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4/26/2006 6:19:59 PM EDT
I was debating trying one of these in a M4 for 3-gun...anyone here ever try one?  My friend just purchased one, and we were reading the instructions which states to not use with a hydralic buffer.  This is what I intended to do...run a pigtail with my Enidine carbine buffer...any ideas why this may or may not work?

4/26/2006 6:22:49 PM EDT
[#1]
Get a PRI Fat Boy, it does the same job with none of the drawbacks of the Pig Tail.
4/26/2006 8:58:48 PM EDT
[#2]
Second that, the pigtail is cool and is probably the better product inside 100rds, after that you run the risk of getting it hot enough that the tempering goes and it tries to straighten out.

I've heard that 100rds of automatic fire will kill the tube, but if you are doing semi Auto and your stages aren't more than three magazines, I would say go ahead it might give you a performance edge in reliablility and maybe a softer recoil spike.
4/27/2006 5:22:46 AM EDT
[#3]
Thanks...I cancelled the order for the pigtail.  If I go with the PRI Fatboy tube, how do you think it would react to the Enidine buffer...the info of PRI's site also states to use with a standard buffer!?

4/27/2006 5:40:33 AM EDT
[#4]
probably cause more problems than you want it to solve.
4/27/2006 6:49:23 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Thanks...I cancelled the order for the pigtail.  If I go with the PRI Fatboy tube, how do you think it would react to the Enidine buffer...the info of PRI's site also states to use with a standard buffer!?




I wanted to know the same thing...

I say you try it first, and then post pics...


Mike

4/27/2006 7:09:38 AM EDT
[#6]
WHy not just use an MGI RRB buffer?
By the time you buy an Enidine and some kind of specialty gas tube, you're in the similar price category as an RRB anyway.
The RRB will work better to do what you want, and doesn't require you to change the gas tube.
And it's fully guaranteed to do what you want, or your money back.
Everybody thinks it is too expensive, until they try it. Then they swear it was worth every penny it cost.
4/27/2006 8:26:11 AM EDT
[#7]
I already have the Enidine...just looking to game out my 3-gun rifle!
4/27/2006 1:03:56 PM EDT
[#8]
I do sucessfully run the Fat Boy and the MGI RRB in several setups.
4/27/2006 2:50:40 PM EDT
[#9]
If you find a PRI Fat Boy please let me know.. they are out of production and I can't find them anywhere.  FWIW, the PRI Fat Boy is unlikely to work together with an Enidine or MGI RRB.  A few AR's will but most won't.
4/27/2006 3:12:20 PM EDT
[#10]
So...Ummm...what exactly is the problem that makes you want to buy a pigtail or fatboy?

4/27/2006 3:29:38 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
So...Ummm...what exactly is the problem that makes you want to buy a pigtail or fatboy?




My AR's run perfectly, I'm just trying to make one a "gamer" gun for 3-Gun matches.  My M4 already shoots really soft with my muzzle brake and Enidine buffer.

4/27/2006 3:32:49 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
If you find a PRI Fat Boy please let me know.. they are out of production and I can't find them anywhere.  FWIW, the PRI Fat Boy is unlikely to work together with an Enidine or MGI RRB.  A few AR's will but most won't.



Precision Reflex, Inc
4/27/2006 3:50:32 PM EDT
[#13]
ADCO shows them in stock.


www.adcofirearms.com/acc/ProductLine.cfm?brand=PRi&page=


FWIW, the PRI Fat Boy is unlikely to work together with an Enidine or MGI RRB. A few AR's will but most won't.




2 of my 3 Direct Impingment carbines will and do run an MGI RRB and a PRI Fatboy and will run it with weak ass wolf.

The other one has a LMT enhanced Bolt an carrier and along with the RRB in it, it needs no fat boy.

Why have a Fat Boy?  It reduces cycling stress on the bolt lugs by delaying bolt opening and softens the recoil impluse.
4/27/2006 8:34:46 PM EDT
[#14]


Thanks for the heads up.
4/27/2006 10:02:53 PM EDT
[#15]

"2 of my 3 Direct Impingment carbines will and do run an MGI RRB and a PRI Fatboy and will run it with weak ass wolf."

I was on the range yesterday with a crappy M4 with a standard gas system and tube and an H-buffer/C4IGRANT CS buffer spring that I was told was a great product...  

Wouldn't function with Wolf.  it was short stroking- would eject but not strip the next round or lock the bolt to the rear.  

Now I understand how the spring lowers recoil-- the buffer probably doesn't touch [or barely touches] the rear of the tube with full power 5.56 ammo.
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