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3/22/2006 5:50:02 PM EDT
I posted this in another thread, but I'm trying to get as much feedback as possible...any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Just put an Enidine in my M4, and the rifle short stroked on every single round! Was using Win white box and FED red box 55gr loads. They would fire and eject, but carrier would not travel far enough back to pickup another round. Called and e-mailed Enidine on Monday, but have had zero response in three days. Recoil did feel great, but if I want a single shot gun I'll get a bolt action!

Was debating trying a Wolff reduced power action spring for the CAR...maybe this will help???
3/22/2006 7:19:34 PM EDT
[#1]
Try it out in another rifle or send it back. You should not have to change any springs or ammo; it works or it does not. If it does not work I'm sure Enidyne will want it back to see why.
3/22/2006 9:13:35 PM EDT
[#2]
Is this a CAR length or an AR lngth buffer you have? (I know improbable but needs to be discounted)

Does it work in another carbine?

3/23/2006 3:21:36 AM EDT
[#3]
AR "Enhancement Gadgets"  are a wonder lately.  I local customer had the same problem with his carbine, running the same ammo from Walmart.  I gave him a standard CAR buffer and spring and it fixed everything.

I dont understand why people spend $90 to replace a $12 part that works fine?

3/23/2006 4:18:59 AM EDT
[#4]

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AR "Enhancement Gadgets"  are a wonder lately.  I local customer had the same problem with his carbine, running the same ammo from Walmart.  I gave him a standard CAR buffer and spring and it fixed everything.

I dont understand why people spend $90 to replace a $12 part that works fine?




keeps you in business doesnt it ?
3/23/2006 4:27:04 AM EDT
[#5]
Dont fix the old one if it aint broke!
3/23/2006 4:31:36 AM EDT
[#6]

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AR "Enhancement Gadgets"  are a wonder lately.  I local customer had the same problem with his carbine, running the same ammo from Walmart.  I gave him a standard CAR buffer and spring and it fixed everything.

I dont understand why people spend $90 to replace a $12 part that works fine?




keeps you in business doesnt it ?



Nope. I dont sell stuff I think is an unnecessary waste of money.
3/23/2006 4:45:13 AM EDT
[#7]
Big bore

I like your THINKING
3/23/2006 4:55:21 AM EDT
[#8]
eringobragh, trying using some mil-spec ammo (M855 for instance). A lot of the commercial stuff is under powered. Also, Enidine has changed the interior spring on them (as it was to stiff). Contact them about your problem and they might give you a new one.
3/23/2006 5:27:41 AM EDT
[#9]
I'm going to throw my Enidine in my 9mm setup, it works fine there.  For now I am switching back to a CAR buffer due to feeding problems as mentioned above.  I did notice a reduction in recoil but I need the gun to feed 100% first!  

Wolf ammo was a waste of time in the gun with the Enidine.  

At first I thought this thing was THE SHIT due to recoil reduction, but then I experienced the feed problems.  
3/23/2006 7:16:11 AM EDT
[#10]
Yes it is the carbine sized buffer in my telestock.  I haven't tried it in another rifle yet, or with any mil-spec ammo.  I have about 1,000 rounds of M855, so I'll try some of that.  Also grabbed some FED red box 62gr to try also.

One interesting note...I was digging thru some of my old AR parts and I had another CAR length recoil spring...it's shorter than the one in my rifle now!  I put it into the gun with the Enidine, and I can easily pull the charging handle back to the point of locking the bolt.  Can't do this with the other spring without really tugging on the charging handle!  Haven't shot it this way yet...
3/23/2006 8:02:20 AM EDT
[#11]

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AR "Enhancement Gadgets"  are a wonder lately.  I local customer had the same problem with his carbine, running the same ammo from Walmart.  I gave him a standard CAR buffer and spring and it fixed everything.

I dont understand why people spend $90 to replace a $12 part that works fine?




keeps you in business doesnt it ?



Nope. I dont sell stuff I think is an unnecessary waste of money.



well what i meant was without the aftermarket mods out there...junk or no junk they keep your business up and running.
3/23/2006 10:34:40 AM EDT
[#12]
Just spoke with Bill Shurmatz directly at Enidine!  Very very friendly and helpful gentleman.  We're going to try a few different things (i.e. some newer fresher ammos, the shorter spring I found, etc.) and see what happens!?!?  Bottom line...Bill said they would do whatever necessary to make things right, even if it means refunding my $$$...can't beat that for service!
3/23/2006 11:16:25 AM EDT
[#13]
Not trying to start a war, but you guys know that some "gadgets" actually do work at performing a specific requirement.  The buffers help with big kickers, or perhaps a full auto weapon, helping keep the gun on target.  It's not so much the gadget, but understanding what it does, what you need, and how the overall system is or can be affected.

I would agree that changing stuff out just to do it is not usually the best course, but for some folks that is part of the enjoyment of owning the AR system.  While it does keep the makers happy, what is wrong with the end user have some enjoyment with tinkering?  Again, as long as they understand what they are doing.  While the original poster might not have previously understood the issues involved here, when he is done he will certainly have a better understanding of his system, i.e. rifle.  That is worth something more than just reading about things on a board.

