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6/10/2005 11:07:09 PM EDT
Pondering choise of upper reciever for KISS rifle:

#1) C-7

#2) A-2

#3) Flattop w/ fixed rear buis


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What would be neat would be an upper with a fixed rear sight built in to the reciver forging...but with no carry handle; instead, some rail up front. Stronger than a removable "fixed" (non-folding) rear BUIS, while still retaining the option of slapping on a scope with proper optical axis clearance.

Is this beat strictly a myth, or has one been produced?
6/11/2005 1:44:29 AM EDT
[#1]
www.rockriverarms.com

Believe you'll find what you're after there
6/11/2005 2:10:10 AM EDT
[#2]
For a scope?  Good luck.  
6/11/2005 2:40:13 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
www.rockriverarms.com

Believe you'll find what you're after there



The UTE-2 is exactly what you described, but it would not be for many since it would potentially limit your options later. Perhaps a substantial rear BUIS would provide the results you describe.

I believe LMT makes a big strong rear BUIS that would in effect fill that role, but would be 'removable' when your new ACOG arrived or when you really needed a carry handle

In short, the removable option would not limit you like a UTE-2 styled upper potentially could.

LMT rear BUIS



and many more substantial rear BUIS options
6/11/2005 6:21:54 AM EDT
[#4]
"UTE-2, due out late summer 2005"...arrgh!
6/12/2005 7:54:23 AM EDT
[#5]
DPMS Standalone rear sight:

www.dpmsinc.com



Rock River Arms rear sight / rail thingy for flattop receivers:



6/12/2005 9:01:51 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Pondering choise of upper reciever for KISS rifle:

#1) C-7

#2) A-2

#3) Flattop w/ fixed rear buis


*****

What would be neat would be an upper with a fixed rear sight built in to the reciver forging...but with no carry handle; instead, some rail up front. Stronger than a removable "fixed" (non-folding) rear BUIS, while still retaining the option of slapping on a scope with proper optical axis clearance.

Is this beat strictly a myth, or has one been produced?



A scope implies magnification.  You cant use one with a fixed rear.  There is no need for anything stronger than a Larue rear sight on a flat top.  What would you possibly gain?  I can think of nothing.
6/12/2005 6:59:35 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

A scope implies magnification.  You cant use one with a fixed rear.  There is no need for anything stronger than a Larue rear sight on a flat top.  What would you possibly gain?  I can think of nothing.



+1, and a mutant A2 / flattop setup isn't any more reliable than a CCH / LMT rear.  I've got one LaRue fixed BUIS and a Troy flipper on the way, covers all bases for me...
6/12/2005 7:51:58 PM EDT
[#8]
You know what? I think you guys are right.

This Quest is over just as it got started.

So, its a choise of A-1 or flattop w/fixed BUIS.

I have two other flattops w/optics.
6/12/2005 8:00:39 PM EDT
[#9]
Personally I like the A1 idea, especially since you are a stocked A3 user.  My biggest problem with doing an A1 is the fear that the barrel will shoot well and I'd like to use with <blank>.  Fill in the blank with ML2, Eothingy, ACOG, Loopy, etc...
6/13/2005 7:23:44 AM EDT
[#10]
If you are going with an A1/C7 upper I would highly recommend that you assemble the rear sight with an A2 aperture.  Also, you may want to substitute the windage drum with a Rapidex Windage Knob.  This knob is easy to use, no tools to adjust, and is 1/2 MOA.

At the same time, replace the round front sight post with an A2 square post.  It gives a sharper image, especially in some light conditions where light is coming from one side.
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