the Caliber conversion forum.
8/22/2008 4:12:04 PM EDT
[#2]
I saw the CMMG conversions.  What should I expect to pay for a Ciener?
8/22/2008 4:46:28 PM EDT
[#3]
I got a Ceiner from Cheaperthandirt ($140, IIRC) but I can't really compare it to anything else since I don't have anything else.

Does what I want it to do, may not be as accurate as a full-upper type conversion, but I look at my AR as a plinking rifle rather than a precision one*, so it works just fine for me. Occasional FTE, probably isn't broken in yet. I think it's certainly worth the price.



* Yes, I know, but I have several other rifle platforms that I enjoy for distance accuracy.
8/22/2008 5:09:39 PM EDT
[#4]

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* Yes, I know, but I have several other rifle platforms that I enjoy for distance accuracy.




No you didn't.  
8/22/2008 5:12:09 PM EDT
[#5]
I've got a Ciener and a Spikes dedicated upper. The Ciener works well enough, but Spikes tweaked it for me. It has to run wet. Now the Spikes bolt/carrier runs on 2 drops of oil and is very clean after I shoot. The dedicated upper is more accurate. Both are pretty reliable. I keep the Ciener so I can use it in any of my AR's. The Spikes is the one I shoot, and shoot, and shoot
8/22/2008 5:59:11 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
I saw the CMMG conversions.  What should I expect to pay for a Ciener?


If you can find one? Around $200. Less if you search the EE. They pop up on the EE here and there. I bought my second one on the EE about a month ago for $200 shipped, NIB. THe CMMG version looks like an almost exact copy of the Ciener anyways. I would just get that. Ciener is the sux big time when it comes to CS.

Oh, and don't forget your BDM mags!!
8/24/2008 12:58:34 AM EDT
[#7]
I love my Compass Lake .22 upper
8/24/2008 1:03:19 AM EDT
[#8]
Well I'll be damned, I didn't know CMMG was making a .22lr conversion kit. Isn't that nifty?
8/24/2008 3:08:22 AM EDT
[#9]
Yes it is.   CMMG had a thread here a while ago about it.  I believe they were to be ready for shipping in September (not sure it has been a couple weeks)

I got my ciener through ctd with a black dog for around $250 a little over a month ago
8/24/2008 3:51:31 AM EDT
[#10]

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Yes it is.   CMMG had a thread here a while ago about it.  I believe they were to be ready for shipping in September (not sure it has been a couple weeks)

I got my ciener through ctd with a black dog for around $250 a little over a month ago


You people are being ripped off, if you're paying that kind of money for Ciener kits.  Even w/a Black Dog mag, y'all shouldn't pay more than $200; and w/the standard 10 round mag full list price is $160. With the 30 round Ciener mag, list is $201.79, but who would pay Ciener's price for a 30 rounder, when the Black Dog is available for so much less.

8/24/2008 11:44:44 AM EDT
[#11]
Supply and Demand my friend.
8/24/2008 12:31:58 PM EDT
[#12]
I have a few.  


8/24/2008 5:18:01 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
I have a few.  


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