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IA, USA
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Posted: 2/8/2021 8:44:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: XDm525Forty]
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 This is the only one I have finished at this point. Brownells slickside upper, 12.7" barrel, faux moderator/grenade ring, chrome BCG w/o FA serrations. Pin and weld on the barrel/moderator by JT. Nodak grey charging handle. Fulton Armory "607" handguards and sight components. It will be going on a Brownells partial fence lower with AR15sport LPK, Brownells 2-position buffer tube, and Tony's Customs aluminum stock. I have most, if not all, of the parts for a 733-ish C7 upper w/11.5", and 723-ish A2 upper w/14.5". Have to find time to send the 14.5 off to JT, and it's gonna have to get a lot damn warmer in my garage before I try to put the 11.5 together... 
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Posted: 2/8/2021 9:25:48 PM EDT
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That’s gonna be a cool build.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/9/2021 1:10:48 PM EDT
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Got the rings back on, and decided against cutting for now so I had it P/W. Dropped it off yesterday afternoon, picked up this AM.
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Posted: 2/9/2021 6:37:15 PM EDT
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Finished my second AR build with some crucial help from HDLS last weekend, and it's a carry handle build. In its CA configuration, this will be my go-to for home defense, truck use, etc. within CA.
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IA, USA
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Posted: 2/9/2021 10:34:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: XDm525Forty]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samuse: Who is JNT? I got a little confused... I meant John Thomas at Retro Arms work, his username is "JNTsomething," but he signs his posts JT, so I used the wrong initials... |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/10/2021 7:49:43 PM EDT
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 20210210_182131 by brandon hobock, on Flickr" />Got the ADCO NT4 spacer on, very nice. Will be receiving a pin and weld this weekend me thinks. Depends on if I take the jeep out, IDK. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 1:09:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Jcrich33]
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 Yes. That is a Fender strap on my Les Paul... |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/13/2021 8:47:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jcrich33: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/407215/F4787134-DB6F-4E77-AF99-22BC04CB2E6C-1819814.jpg Yes. That is a Fender strap on my Les Paul... Put one on the rifle 
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NV, USA
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Posted: 2/13/2021 6:50:15 PM EDT
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  Fresh Paint |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 4:51:32 PM EDT
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This is the current stage of her evolution. As soon as my tube gets back from d.wilson, I'll post her final form.
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Posted: 2/15/2021 5:13:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brandonbeezy: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50931024622_44995a7141_k.jpg20210210_182131 by brandon hobock, on Flickr" target="_blank">https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50931024622_44995a7141_k.jpg20210210_182131 by brandon hobock, on Flickr Got the ADCO NT4 spacer on, very nice. Will be receiving a pin and weld this weekend me thinks. Depends on if I take the jeep out, IDK. I would use shims instead of a crush washer with that spacer. Can’t see having much threads left with that setup. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 5:17:00 PM EDT
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2021 4:20:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Brandonbeezy]
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 20210216_145608 by brandon hobock, on Flickr" />Got the GG&G mount, IMO it looks so much better now. Just waiting on onyx to ship my original A1 grip and then time for a 9000sc and shes done! |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2021 5:21:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brandonbeezy: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50950935587_1e2dbf0003_k.jpg20210216_145608 by brandon hobock, on Flickr" target="_blank">https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50950935587_1e2dbf0003_k.jpg20210216_145608 by brandon hobock, on Flickr Got the GG&G mount, IMO it looks so much better now. Just waiting on onyx to ship my original A1 grip and then time for a 9000sc and shes done!  loves that shit
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2021 5:36:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FONTY: I would use shims instead of a crush washer with that spacer. Can’t see having much threads left with that setup. I've seen it done both ways, and i shared your concern until i started test fitting. Theres roughly .250 worth of threads in current set up, possibly more due to the 1/4ish turn to level out the flash hider. This barely made it over 16in. I believe shims would be less than 16in. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2021 5:37:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: loves that shitThanks bro, this seems to be the one that i will 100% be happy with |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 5:57:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brandonbeezy: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50950935587_1e2dbf0003_k.jpg20210216_145608 by brandon hobock, on Flickr" target="_blank">https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50950935587_1e2dbf0003_k.jpg20210216_145608 by brandon hobock, on Flickr Got the GG&G mount, IMO it looks so much better now. Just waiting on onyx to ship my original A1 grip and then time for a 9000sc and shes done! That's a fine-looking carbine, there. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2021 6:12:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MVolkJ: That's a fine-looking carbine, there. Thanks, its been a fun build, and honestly the best shooter i have |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2021 6:36:01 PM EDT
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I think the A1/C7/723/727 with a KAC RIS/RAS is the handiest little carbine combination. Slap an Aimpoint 3/5/7/9000 or even a CompX or PRO on top and it's golden. Not the prettiest or most Gucci, but it's usefulness shines through.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2021 7:22:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: I think the A1/C7/723/727 with a KAC RIS/RAS is the handiest little carbine combination. Slap an Aimpoint 3/5/7/9000 or even a CompX or PRO on top and it's golden. Not the prettiest or most Gucci, but it's usefulness shines through. My favorite thing is how light it is |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2021 11:52:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spatten: https://i.imgur.com/dqrLrf5.jpg https://i.imgur.com/juYKCwh.jpg Fresh Paint @Spatten let's see more of this thing! |
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Posted: 2/17/2021 7:28:46 AM EDT
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I think a carry handle bug bit me.
