Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel
Member Login
Posted: 12/14/2002 5:24:29 PM EDT
Has anybody here actually handled or built up a rifle that uses a non-aluminum lower? I am seeing them advertised more and more (JoeKen Firearms, etc.) but have yet to hear any testimonials. If you have, I'd like to hear the good, the bad, and the ugly.
-Hobbit
Link Posted: 12/14/2002 5:29:32 PM EDT
Cav Arms makes a great one out of polymer. Hesse made a bad one before they went belly up. Pro Ord makes an AR like rifle that can be great if you are lucky, or can be a prepetual headache.
Link Posted: 12/14/2002 5:44:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2002 6:02:10 PM EDT by jtw2]
I love my Cav Arms. It' bright yellow and has a sticker that says "DeWalt" on the side. Nice and light. The pistol grip takes little getting used to as it's a bit different, but not that much. I would highly recommend picking one up. They're inexpensive as well. [img]photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=411[/img]
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 4:03:15 AM EDT
Is that a pre-ban or post-ban DeWalt sticker? Nice touch. Anyone else? -Hobbit
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 4:37:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/15/2002 4:38:29 AM EDT by WSAR15]
Carbon Fiber has been used extensively as a substitute to metal. I think it is a good material and would not be surprised to see further use in lowers. It makes them lighter as well. When did Hesse go belly up?
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 4:57:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/15/2002 4:58:25 AM EDT by AR15forfun]
>GLOCKshooter 12/14/2002 9:29:32 PM Cav Arms makes a great one out of polymer. Hesse made a bad one before they went belly up. <<< Glock, I have a Hesse Kevlar lower and know a few other folks that have them. How were they bad? How long did you have yours before it went "bad"? Do you have a URL on this, or was it from personal experience? I have not heard of one single failure of a Hesse Kevlar lower. Some here have said it was the ONLY thing that Hesse nade that was a quality product, because they did not actually make them. It was the easiest lower to build that I have ever assembled. Bob Edited to ad: That Cavarms "Dewalt" is very nice!
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 7:15:35 AM EDT
Who made the Kevlar lowers for Hesse?
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 7:48:15 AM EDT
I'd like to know that myself as I built one too. It was probably one of the best builds I've ever done & would do it again.
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 1:04:44 PM EDT
No, I did not buy one because of the negative feeback from others I read when I was first considering trying to build an AR pistol, which has to come in under 50oz. As I do not have personal experience with it and you do, I will defer. Am I incorrect that Hesse went out of business also?
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 1:31:25 PM EDT
Glockshooter, I have heard the rumors as well. Shortly after the rumors started floating around I went to their website and they were selling off "excess" equipment. However, since I have not needed another lower, I haven't contacted them. I have a friend that has a few of the uppers for sale that are Kevlar. I haven't made that jump yet. Obviously there is more stress on the upper than the lower and I'm not comfortable with that just yet. [:)] Bob
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 6:46:44 AM EDT
Olympic makes a lower out of titanium and DPMS sell a stainless steel lower as well.
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 3:46:20 PM EDT
I wouldn't be surprised if FN or Colt went that route. After all, H&K and others have.
Top Top