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2/25/2004 3:52:36 PM EDT
Guys, at some time in the recent past, I swear I remember seeing a standard looking lower that was made of some sort of non metalic composite, but I can't seem to find any referance to it on the web. It is (was) not the Cav Arms model, it looked just like a regular aluminum lower, but was made of some space age light weight "stuff". I could have cared less at the time, but now want one for a project, any leads would be appreciated greatly, thanks!
Chris
2/25/2004 8:06:33 PM EDT
[#1]
Carbon aramid composite,  there's also some sort of nylon injected composite as well.

Hesse Arms was putting their name on them,  and Bushmaster has a synthetic lower & upper receiver rifle,  very lightweight and I believe Bushy's synthetic started out as an Olympic Arms or some other manufacturer?  

I'd be weary of the wear and tear on the pin holes "wearing" out on these synthetics,  probably wouldn't happen though as I haven't heard of this happening with Calvary Arms lowers.
2/25/2004 8:07:49 PM EDT
[#2]
So far as I know, only Vulcan Arms (formerly Hesse) makes one you can buy as just a receiver.  Bushmaster makes the Carbon 15, but for now, you can't buy stand alone receivers.  You'll have to go with Vulcan.

Just to warn you, Vulcan/Hesse doesn't have a good reputation.  The only things they produce that don't have a half bad reputation are their AK receivers and the Kevlar lowers/uppers.  I've been tempted to build on one myself.
2/26/2004 1:58:27 AM EDT
[#3]
Bushmaster had standard(ish) AR15 upper and lower recievers at SHOT.  These are not Carbon 15 components.
3/6/2004 8:11:51 AM EDT
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Bushmaster had standard(ish) AR15 upper and lower recievers at SHOT.  These are not Carbon 15 components.
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Does anybody have more info on the Bushmaster synthetic upper and/or lower receivers?  I checked the Bushmaster 2004 on-line catalog and do not see any listed.  Devl, what was "unstandard" about the ones you saw?
3/6/2004 8:51:46 PM EDT
[#5]
go here [url]www.bushmaster.com[/url]

have bushmaster send you a free printed catalog. It mentions the carbon fiber recievers.
3/7/2004 8:13:52 AM EDT
[#6]
M understanding from the Industry Forums is that Bushmaster is only offering their synthetic lower to Law Enforcement at this time and has not plans on selling these to the public. I would be interested in experimenting with an Aramid lower if I could obtain one locally. I understand  Vulcan subcontracts these out and the quality is better. Most of their stuff is junk, but I already have a "few" AR's, so I would'nt mind experimenting.
3/7/2004 12:20:08 PM EDT
[#7]
I will find a pic and link it here.
3/7/2004 12:22:32 PM EDT
[#8]
from bushmasters 2004 catalog V.1, inside page of the front cover.

"Previews of "Coming Attractions" from Bushmaster..."

The technology inherent in Bushmaster's exciting new Carbon 15 rifles and Pistols allows us to work towards develpoing "hybrids" between traditional AR15/M16 designs and lightweight Carbon Fiber components. The prototype C15M4 above-for LE and Military applications- is the first of these hybrids. [red][b]Watch for further developments from BUSHMASTER...[/red][/b]
3/7/2004 12:24:30 PM EDT
[#9]
[img]http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/SS04/BM-01.jpg[/img]

This is SMGlees's pic.
3/7/2004 2:27:39 PM EDT
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That one is the 16" Superlight Carbon 15 upper & lower 3rd burst for L.E Purchase. It weighs 5 lbs. We've had huge requests for that application in all barrel lengths, and it will be offered in LE only at this point.

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More information of Bushmaster's Synthetic lower, hope they offer it to the public, soon!
3/8/2004 3:56:59 PM EDT
[#11]
So you cant buy the Carbon 15 upper and lower recievers and mount standard AR parts to them?  That sucks!!!
3/8/2004 4:03:40 PM EDT
[#12]
[img]http://vulcanarms.com/AV15-carbonlower-LR.JPG[/img]

$80 for the aramid lower!

[img]http://vulcanarms.com/AV15-carobonupper-LR.JPG[/img]

$80 for the upper!

Hell I may just give this a shot its so cheap.  If it wont work I can just get a regular upper or lower and only be out a tiny bit of cash.  Also someone on this forum built a rifle from an aramid Hesse receiver and has had no problems.  In fact I have not heard a single complaint about the aramid receivers.  Can anyone point me out to a complaint somewhere?
3/8/2004 4:24:50 PM EDT
[#13]
where can you get the Vulcan lowers for $80?
3/8/2004 4:55:06 PM EDT
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where can you get the Vulcan lowers for $80?
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Really! I want in on that action.

Bob
3/8/2004 9:27:56 PM EDT
[#15]
Its on their website.

[url]http://vulcanarms.com/Prices.htm[/url]


AV15-200 lower receiver, carbon/aramid $80
3/9/2004 1:49:55 AM EDT
[#16]
Yep, my lower is already on the way to my FFL.
Chris
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