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Posted: 12/6/2016 11:34:16 PM EDT
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This is my first AR-15 build, she will mainly be a safe queen. I'm sure I will get shit for why am I paying for overpriced shit and I can spend this much for a better and cheaper component but all of these parts stand out to me and would look and perform amazing IMO.
Completed upper; http://imgur.com/a/aDMbQ Need to cerakote the stripped upper receiver graphite/matte black, LaRue Stealth upper left a weird colouring to it, idk if that is how the upper receiver is or the gunsmith did something, but cerakoting it should make it more of an attractive color. Need Radian Lower Receiver w/ (Proprietary Components) - waiting for release in Quarter 1, expected to be available in January KAC Micro BUIS Ordered Daniel Defense Pistol Grip Radian Charging Handle Have Aimpoint PRO AR Gold Flat Trigger Damage Industries H6 Buffer+Spring Fortis REV II Rail 14" KEYMOD Fortis Muzzle Brake 5.56 Geissele Super Gas Block LaRue Stealth Upper Receiver Magpul UBR Collapsible Stock Rainier Gas Tube Black - Intermediate Salient Arms Int. AR15 BCG Salient Arms Int. AR15 Box Fluted Barrel V Seven Titanium GI Barrel Nut |
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Originally Posted By rabbitfoot69:
Thank you for this, anyone recommend where to get a solid reliable barrel nut? Would this work; http://fortismfg.com/ar15-forits-swtich-556-rail-system-barrel-nut Here is another one that would work from BCM: http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Barrel-Nut-AR15-p/barrel%20nut%20ar15.htm |
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Looking at your parts list, the barrel you have picked out uses a specialized length gas tube - so it won't work with the one you have listed. This model from Noveske might work, but the best option would be to contact salient and have them ship the correct gas tube with the barrel.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/234178/noveske-gas-tube-intermediate-length-ar-15 ETA: Here is an intermediate tube listed in stock at Rainier: https://www.rainierarms.com/gas-tube-black I'm not sure intermediate sized tubes are truly standardized so just beware their could be problems. |
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Looking over you list I see a few things missing. The UBR doesn't come with a buffer or spring. I like the Damage Industries Enhanced springs. http://damageindustries.co/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=409&search=buffer+spring Service life on these springs is 700,000+ cycles.
I also like the their H6 buffers: http://damageindustries.co/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=394&search=h6 You will also need small springs and detents to complete your build. |
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Looking at your parts list, the barrel you have picked out uses a specialized length gas tube - so it won't work with the one you have listed. This model from Noveske might work, but the best option would be to contact salient and have them ship the correct gas tube with the barrel. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/234178/noveske-gas-tube-intermediate-length-ar-15 ETA: Here is an intermediate tube listed in stock at Rainier: https://www.rainierarms.com/gas-tube-black I'm not sure intermediate sized tubes are truly standardized so just beware their could be problems. Will this gas tube from BCM not work? http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR15-mid-length-gas-tube-p/gas-tube-mid-length.htm?CartID=1 I will use those buffers recommended. :) I emailed Radians and they said the lower recover would come with proprietary components and all I would need is a trigger if thats what you're referring to small springs and detents. Thank you so much for your advice and not bashing me for an expensive parts list. My first post but I see so many youtube comments of haters saying they can build a cheaper and more effective rifle. Lol |
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The BCM gas tube won't work, it's too short. Intermediate gas tubes are longer and aren't very common.
By springs and detents I was talking about all the other lower small parts besides the fire control group. It sounds like your lower comes with all those parts. |
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
The BCM gas tube won't work, it's too short. Intermediate gas tubes are longer and aren't very common. By springs and detents, I was talking about all the other lower small parts besides the fire control group. It sounds like your lower comes with all those parts. I went ahead and ordered the https://www.rainierarms.com/gas-tube-black intermediate! Looks classy. Hopefully, it'll fit if anything can the gunsmith trim the tube or would I run into a "too short" gas tube? Where can I get a good quality barrel nut or will it not matter? I'm afraid $10 barrel nuts won't do justice. o.O |
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Originally Posted By TechOps:
Prepare to drop some serious coin... choose your optic. Originally Posted By TechOps:
Prepare to drop some serious coin... choose your optic. I went with the aimpoint PRO, I think I bought the wrong one since I want something more lightweight and versatile, this one seems a little heavy..is it the aimpoint T2 thats popular? Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Barrel nuts are hard to make fancy. I would just get the BCM. Great quality product. V7 might make something fancier. They do a lot of really nice lightweight specialty parts. https://www.rainierarms.com/catalogsearch/result/?attr=0&q=v7+barrel+nut Which one? |
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Have you looked at the Franklin Binary triggers?
