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Posted: 10/13/2004 4:27:04 PM EDT
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I'm considering what stock to get for an M4gery type gun. From what I can gather so far, either a standard collapsible stock from Colt or Bushmaster, or Magpul's Modstock, or Vltor are all good choices in general - could someone do a 30 second rundown of the tradeoffs involved? (e.g. StockX is lighter, StockY gives better cheekweld, StockZ is the most reliable..)? |
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Well from what I've seen, the Colt is much better than the current BM stock. I saw a brand new BM stock on a NoBan M4 and it was horrible. I've seen better stocks from Tapco. These seem to be the lightest. The VLTOR looks to be well made and everyone who has one seems to love them. The one I saw at a gunshow the other day seemed really tight on the buffer tube, so tight that it was annoying to try to open and close. I don't know if that goes from all of them or what. The battery tubes are neat, and seem to improve cheek weld, since they increase the surface your cheek has to rest on. This was heavier than the Colt and BM stocks. The Magpul is in my opinion the best. This stock is also the heaviest. It has the most positions of adjustment, and at the longest position, is longer than an A2. It also gives you a consistent cheek weld regardless of the position (if your cheek weld is towards the front/nose to charge handle). While I love this stock, it's not as straight forward to install like the above stocks. It can be quite frustrating if you don't have instructions that advise you about how to get the shims exactly right, and may require a few beers and a break before continuing  , or maybe that's just me. Once it's on though, it's worth it. The stock you get will depend on your needs/desires/price range, however. |
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Well, I was leaning towards Vltor to begin with, mostly because I'm going to be sticking an EOtech on it and it would be nice to be able to stuff some spare batteries in the stock. I am trying to stay lightweight where I can though. Is the weight jump going from plain Colt to a Vltor going to be something noticeable? Couldn't find a specsheet or anything that gives any numbers to go off of. Of course, now that I know that the Magpul comes with a free excuse to get drunk while working in the garage, I may have to give that route some careful consideration as well 
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| I just got 2 new bushmaster stocks and I like them but not as well versed in stocks as some of the other guys here. but it has 6 stop points and looks goodhug.gif |
| Overall, I prefer the Magpul. To me, it has the best cheekweld, and is consistent no matter what position the stock is in. With the future add-ons, it will also be the most versatile. It is also the most solid collapsible stock I have ever tried. The Crane would be second on my list and the Vltor would be a close third after that. |
I've heard they can be a bixxx to install. |
I cant believe it took that long for someone to post that link. ITs not a 30 second run down, but after reading that, you will have all the info you could want on all of your choices. Short of getting a chance to try each one, reading that thread is the next best thing you can do to make your decision. |
Anyone tried the LMT SOPMOD stock (is this the Crane stock referred to above)? (from G&R Tactical's website) It's pricy (about $250) but looks pretty solid. I can't get used to the look of the Magpul stock either... EDITED: OK, just caught up with that other thread and figured out the LMT stock. I really like the look of that one - I'll have to replace my Bushmaster tube - just have to decide if it's worth the money... Dave |
Can you tell me where you bought yours? Right now the best price I can find is at Operation Parts at $236.55 for the complete kit. Seems like a good deal - just want to make sure I'm not missing out on a better one. This definitely sounds like the stock I need. Dave |
I was at the Berea, OH show yesterday scoping out Kalashnikovs, 6.8mm uppers and sliding stocks. Plenty of Kalashnikovs at reasonable prices, no 6.8mm uppers at all, and I learned something about sliding AR stocks I never realized before. ALL of the ones I looked at had some degree of rotational movement around the buffer tube. I didn't find any of them acceptable. Of course I come from the shooting jacket, glove and cuff sling experience, but still, the amount of movement was amazing to me. I didn't see any stocks much above $80. Are the really expensive ones $200+ that much better? On a positive note, I did see one of those fixed stocks that vaguely resembles the FAL folder. It was an entry style, and hence was way too short for normal use, but I know they make normal length ones. I was impressed by the stability and apparent quality. I forget the mfg. name right now, but I was very impressed. My experience has led me to give up on a folder and possibly switch to one of the fixed metal tubulars. |
Only if your are an idiot. It was the easiest thing to install on my rifle with the exception of the KAC 2 stage trigger. You used to have to sand down a shim to get it to fit your lower... now they have different sized shims you stack in various thicknesses to get the right timing on the tube. Very easy to install if you use the instructions. If you had the experimental "sand a shim" unit or did not read the directions it could be difficult. |
Just got my LMT stock in the mail today, although with a DD single point sling mount and PRI military latch. Only problem is I forgot that I needed a buffer and spring to go with the stock... Those are on the way in a separate order. Looking forward to trying out this stock - I'm not all that happy with the look / quality of the Bushmaster stock on my new rifle. Thanks for the advice, guys, Dave |
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Just picked up an ACE SOCOM stock, used off the EE. VERY pleased with it. Took just minutes to replace the factory A2 stock, and the lock up is rock solid. 5 positions, with the longest about A1 length, and my favorite is well within the limits of travel. (Due to a short neck, I prefer a shorter position.) Cheek weld is the same, no matter the position, due to the short design of the sliding piece. The foam pad (replacable) makes a larger more comfortable surface for the cheek. (AND no problems with grabbing my beard, unlike some other collapsable stocks. No problems grasping the pistol grip with the stock fully collapsed, unlike the Magpul, with the locking latch interfering. All in all, I'm pleased, and this stock on this lower will be used with three different uppers. Colt Government Carbine Colt A2 20 inch Government Colt Competition HBAR. When all modification are complete, I'll have in effect, three rifles with the same trigger pull, and capable of being adjusted to any situation. (ALL uppers are small pivot, and the lower has push pin pivot. Can you say "Quick Change?) Life is good.   Lonny |
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