Really want to build a mid-length carry-handle upper, dream is carry handle upper with deflector and no forward assist. |
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Posted: 2/17/2021 11:26:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: I think a carry handle bug bit me. Really want to build a mid-length carry-handle upper, dream is carry handle upper with deflector and no forward assist. I built an A1 style middie years ago, it's a hoot and 100% on function/accuracy.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/17/2021 3:18:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: Finished my second AR build with some crucial help from HDLS last weekend, and it's a carry handle build. In its CA configuration, this will be my go-to for home defense, truck use, etc. within CA. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50927368642_408fc20f1b_b.jpg Very nice, simple little carbine. |
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Posted: 2/17/2021 3:44:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By licoricenoose: https://i.imgur.com/lJQHvd7.jpg Great looking old school carbine!  BTW, how high is the Aimpoint when mounted on the carry handle like that? Is it quite bit higher the 1.93" flat top mounts? |
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Posted: 2/17/2021 5:36:24 PM EDT
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2021 8:38:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/17/2021 10:59:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fordtough25: I built an A1 style middie years ago, it's a hoot and 100% on function/accuracy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/269204/paint1_jpg-1829167.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fordtough25: Originally Posted By Plumber576: I think a carry handle bug bit me. Really want to build a mid-length carry-handle upper, dream is carry handle upper with deflector and no forward assist. I built an A1 style middie years ago, it's a hoot and 100% on function/accuracy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/269204/paint1_jpg-1829167.JPG Very nice. Thanks for sharing. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2021 11:03:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Spatten]
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Quote History@Dyzatr that is awesome. Love it. More pics of mine:   Colt M4 Carbine Lower ALG Trigger EE Upper Daniel Defense 10.3 Barrel Forward Controls 63 Keymo Silencerco Saker (converted to Keymo) Brownells stock and grip BCM QRF Rail Radian LT Charging Handle Modlite with Unity Hot Button Edgar Sherman Sling Junk Photo Quality |
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Posted: 2/17/2021 11:44:39 PM EDT
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My M16A2 clone from my time in the army. I did put a Larue MBT trigger in it since the milspec trigger sucks.