Here is a video of mine.  Binary trigger clips |
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Have you looked at the Franklin Binary triggers? Here is a video of mine.  OAe1dqg1yegUh what the flip, I don't think I would get cleared for something like that. 
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Originally Posted By rabbitfoot69:
I went with the aimpoint PRO, I think I bought the wrong one since I want something more lightweight and versatile, this one seems a little heavy..is it the aimpoint T2 thats popular? https://www.rainierarms.com/catalogsearch/result/?attr=0&q=v7+barrel+nut Which one? |
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
This one https://www.rainierarms.com/v7-titanium-gi-barrel-nut-ion-bond-black-9289 Ordered. 
I was going to consider the binary trigger but then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVJHVqgXRVI Too many jams 
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Originally Posted By rabbitfoot69:
Uh what the flip, I don't think I would get cleared for something like that. The binary triggers are super fun. Very easy to hit 600 rounds per minute. They're three position designs. Safe, regular semi and binary. Totally legal and no NFA paperwork required. Works like a standard trigger and then you flip it into the third position for a round on pull and a second round on release. Franklin Armory builds them and they sell for $430. Seemed like it would be a good fit for an all out build like yours. |
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
The binary triggers are super fun. Very easy to hit 600 rounds per minute. They're three position designs. Safe, regular semi and binary. Totally legal and no NFA paperwork required. Works like a standard trigger and then you flip it into the third position for a round on pull and a second round on release. Franklin Armory builds them and they sell for $430. Seemed like it would be a good fit for an all out build like yours. I appreciate it but I'm going to stick to a standard semi-auto trigger! I appreciate your help though! Couldn't completed my build without you, I purchased most of the components you recommended. I'm waiting for my paycheck next Friday to buy the big boy gear! I just need to know how to purchase the iron sights now, considering magpul vs kac. Idk how the sets work for kac since they're all standalone, do I get the micro rear and front? Or standard. |
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Originally Posted By rabbitfoot69:
Ordered.
I was going to consider the binary trigger but then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVJHVqgXRVI Too many jams The cardinal rule of fast semi auto setups is to keep your bolt carrier cycling faster than your hammer can cycle. My video was the old gen2 design but I had very few issues because I put it in a fast cycling upper. The new design is much more forgiving thankfully. Another three position design is the Fostech Echo, they have been taking pre-orders for almost a year and are just now starting to ship product I've  been waiting on my Echo since March. |
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Originally Posted By rabbitfoot69:
I appreciate it but I'm going to stick to a standard semi-auto trigger! I appreciate your help though! Couldn't completed my build without you, I purchased most of the components you recommended. I'm waiting for my paycheck next Friday to buy the big boy gear! I just need to know how to purchase the iron sights now, considering magpul vs kac. Idk how the sets work for kac since they're all standalone, do I get the micro rear and front? Or standard. Nothing wrong with Magpul pro's and will definately save a few dollars. |
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
I like the KAC micro designs with the adjustable 0-600 design. One of my favorite buis designs. Nothing wrong with Magpul pro's and will definately save a few dollars. KAC MICRO BUIS it is. Any recommendations on stripped uppers? I really wanted a KAC stripped upper but that is impossible to find, I'm thinking Fortis Upper, LaRue Stealth Upper, or maybe even SAI's stripped upper. |
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Originally Posted By rabbitfoot69:
KAC MICRO BUIS it is. Any recommendations on stripped uppers? I really wanted a KAC stripped upper but that is impossible to find, I'm thinking Fortis Upper, LaRue Stealth Upper, or maybe even SAI's stripped upper. I like the Balios Lite upper http://www.2a-arms.com/collections/receivers/products/balios-lite-upper-receiver Of the three you mentioned I would probably use Larue. They're all excellent products. |
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
I like the Balios Lite upper http://www.2a-arms.com/collections/receivers/products/balios-lite-upper-receiver Of the three you mentioned I would probably use Larue. They're all excellent products. Ended up going with the LaRue Stealth stripped upper! I have all the parts for a complete upper now just need the charging handle, I'm almost there! :D |
