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Posted: 9/24/2016 12:50:01 AM EDT
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Holy Fuck... no offense... but that looks awful. No, no interest in that.
BTW, there's already a product the duplicates that. It's a charging handle the has a bar that runs parallel outside the receiver to create a forward pull handle. It didn't work out well either. It's a solution for a non problem. If you're involved in something similar.. IMHO, abandon it ASAP. ETA: the product was Gun Fighter Gear side charging handle. It did NOT go over well. |
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Holy Fuck... no offense... but that looks awful. No offense, but you're one crass individual. You see how saying "no offense, but..." doesn't do much to take the bite out of an insult? No shit you wouldn't be interested living in PA. Did you read the post, or just look at pictures and spout off? The terms "manual action" and "restricted state" are kind of important to grasp the context in which someone may be interested in a straight pull right handed AR action. And no, this most certainly doesn't duplicate the product you mentioned. That is a non-reciprocating handle for semi automatic ARs, which runs high up on the driver side, and has a knob fixed at 90°. Totally different animal, totally different market segment. It's a solution for a non problem. Again, you misunderstand the purpose. This is not a tacticool accessory; it's an option for folks who live in places where semi-auto is restricted or banned, who wish to have an AR that operates more similarly to a conventional bolt action. Having to pull a normal AR CH or disengage their support hand to work a left handed knob doesn't appeal to everyone in those situations. That was important enough to the man who contracted the first two to pay me good money to develop and produce them |
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Being a right hander, I would favor the handle on the left side.
This would allow me to fire without removing my firing hand from the grip/trigger. Your machine work looks very good. But I would prefer a shorter handle, terminating close to the front of the BCG. Less leverage for me to break it off, and I could charge the weapon without hitting myself in the face. |
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Quoted: Beautiful piece of work IMHO. I just wonder if one of the available side-charger uppers would have served his purpose. I am a lifetime lefty, but my Matrix Side Charger is the best I have tried from either side... http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh249/ColdBlue_2008/SCR%2020%20inch%20scope.jpg 
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But when they go to clean the gun they'll have to unbolt the lever from the carrier would it be feasible to slot the upper all the way to the rear or would it weaken it to much? Being as this is a manual action conversion, there's not much cleaning needed. No gas & debris coming back through the gas tube or chamber as you would have with a semi auto. Using manual operation and the fact that the AR locks the bolt into the barrel extension, not the receiver, one could get away with milling the slot all the way through the rear. But it wouldn't look very good. As is, the CH almost completely veils the extended cut. Being a right hander, I would favor the handle on the left side.
This would allow me to fire without removing my firing hand from the grip/trigger. For bench work or prone shooting, I'm with you, prefer a lefty action for that. But in the field, having to remove your support hand to chamber a new round is inefficient and counter-intuitive. Is why bolt actions have the bolt handle on the dominant side. Your machine work looks very good. But I would prefer a shorter handle, terminating close to the front of the BCG. Less leverage for me to break it off, and I could charge the weapon without hitting myself in the face. I suggested that to him, but he wanted the knob over the grip, about where it would be on a bolt gun. You'd have to try to even bend this SS bracket, let alone break it off, and the Gr. 5 Ti screws have a higher shear strength than grade 8; would require 4,700 pounds of force to shear those two screws. If you're a righty, nothing is hitting you in the face. why do need to get punched in the face to charge the weapon, when a simple stud more forward would work?
is this for a lefty?? just doesn't make sense See above. The entire assembly is on the right hand side of the weapon, the opposite side of where a right handed shooter's face would be. Do you manage to hit yourself when working a normal right handed bolt gun? Thank you all for your replies, though. Answers my question. Just figured I'd check, since one guy wanted them enough to custom order, and I have a pattern now, so reproducing is just a matter of cutting metal. |
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Wouldn't a POF revolt be a better option? You can charge the action from either side. Many seem to still be missing the critical part here: Manual action for restricted states If you lived under the SAFE act in NY, would you want to spend $2k+ on a heavy proprietary rifle and then permanently disable the semi auto function, or would you rather spend an extra $300 on machine work to build a normal AR into a manual action that still uses all conventional parts except for the modified carrier and upper? If this guy ever leaves NY, all he has to do is swap uppers, or install a gas block, gas tube and unmodified carrier. Replacing the the modified upper with a new stripped upper is optional. |
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See above. The entire assembly is on the right hand side of the weapon, the opposite side of where a right handed shooter's face would be. Do you manage to hit yourself when working a normal right handed bolt gun? Thats a pretty stupid response since your whole premise is that this is for restricted states. If thats the case then the only reason this exist is for "faking" semi auto, which would mean cycling while in the shooting position. With this contraption you will have to un-shoulder, charge then get back into shooting position, unless your left arm is a foot longer than the right If thats not the case then its a waste of time. left hand chargers for banned states/countries already exist and dont resemble your idea anyway shape or form. For RH shooters they are on the left side, all the way forward just so you dont encounter all th problems Ive mentioned. Why dont you post a vid of shooting/charging while standing????? |
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