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Posted: 1/17/2003 11:56:48 AM EDT
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i asked this quesation in another guys post and i din't want to jack his thread so i'm posting it here. i'm stuck between getting a bushmaster complete dissy upper or a complete dpms dissy upper. the dpms is 135 dollars cheaper and i am on a VERY tight budget so it is very tempting. i also know that ther are soemreal benefits to having chrome lined uppers. WHICH ONE?? if it helps i will be using this ar for just plinking, no home defense (got a mossberg for that) or target matches. i'll probably use surplus ammo too. |
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I live less than 5 miles from Bushmaster's HQ. I'd go Bushmaster. Besides, I don't know how to spell DPMS. Chrome chrome chrome. Spend the extra few bucks and 5 years from now, you'll have a great barrel, and you'll have forgotten about the extra money you spent. That logic worked on my 20+ firearms! Or, get the other brand, although I'm sure it's good too, and wish you had a Bushmaster. How's that? |
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Quoted: I've got the DPMS...no problems reliability-wise, and accuracy is excellent. I'd reccommend them, and with chrome, they use a chrome moly barrel anyways. Chrome-lined and Chrome-moly are two different things. Chrome-moly is just a fancy word for plain steel. You get no corrosion resistance there. Bradd |
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[b]chwi548[/b]...a couple of points to ponder: He said the rifle will be used mostly for plinking not shooting target matches. Most likely he will shoot surplus ammo and alot of it. Chrome-lining really shines here because it is so low maintenance. Most people will never see the accuracy difference between Chrome-moly and Chrome-lined barrels, especially at short to medium ranges. Unless he plans to shoot high power matches and use optics, Chrome-moly offers no real advantage. Bradd |
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Been asking myself the same question Dav. To me it boils down to the chrome. I typically shoot two styles target or plinking. I chew up a lot of ammo plinking but not target. So for a plinker, I would definately lean Bush. On the other hand, I've never worn a rifle out yet. Of course, if I could keep from switching and buying more I might. I guess I'm saying it's a tough decision and yours to make based on what you want the rifle to withstand compared to how much you want to spend. |
| I guess I misread the post to say that he would use it for possible matches. Either way, I'm sure he plans to take care of his rifle, and the arguement usually between the DPMS model and Bushmaster model deals with the gas block placement. Going on my experiences, the DPMS has been just fine for any of my uses, but your opinion or experiences may vary. |
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thanks for the input, i had been leaning towards the bushmaster but lately my funds have been making me think about the dpms. this will be my first AR and i'm anxious to get my complete lower that i have now shooting. i'll probably bite the bullet and get the BM. |
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Ok, got to get this off my chest. All carbon steel barrels are chrome-moly. Chrome-moly is a 41XX series steel (4140,4130,4150 etc.) This a very durable heat treatable alloy that has been used for barrels and receivers for a very long time. If a barrle is chrome lined then it is a barrel made of 41XX steel that has had the bore and chamber chrome plated. That being said, for civilian use I cannot see an advantage of $135 for a chrome lined barrel. I can clean an awfull lot for $135 and I don't think I will ever shoot enough ammo to wear out a barrel. Consider this, I have an M1 carbine with well over 15,000 rounds through it and it still shoots just fine. If you don't plan to clean your rifle but once in a blue moon or shoot corrosive ammo then a chrome lined barrel my be for you. PS- stainless steel also is plain steel with chromium added to it but in much larger quantities and usually accompanied with a bit of nickel. |
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I think you would be well server by either brand. I bought a DPMS Deluxe 24 for varmint use (eventually) and so far it has been great. As long as you clean regularyly chrome or not shouldn't matter. But although I really like DPMS and all their varieties I do think Bushmaster needs some show of support. If $135 is that much of a concern how are you going to afford accessories or even ammo to shoot? |
| I have Bushy, DPMS, and Oly uppers. The quality is the same on all of them, from what I have seen. I have an Oly and a Bushy dissipator upper. I am selling my Oly, but only because it is stainless. I have a registered lightning link and stainless barrels will warp with heavy FA fire. I have purchased alot of Bushy uppers because you want pure mill spec for full-auto, but for semi, non chrome lined will be fine. Get the DPMS or the Bushy, both are fine. If you do get the DPMS, I have had great luck with CMMG. |
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