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Originally Posted By rabbitfoot69:
Ended up going with the LaRue Stealth stripped upper! I have all the parts for a complete upper now just need the charging handle, I'm almost there! :D If you're looking for a good, expensive charging handle, the AXTS Raptors are pretty nice. Edit: Oh, so that's who Radian is. Guess I've been under a rock. Are you putting this together yourself? |
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Originally Posted By SpazzyMcgee123:
If you're looking for a good, expensive charging handle, the AXTS Raptors are pretty nice. Edit: Oh, so that's who Radian is. Guess I've been under a rock. Are you putting this together yourself? I'm going to try and find a friend who builds ARs recreationally build it for me, I want to find a gunsmith locally but I'm afraid they'll charge a ridiculous amount. It seems easy if you have the required tools to do so but unfortunately I do not! |
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Originally Posted By DetrhoytMAK:
Might as well get an Executive Ordnance grip for that bitch. I don't like any of those, I'm still trying to consider a MAGPUL Grip or BRAVO, still don't know what I like, whats more stippled? Decided to go with DD Pistol grip https://danieldefense.com/furniture/pistol-grips/daniel-defense-pistol-grip-black.html |
| I dropped off my upper receiver parts Monday, everything should be ready Wednesday, will post pictures when my upper is complete. I am really debating on purchasing a complete lower or a separate stripped lower so I can start shooting my upper. In the process of gathering parts for an AR308 now. |
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Improved barrel nut (if the changes don't interfere with critical dimensions of your rail):
Core 15 Stress Proof Steel Barrel Nut |
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If you want bling...go with the digital trigger:
https://digitrigger.com/  Failed To Load Title |
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Originally Posted By Kilroytheknifesnob:
Other than spending a lot of money, what is the purpose of this build? Why are you choosing those specific parts to go with each other? Agreed on this one.. I won't judge any ones build, but only picking parts because they are expensive isn't the smartest thing. Just because a part is expensive doesn't mean it's going to function well. But hey, your money, do what makes you happy. Just as long as you post pics when it's done. |
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Originally Posted By rabbitfoot69:
Will this gas tube from BCM not work? http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR15-mid-length-gas-tube-p/gas-tube-mid-length.htm?CartID=1 I will use those buffers recommended. :) I emailed Radians and they said the lower recover would come with proprietary components and all I would need is a trigger if thats what you're referring to small springs and detents. Thank you so much for your advice and not bashing me for an expensive parts list. My first post but I see so many youtube comments of haters saying they can build a cheaper and more effective rifle. Lol I'm a believer in inexpensive but you know what you want to get out of it. Â We can work with that considering you understand it will be $. Frustration occurs when someone wants top shelf parts and has a bottom shelf budget. Can I suggest getting one of those nifty binary triggers? Â Seems like it would give your selector switch a nice little something extra to use the 3rd position. Â The Franklin armory bfs gen 3 should do it. |
Originally Posted By HullBreach: Nah I bought a gun because stabbing people with bullets just doesn't carry the same message of "Get the fuck out of my house"
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Originally Posted By fla556guy:
I'm a believer in inexpensive but you know what you want to get out of it. Â We can work with that considering you understand it will be $. Frustration occurs when someone wants top shelf parts and has a bottom shelf budget. Can I suggest getting one of those nifty binary triggers? Â Seems like it would give your selector switch a nice little something extra to use the 3rd position. Â The Franklin armory bfs gen 3 should do it. It's the same occurrence in why is someone spending $2600 on a Glock 17 from Zev or SAI, the look probably appeals, it won't perform any worst or better than a generic. I know there are people who will be like why not just buy a $7 barrel nut but you're purchasing a $60 barrel nut when the difference is less than miniscule, like who cares, great, I know you can build 3-4 ARs with my current builds budget, to each and ones own! I was recommended the binary triggers franklin/digi. I personally really like the AR Gold, it'll compliment my SAI GOLD BCG. Possibly in the future. |