 Attached FileM4 clone with 14.5" .gov profile bbl with pin and weld extended flash hider.  Attached FileI also have a "Heat" model 733 clone upper for my SBR, but it is packed up for my move and I am too lazy to dig it out. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2021 1:22:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrucksAndGuns: My M16A2 clone from my time in the army. I did put a Larue MBT trigger in it since the milspec trigger sucks. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/516465/PXL_20210218_033304794_jpg-1830106.JPG M4 clone with 14.5" .gov profile bbl with pin and weld extended flash hider. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/516465/PXL_20210218_033437733_jpg-1830108.JPG I also have a "Heat" model 733 clone upper for my SBR, but it is packed up for my move and I am too lazy to dig it out. Love the simple rifles bro! |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2021 1:23:43 PM EDT
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I would like to take the time to announce that i purchased an aimpoint 9000sc AND IM FREAKING STOKED
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2021 3:44:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brandonbeezy: I would like to take the time to announce that i purchased an aimpoint 9000sc AND IM FREAKING STOKED Hell yeah! I've been wanting to get one for a second OGS instead of another 5000 |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2021 3:54:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Hell yeah! I've been wanting to get one for a second OGS instead of another 5000 The modern specs are just hard to overlook, especially when it lools so similar to a 5000 Theres a Canadian member on the bhd thread running one, thats what sold me because i didn't even know until I read that it was a 9000sc. |
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Posted: 2/21/2021 3:57:09 PM EDT
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2021 5:15:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Exorpmtech: https://i.imgur.com/yd9PD7M.jpg I love stocks on carbines |
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Posted: 2/21/2021 5:20:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: I think a carry handle bug bit me. Really want to build a mid-length carry-handle upper, dream is carry handle upper with deflector and no forward assist. No one has ever made one with A1 style sights that I know of. However, Colt did make some receivers with A2 sights with the case deflector and no forward-assist a long time ago for their AR-15 SAW (I forget what it's actually called), which being open-bolt, did not require a FA. I don't think anyone else has ever made such a thing. I'd go for it if someone made it, with either type of sights. They'd be my go-to for non-clone carry handle builds. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2021 5:54:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: No one has ever made one with A1 style sights that I know of. However, Colt did make some receivers with A2 sights with the case deflector and no forward-assist a long time ago for their AR-15 SAW (I forget what it's actually called), which being open-bolt, did not require a FA. I don't think anyone else has ever made such a thing. I'd go for it if someone made it, with either type of sights. They'd be my go-to for non-clone carry handle builds. The port firing weapon? |
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Posted: 2/21/2021 6:07:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brandonbeezy: The port firing weapon? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brandonbeezy: Originally Posted By bigstick61: No one has ever made one with A1 style sights that I know of. However, Colt did make some receivers with A2 sights with the case deflector and no forward-assist a long time ago for their AR-15 SAW (I forget what it's actually called), which being open-bolt, did not require a FA. I don't think anyone else has ever made such a thing. I'd go for it if someone made it, with either type of sights. They'd be my go-to for non-clone carry handle builds. The port firing weapon? No, this thing:  
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Posted: 2/21/2021 8:11:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Plumber576]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: No one has ever made one with A1 style sights that I know of. However, Colt did make some receivers with A2 sights with the case deflector and no forward-assist a long time ago for their AR-15 SAW (I forget what it's actually called), which being open-bolt, did not require a FA. I don't think anyone else has ever made such a thing. I'd go for it if someone made it, with either type of sights. They'd be my go-to for non-clone carry handle builds. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: Originally Posted By Plumber576: I think a carry handle bug bit me. Really want to build a mid-length carry-handle upper, dream is carry handle upper with deflector and no forward assist. No one has ever made one with A1 style sights that I know of. However, Colt did make some receivers with A2 sights with the case deflector and no forward-assist a long time ago for their AR-15 SAW (I forget what it's actually called), which being open-bolt, did not require a FA. I don't think anyone else has ever made such a thing. I'd go for it if someone made it, with either type of sights. They'd be my go-to for non-clone carry handle builds. A1 or A2 sights makes no difference to me, but I'd actually prefer the A2 sights. Realistically, based on price, I'll probably end up with a slick-side w/A1 sights and that's okay. There's an LMG upper on Gunbroker but that's too much scratch for the itch I have. Brownells has blemished slick side carry handle uppers on sale for $99 and I almost bought one but they have have wonky carry handles. These blemished lowers exhibit a slightly offset sight channel. Iron sights will install and zero, but will need slight adjustment to one side. |