Craig
3/23/2006 11:40:41 AM EDT
[#14]
I have one in my POF.  I use a 9mm in my DPMS (DI) M4.  Both help muzzle jump and provide extra time for follow up shots.  Through the POF with the Enidine I have not had a single failure to lock back, double feed, short stroke or any problem of that sort.  My suggestion for those who want the perfomance enhancement provided by the Enidine and have lock back issues is for them to switch from the Enidine to a 9mm buffer.  It is only slightly less effective than the Enidine and there should be no lock of lock back as there is no hydraulic mechanism to prevent lock back...


TS
3/25/2006 10:28:13 AM EDT
[#15]

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eringobragh, trying using some mil-spec ammo (M855 for instance). A lot of the commercial stuff is under powered. Also, Enidine has changed the interior spring on them (as it was to stiff). Contact them about your problem and they might give you a new one.



There is no reaon why an AR should not cycle Win. white box
3/25/2006 4:33:22 PM EDT
[#16]
Because dear sir:     "Iiiiiiiiiiii's gotttsss to know!

3/25/2006 7:01:24 PM EDT
[#17]
I run the Enidine buffer in 2 M16s with CAR stocks and they both run 100%.  I'm running a mix of surplus and Wolf ammo.  Great for follow up shots.
3/27/2006 5:32:37 AM EDT
[#18]

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AR "Enhancement Gadgets"  are a wonder lately.  I local customer had the same problem with his carbine, running the same ammo from Walmart.  I gave him a standard CAR buffer and spring and it fixed everything.

I dont understand why people spend $90 to replace a $12 part that works fine?




keeps you in business doesnt it ?



Nope. I dont sell stuff I think is an unnecessary waste of money.



I like the reduced recoil felt in the carbine.  I use a 9mm buffer in my 14.5 gun and enjoy it.  Best $ I've dropped in aftermarket accessories.  I also look forward to acquiring a MGI buffer, it's not about working fine, it's about working better.  It's evolution!  Sorta like that goddam Geiselle trigger I'm still trying to save $280 for!

My current trigger works fine, but I know there's one out there that works....better.  From what I read the Enidine is loaded with more reliability problems than an Armalite AR10.
3/27/2006 7:04:31 AM EDT
[#19]

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Not trying to start a war, but you guys know that some "gadgets" actually do work at performing a specific requirement.  The buffers help with big kickers, or perhaps a full auto weapon, helping keep the gun on target.  It's not so much the gadget, but understanding what it does, what you need, and how the overall system is or can be affected.



+1 - The Endine buffer is doing exactly what it was designed to do - provide more resistance to the unlocking of the bolt. As a result, your WWB ammo is short stroking because it doesn't generate enough oomph to cycle the gun. Rather than spend the money on a new weaker spring, you should just replace the original CAR buffer.
5/5/2006 10:56:27 AM EDT
[#20]

I was digging thru some of my old AR parts and I had another CAR length recoil spring...it's shorter than the one in my rifle now! I put it into the gun with the Enidine, and I can easily pull the charging handle back to the point of locking the bolt. Can't do this with the other spring without really tugging on the charging handle!


I was trouble shooting a friends Bushie Patrolman's Carbine a couple of weeks ago during a range trip. He stated it would fire a 3-4 rounds and then jam. I loaded a several 20 round mags and ran the first one to find he was correct. I did a quick function check and found that pulling the charging handle completely to the rear gave a distinct felt resistance that didn't feel normal. Pulled a new carbine recoil buffer spring out of the parts box and removed the standard carbine buffer & recoil spring from the Bushie. Comparing the two revealed that someone had installed a rifle length recoil buffer spring in the carbine. Replaced it with the new & correct carbine recoil spring and pulling the charging handle back felt correct. Fired and additional 200 rounds without any further problems.

Sometimes it is just the simplest things ................

5/5/2006 12:53:54 PM EDT
[#21]

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I posted this in another thread, but I'm trying to get as much feedback as possible...any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Just put an Enidine in my M4, and the rifle short stroked on every single round! Was using Win white box and FED red box 55gr loads. They would fire and eject, but carrier would not travel far enough back to pickup another round. Called and e-mailed Enidine on Monday, but have had zero response in three days. Recoil did feel great, but if I want a single shot gun I'll get a bolt action!

Was debating trying a Wolff reduced power action spring for the CAR...maybe this will help???



Is it the buffer or the rifle ?
I am not sure what type of specs the buffer was designed for.  But try the same Enidine in another carbine.  Does it short stroke in that carbine ?  If not, that may take the Endine out of the equation.  I would start there in order to try to zero in on a correct solution.


5/6/2006 1:59:26 PM EDT
[#22]
I forgot all about this thread!  My Enidine is working 100% now!  After everything, it was an ammo issue rather than a problem with the buffer.  I was using really really old Winchester Western ammo that was "turned in for disposal" at the shop I work at...who knows how it was stored, etc.  Went out with brand new Win white box and Fed red box, and shazam the gun runs perfect!  I did have bolt lock back issues with every GI mag I have, but zero problems with my H&K high reliability mags...locks every time!

5/19/2006 3:44:04 AM EDT
[#23]
I have a 11.5 barrel M16 and currently use an unknown weight 'H' buffer.  Gun works fine but cyclic rate is FAST so I picked up an Enidine buffer.  I will try it this weekend and compare cyclic rate with a timer later next week.  I installed it in the weapon and have no problems locking the bolt to the rear..  
I was wondering how the Enidine works to perform the 'anti-bounce' function because It does not have a 'loose weight' inside it..  does anyone know??
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