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Posted: 10/7/2006 4:42:09 PM EDT
| is there a way to attach the bottom rail on a troy so it is soild and doesnt slide back and forth that little bit? i know the spring and dentent holds it in place but its not soild. can a set screw be added maybe? i dont plan on removing the bottom portion of the rail often and i dont use an m203. anyone have any ideas?? tom |
| I did not have any problems when I assembled the Troy handguns to my upper. The one I have has a very tight fit between the bottom rail and the main group. I could see that you could make a modification with a set screw type. Just get the right size tap and die set and it could solve your problem. |
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I had the same problem with my Troys. I correctly installed them to several different uppers with same result. Movement.....1/16" enough to notice. Get rid of the Troys, call up Scott from Samson, and tell him your problem, he'll fix it for you. I went with Samson, that has an extra locking screw to keep it from moving period. Do a search on my problem with the Troys, getting another headache repeating..... |
I just installed my Samson 12" today and it has a spring loaded detent and retaining screw... I thought Troy's and Sampsons were almost identical? |
They are almost identical. The main difference is that Samson removes more metal from teh inside areas so it's a little lighter but theoretically a little weaker. They've both gone through a few variations on the detent/screw retention. |
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Hey guys, I am very happy to see this thread is so civil early on. Lets hope it stays that way.  The Samson rail has a few differences in the detent area. First, Samson uses a captured detent rather than loose parts. This was just to aid in faster assembly. You don't have to worry about loosing the spring or detent accidently. Next is the retention screw. Scott Samson knew that a lot of us will not need to remove the bottom rail for an M203 so he added a screw to bolt the bottom rail securely to the barrel nut clamp. This additional security will make sure there is no way for the bottom rail to move a fraction of an inch. Even without the screw, Samson's larger detent is pretty damn tight. The screw was a cheap way to add security in an unsecure world.  If you have Troy rails, there is no way to upgrade to add the retention screw because you would need a new clamp and a new lower rail and there is no telling if the rails would mate. The reason some rails will be looser than others is due to manufacturers tolerances. Samson goes to great lengths to make sure that the detent system he uses will be a TIGHT fit. He will scrap a rail if the fit is not tight enough. I guarantee I have sold more Samson rails than any other dealer and I have NEVER had a rail come back because the fit was loose. I am going to drop it here. I know there are other diffrences that are not relavent to this thread so I will leave them out. Sufice it to say that Samson does not have a problem with a loose bottom rail because of the steps he takes to prevent it. That is one reason Samson rails are going to cost a little more, but we think they are worth it. Thanks, Rob I will try to post a pic a little later. TalonArms.com |
+1 sometimes you have to beat the shit outta em. |
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