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Posted: 2/21/2021 8:41:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: A1 or A2 sights makes no difference to me, but I'd actually prefer the A2 sights. Realistically, based on price, I'll probably end up with a slick-side w/A1 sights and that's okay. There's an LMG upper on Gunbroker but that's too much scratch for the itch I have. Brownells has blemished slick side carry handle uppers on sale for $99 and I almost bought one but they have have wonky carry handles. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Originally Posted By bigstick61: Originally Posted By Plumber576: I think a carry handle bug bit me. Really want to build a mid-length carry-handle upper, dream is carry handle upper with deflector and no forward assist. No one has ever made one with A1 style sights that I know of. However, Colt did make some receivers with A2 sights with the case deflector and no forward-assist a long time ago for their AR-15 SAW (I forget what it's actually called), which being open-bolt, did not require a FA. I don't think anyone else has ever made such a thing. I'd go for it if someone made it, with either type of sights. They'd be my go-to for non-clone carry handle builds. A1 or A2 sights makes no difference to me, but I'd actually prefer the A2 sights. Realistically, based on price, I'll probably end up with a slick-side w/A1 sights and that's okay. There's an LMG upper on Gunbroker but that's too much scratch for the itch I have. Brownells has blemished slick side carry handle uppers on sale for $99 and I almost bought one but they have have wonky carry handles. These blemished lowers exhibit a slightly offset sight channel. Iron sights will install and zero, but will need slight adjustment to one side. For a shorter carbine, I'd want A1, for something longer, A2. I recall seeing an older topic where folks mentioned seeing stripped uppers of this type at gun shows back in the day. I just finished a build that I posted above but will post again below which has a slickside upper. Got the upper from Fulton Armory about three months ago. The upper with the rear sight assembly installed (IIRC, the site said the rear sights were USGI/surplus) cost me $180. Theirs come in black instead of grey. Shipping was decent (I ordered a bunch of other parts from them for this build, and shipping was $15 for everything). M4 feed ramps were an option and mine looks to have been forged by Anchor Harvey. I prefer my uppers with no FA in general, whether flat top or carry handle. I'd only do a FA if it could be incorporated into the charging handle like on the later-production AI AR-10s. I'm not a fan of the big protrusion on the side. I know someone left-handed who'd love an A1 CH upper with no FA, but with a case deflector. He said when he was in the Marines they actually gave him a detachable case deflector that mounted to the carry handle. 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2021 9:39:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: A1 or A2 sights makes no difference to me, but I'd actually prefer the A2 sights. Realistically, based on price, I'll probably end up with a slick-side w/A1 sights and that's okay. There's an LMG upper on Gunbroker but that's too much scratch for the itch I have. Brownells has blemished slick side carry handle uppers on sale for $99 and I almost bought one but they have have wonky carry handles. I just ordered an A2 aperture to swap into my A1 upper. It was 9 dollars shipped |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2021 9:46:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jos51700]
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 Did the bayo mount for the truck gun pistol during the winter cold snap. |
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Posted: 2/21/2021 9:58:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: For a shorter carbine, I'd want A1, for something longer, A2. I recall seeing an older topic where folks mentioned seeing stripped uppers of this type at gun shows back in the day. I just finished a build that I posted above but will post again below which has a slickside upper. Got the upper from Fulton Armory about three months ago. The upper with the rear sight assembly installed (IIRC, the site said the rear sights were USGI/surplus) cost me $180. Theirs come in black instead of grey. Shipping was decent (I ordered a bunch of other parts from them for this build, and shipping was $15 for everything). M4 feed ramps were an option and mine looks to have been forged by Anchor Harvey. I prefer my uppers with no FA in general, whether flat top or carry handle. I'd only do a FA if it could be incorporated into the charging handle like on the later-production AI AR-10s. I'm not a fan of the big protrusion on the side. I know someone left-handed who'd love an A1 CH upper with no FA, but with a case deflector. He said when he was in the Marines they actually gave him a detachable case deflector that mounted to the carry handle. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50927368642_408fc20f1b_b.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50962123527_a68ae9b4a6_b.jpg Nice rifle. Generally the FA doesn't bug me but sometimes I get an idea in my head for a build and this idea looks better w/o a forward assist. Now that I've been hunting stripped uppers the no deflector is looking more and more attractive as well. The M4 feed ramps interest me, I'll have to reach out to Fulton Armory since I don't see any stripped uppers on their website. I'm going to have a pin and weld for this build so I was thinking I'd just find a place that can cut M4 feed ramps and do the P&W. |