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Originally Posted By rabbitfoot69:
It's the same occurrence in why is someone spending $2600 on a Glock 17 from Zev or SAI, the look probably appeals, it won't perform any worst or better than a generic. I know there are people who will be like why not just buy a $7 barrel nut but you're purchasing a $60 barrel nut when the difference is less than miniscule, like who cares, great, I know you can build 3-4 ARs with my current builds budget, to each and ones own! I was recommended the binary triggers franklin/digi. I personally really like the AR Gold, it'll compliment my SAI GOLD BCG. Possibly in the future. Originally Posted By rabbitfoot69:
Originally Posted By fla556guy:
I'm a believer in inexpensive but you know what you want to get out of it. Â We can work with that considering you understand it will be $. Frustration occurs when someone wants top shelf parts and has a bottom shelf budget. Can I suggest getting one of those nifty binary triggers? Â Seems like it would give your selector switch a nice little something extra to use the 3rd position. Â The Franklin armory bfs gen 3 should do it. It's the same occurrence in why is someone spending $2600 on a Glock 17 from Zev or SAI, the look probably appeals, it won't perform any worst or better than a generic. I know there are people who will be like why not just buy a $7 barrel nut but you're purchasing a $60 barrel nut when the difference is less than miniscule, like who cares, great, I know you can build 3-4 ARs with my current builds budget, to each and ones own! I was recommended the binary triggers franklin/digi. I personally really like the AR Gold, it'll compliment my SAI GOLD BCG. Possibly in the future. I have to disagree with you here. The Zev/Salient Glocks function way better than a factory Glock. Although maybe not $2,000 better, but you get the point. I just don't think you should spend $60 on something JUST because it is more expensive. Now if it is functionally better, sure. But if part X works better and is $20, I'm not going to buy part Y just because it is $100. |
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Originally Posted By rabbitfoot69:
Nope, I just want to put parts that I like together without a price tag. Than why are you obsessed with spending the most money you can? The stuff you've listed when put together will be a bit of a mess. It's all great stuff, but it makes no sense. I'd really suggest doing research and figuring out what you actually need or want. Or just spend money on a mess, it's your build. |
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Originally Posted By Genesis1:
Than why are you obsessed with spending the most money you can? The stuff you've listed when put together will be a bit of a mess. It's all great stuff, but it makes no sense. I'd really suggest doing research and figuring out what you actually need or want. Or just spend money on a mess, it's your build. Did I opt for a binary trigger? If I was obsessed with spending the most money I would of opted for the franklin(400ish) or digi trigger(500-600) but I stuck with a AR trigger ($280). How is are the parts a bit of a mess? They are all components to build an AR. |
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Originally Posted By rabbitfoot69:
Did I opt for a binary trigger? If I was obsessed with spending the most money I would of opted for the franklin(400ish) or digi trigger(500-600) but I stuck with a AR trigger ($280). How is are the parts a bit of a mess? They are all components to build an AR. Originally Posted By rabbitfoot69:
Originally Posted By Genesis1:
Than why are you obsessed with spending the most money you can? The stuff you've listed when put together will be a bit of a mess. It's all great stuff, but it makes no sense. I'd really suggest doing research and figuring out what you actually need or want. Or just spend money on a mess, it's your build. Did I opt for a binary trigger? If I was obsessed with spending the most money I would of opted for the franklin(400ish) or digi trigger(500-600) but I stuck with a AR trigger ($280). How is are the parts a bit of a mess? They are all components to build an AR. Spending more money doesn't necessarily make for a better AR. Some AR parts work better when paired together. It just seems like you're trying to spend the most you can on an AR with no regards to function. |
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Originally Posted By 4Point6Vince:
Spending more money doesn't necessarily make for a better AR. Some AR parts work better when paired together. It just seems like you're trying to spend the most you can on an AR with no regards to function. I will confirm if it functions. |
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