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Posted: 1/31/2004 11:49:19 AM EDT
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Hi, Does anyone know if anyone makes a plug (Rubber/Plastic) to plug the hole in the upper for the forward assist. I was wanting one of these but can't find one Thanks G-Man 
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Quoted: ... Why not buy an A1 upper, Jethro? Because the A1 uppers still have foward asists (that's why they are A1 and not M16s...). He's got a choice of an M16 upper, SP1 upper (same as M16 with a different size front pivot hole - converter will be needed), or one of those 'low pro' flattop uppers from DPMS. BTW Armson-OEG you'll only save 0.2 lbs going from an M16A1 upper to the M16 upper (0.2 lbs is about 3oz). You'll save a bit less as you'll still have the extra aluminum for the foward assist housing. |
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Quoted: I use the forward assist constantly. Im sorry your having problem's with your AR Me Too! It's nice for chamber checks Chamber checks, please explain im in the dark on that. markm, I have my reasons for not wanting the FA and i don't think juvenile remarks were warranted. Someone else on the board see's things as i do and gave me a suggestion to plug it as he had done. I used the FA once as intended 18 years ago, and will never use it again. I was hoping to find an LMG upper like my others i have (see Pic) but they are rather rare and hard to find now. Yes my mistake on the weight. but every 1/4 lb. helps :) and your correct on the FA AL housing adds but what am i to do when no one Other than Colt makes em/made em. Thanks for the courtious(SP) answers [img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/pea127592567ce638d6d56d082a1fb96f/f9bc515e.jpg[/img] |
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Quoted: Me Too! It's nice for chamber checks Chamber checks, please explain im in the dark on that. i'm assuming he's referring to pulling the charging handle back slightly to verify that there is a round in the chamber. upon doing so you would use the forward assist to ensure that the bolt locks firmly into the locking lugs, as there is not enough spring tension in 1/2" of travel to do so reliably. kind of like the "press check" on a 1911. the safety selector is another 2-3 oz piece you could do without...i mean, true "gun safety" is not mechanical, it is keeping your finger off the trigger and keeping the gun pointed in a safe direction at all times.... right? i actually probably use the forward assist more than i use the safety (and remember, "i never use the damn thing"). PS- i'm not necessarily being sarcastic, but the above is not meant to condone removing the safety from your firearm... |
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How about using a 9mm Upper Receiver? The case deflector is bigger (dremel tool time? [;)]) but there is no foward assist. You can get it with an A2 carry handle or flattop. [url]http://www.rockriverarms.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=9MM0052AASY&storeid=1&image=9rcvrs.gif&CFID=136837&CFTOKEN=39863522&jsessionid=06303281701075827824012[/url] [img]http://www.rockriverarms.com/images/9rcvrs.gif[/img] |
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Quoted: How about using a 9mm Upper Receiver? The case deflector is bigger (dremel tool time? [;)]) but there is no foward assist. Actually, isnt it normally a plastic deflector thats attached to the ejection port cover pin? You could remove both and replace them with a standard port cover I would think. |
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Does anybody else notice something pecuilar(rubs eyes, looks again) about the pic of the reciever that Armson posted?[>:/] A2 upper with NO forward assist housing but an(looks drawn on) outline of where the Forward assist housing should be???(closes eyes for 5 seconds, reopens) Yup, still there. What gives???? As for chamber checks: S.P.O.R.T.S. Slap,pull,observe,release,Tap(Forward Assist),Shoot. |
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Quoted: Actually, isnt it normally a plastic deflector thats attached to the ejection port cover pin? You could remove both and replace them with a standard port cover I would think. That would be even better! I have no experience with them - just remembered they had no F/A. Does anybody else notice something pecuilar(rubs eyes, looks again) about the pic of the reciever that Armson posted IB - that is a Colt LMG upper. They are fairly rare and I've not seen one for 10 years. I seem to recall right after the ban some company bought all Colt had to produce 'custom' LMG type uppers for pre-ban AR-15s (I guess at the time they didn't figure you could sell them with some mods to the post-ban crowd). Probably all gone now. IIRC Diamaco (SP? - the Canadian AR manufacturer) still produces these uppers (the Danes just bought a bunch of Colt type LMGs from them). FYI Colt's CAR (Colt Automatic Rifle - the LMG replacement) has a flattop upper with no foward assist. If you want one of those you might want to contact Ken at Specialized Armament Warehouse and see if he has some (they are not listed on his website - but ya never know). Photo of the CAR/Flattop LMG[url]http://www.colt.com/mil/downloads/Colt_Automatic_Rifle_02.jpg[/url] [i][red]Edited to change from photo to a link as the photo is quite large[/i][/red] Specs: [url]http://www.colt.com/mil/downloads/CAR_Specs.pdf[/url] |
| Forest, Thanks you much for the links. I new you guys here could help find these things. My eyes opened just for a sec. when i seen the RRA uppers. but dropped when i saw 9mm. Thanks for all the info but i can't afford a expensive upper, mabe at a later date. BTW I got my LMG uppers in mid 90s they were take offs from the Canadian LMGs open bolts. that LMG flat top looks nice. |
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OEG, Don't let the 9mm moniker stop ya. If you can remove the deflectors as Lump indicated (and Lumpy is rarely wrong - but he'll learn EO Techs are superior ) they will take a standard barrel & bolt carrier. Ummm, wait a minute. A true 9mm upper won't have the gas tube hole in the upper reciever, so while it might fit the bolt carrier, it wouldn't work. Just FYI so you can ask before ordering. |
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Lumpy, Probably true, but there's more to it then just drilling the hole. You would have to remove material from the inside of the reciever as well. Then, of course, you would need to reanodize the whole thing. I'm sure you're right, it could be done, but it seems like a lot of time and/or expense just for the A2 rear sight, since slick side M16 uppers are still around. |
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