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Posted: 2/21/2021 10:00:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jos51700: https://i.ibb.co/47NYJ6R/Resized-20210217-174717-1.jpg Did the bayo mount for the truck gun pistol during the winter cold snap. That's interesting. Details? |
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Posted: 2/21/2021 10:05:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Nice rifle. Generally the FA doesn't bug me but sometimes I get an idea in my head for a build and this idea looks better w/o a forward assist. Now that I've been hunting stripped uppers the no deflector is looking more and more attractive as well. The M4 feed ramps interest me, I'll have to reach out to Fulton Armory since I don't see any stripped uppers on their website. I'm going to have a pin and weld for this build so I was thinking I'd just find a place that can cut M4 feed ramps and do the P&W. Thanks. I'm eager to shoot it (once I can find some 5.56mm ammo). Finding areas to reduce weight, the aesthetics of it, and the fact that I dislike the protrusion are the main reasons I wanted to go with no-FA. The lack of a FA also makes replacing the ejection port cover much easier on a fully assembled upper. I just checked out FA's site myself. Seems like they may be sold out. They only have that upper available as a complete 20" 604/M-16 assembly. Not sure if Nodak has anything. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 2/22/2021 6:39:22 PM EDT
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@bigstick61
Since I wanted a real bayo mount, and the 'gov't' profile barrels all neck down under gas block diameter behind the fsb shoulder, I took a 14.5" heavy barrel, turned the diameter down to gas block diameter going back far enough to add a full-length-bayo mount (about 2 inches.) This barrel already had taper pins for the original FSB so I knew I didn't need the shoulder for anything. Then I cut the barrel down to 11.5" and threaded it, like stock. Then, I took a old used FSB, and amputated the bayo lug with barrel ring, off of it. The FSB mated to this barrel already had the bay lug milled off so off went the sling mount, too. I slid the new 'bayo mount' up the barrel, located it, drilled and taper-pinned it, and then reinstalled the retainer ring and handguards after cutting clearance in them for the bayonet. The lug makes it hard to get a finger in there where it's hot, anyway, and the opening is actually pretty minimal. I did have to use a full-circle handguard retainer. If that doesn't make sense, I can pop the hand guards off and take some more pics. I still need to re-park it. I'm debating using an A2 upper to make this retro build. I would like to put a sling ring somewhere up front. I might pirate one off an FAL or similar and just cock it to one side inside the FSB, I'm not sure yet. I'd want it to look 'factory'. I don't want the barrel to have any thin sections though. Gotta be rigid for maximum stab. |
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Posted: 2/22/2021 8:25:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jos51700: @bigstick61 Since I wanted a real bayo mount, and the 'gov't' profile barrels all neck down under gas block diameter behind the fsb shoulder, I took a 14.5" heavy barrel, turned the diameter down to gas block diameter going back far enough to add a full-length-bayo mount (about 2 inches.) This barrel already had taper pins for the original FSB so I knew I didn't need the shoulder for anything. Then I cut the barrel down to 11.5" and threaded it, like stock. Then, I took a old used FSB, and amputated the bayo lug with barrel ring, off of it. The FSB mated to this barrel already had the bay lug milled off so off went the sling mount, too. I slid the new 'bayo mount' up the barrel, located it, drilled and taper-pinned it, and then reinstalled the retainer ring and handguards after cutting clearance in them for the bayonet. The lug makes it hard to get a finger in there where it's hot, anyway, and the opening is actually pretty minimal. I did have to use a full-circle handguard retainer. If that doesn't make sense, I can pop the hand guards off and take some more pics. I still need to re-park it. I'm debating using an A2 upper to make this retro build. I would like to put a sling ring somewhere up front. I might pirate one off an FAL or similar and just cock it to one side inside the FSB, I'm not sure yet. I'd want it to look 'factory'. I don't want the barrel to have any thin sections though. Gotta be rigid for maximum stab. I'd be interested in a closer look, for sure. |
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Posted: 2/22/2021 9:01:28 PM EDT
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 Attached File653ish clone I just finished. First rifle I got issued from Uncle Sam after I was done with the training pipeline. Carrying handles will always have a place in my heart. Lol! |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 2/22/2021 11:01:32 PM EDT
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 Note the dual bolts on the TA31, I thought that was so trick. An early mod few knew about. An old AK brake Bushy, the brake was the first thing I took off. |
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