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11/15/2007 10:07:49 PM EDT
I'd like to put some rails on my AR so I can put a light on it and also try out some other gadgets.  I've got a RRA Entry Tactical so I'm guessing it will need to be carbine length.  Is that correct?

What do you guys recommend?  Is there anything I can install myself?  Or do I need to take it to a gunsmith?  Are there special tools needed to install it?  Free float?  Two piece? One piece?  Which is better and why?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Pics are also good.

-Nick
11/15/2007 10:20:19 PM EDT
[#1]
Check this thread out.  Lots of pics.

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=226782

Scroll down to the handguard install section.  It covers the complete installs and also shows some of the different types of rails.



11/15/2007 10:28:27 PM EDT
[#2]
I would honestly say just get a used KAC RAS off the EE.

You'll wind up with a MUCH higher quality rail system than you could get with anything else in that price range, and while it's not free floating, so what?  It's a carbine, not a 24" fluted SS match rifle.

Also because it's two-piece, it'll be easy as pie to install.

Short of that, I'd say skip the YHM & MI rails & go straight for a Troy/Samson.  I know, I know, the YHM & MI are perfectly good rails that I'm sure will be fine, it's just that they're circular instead of oval and that bugs the hell outta me.  Makes it too fat in my opinion.

3rd option is go big.  Either LaRue/DD or REAL BIG with Vltor VIS2/LMT MRP.

It's all about how much you want to spend.  Just remember not to put too much stock into the whole "gotta free float it" mentality for a carbine.  You can, but it's not as high a priority as some make it out to be.
11/15/2007 11:03:10 PM EDT
[#3]
I got a used Surefire M73 carbine rails for $115 and a 4 pannel set of KAC panels for $28 and a TD grip for $45..the whole set up for what it would have cost me for a new surefire.The M73 locks in tight + im not gonna mountoptics so the YHM 2 piece handgurds would have done as well..M73 right time and price.YHM 2 piece ones go $150 new and ive seen them as cheap as $110 new.Check the E Exchange.
11/15/2007 11:32:09 PM EDT
[#4]
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=12&t=172238

yea, CAR length, round cap

for the price, MI, YHM, Surefire; if not, Troy, KAC, Samson, DD. Larue are good

FF imo is pretty useless for non-target orientated uppers and more complicated to install; fo r your AR, i'd opt for a simple repacable HG set
11/16/2007 12:16:16 AM EDT
[#5]
There is a lot of talk about Daniel Defence:

New Products Forum Discussion
11/16/2007 12:26:50 AM EDT
[#6]
Since you're unsure about the rail you want, I'd definately steer you towards the Troy/Samson.

They're mid-priced, simple to install and rock solid.
11/16/2007 7:01:09 AM EDT
[#7]
KAC RAS or MI#17.
11/16/2007 8:50:28 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I would honestly say just get a used KAC RAS off the EE.


+1. I probably would have never bought a set of rails for my Stag 16" if it weren't for the EE. I found a set of new KAC RAS that I got for less than $180 shipped.
11/16/2007 9:01:59 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I would honestly say just get a used KAC RAS off the EE.


+1. I probably would have never bought a set of rails for my Stag 16" if it weren't for the EE. I found a set of new KAC RAS that I got for less than $180 shipped.


I got a KAC as well from the EE. Cool thing as well, I was having a mounting problem...KAC knew I bought it used from an individual, and they were more than happy to help me.

11/16/2007 3:26:11 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Short of that, I'd say skip the YHM & MI rails & go straight for a Troy/Samson.  I know, I know, the YHM & MI are perfectly good rails that I'm sure will be fine, it's just that they're circular instead of oval and that bugs the hell outta me.  Makes it too fat in my opinion.



Now I just built a rifle with YHM handguards. Yes they are round. But I do not find them uncomfortable. Maybe you will, maybe you won't.

The handguard measures ~2.25" diameter. ~2.50" with rail covers. Ladder covers do not add much to the diameter.

I added ladder covers to the sides and panels to the top and bottom. This does help give an oval feel. But again, I don't find the size or shape all that uncomfortable.
11/16/2007 4:42:51 PM EDT
[#11]
I love KAC RAS on my LMT DEFENDER 2000 M4

but be carefull WHO YOU BUY IT FROM

alot of FAKES

MI has rail hand guards for a CHEAPER PRICE

I hear they are pretty good
11/16/2007 4:46:28 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I would honestly say just get a used KAC RAS off the EE.


+1. I probably would have never bought a set of rails for my Stag 16" if it weren't for the EE. I found a set of new KAC RAS that I got for less than $180 shipped.


I got a KAC as well from the EE. Cool thing as well, I was having a mounting problem...KAC knew I bought it used from an individual, and they were more than happy to help me.



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