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+1. ALG is the only low priced trigger I will ever spend my money on. I own the ACT and the QMS, and they're both clean and crisp. The break on the ACT is a little nicer, but I run the QMS on my clones. |
| I have the Palmetto enhanced trigger and it's not bad. I bought it when they were on sale for $35 just to try it out and I left it in the rifle. I thought it was a great deal for $35. I have never tried an ACT or QMS trigger so I cannot compare it to either of them. |
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I have the Palmetto enhanced trigger and it's not bad. I bought it when they were on sale for $35 just to try it out and I left it in the rifle. I thought it was a great deal for $35. I have never tried an ACT or QMS trigger so I cannot compare it to either of them. Well I like most everything PSA I ever orders and you make 8 people who say it's a good deal, so I believe I'll give it a go. I think I'll play with the Colt OEM trigger and see what I can mess it up like anyway... The ALG AK triggers are supposedly awesome, but I already have an awesome AK trigger so, I don't have anything against them... |
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Heard more than a couple people say the ALG Milspec AR trigger, is just that a mil-spec trigger. Nothing more. I have a Colt Mil-spec already... Thanks The triggers you linked are standard triggers as well. The non standard triggers are all 100 bucks and up. The ACT is Nickel boron and Nickel Teflon coated, and both the ACT and QMS are polished correctly. I would guess the triggers you linked won't be any better than either ALG offering, and i can guarantee the second one definitely wont, but since these are all so low priced it's not a big deal even if you do get a lemon. Personally I stick with what's known to be the highest quality available for said price range. |
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+1. ALG is the only low priced trigger I will ever spend my money on. I own the ACT and the QMS, and they're both clean and crisp. The break on the ACT is a little nicer, but I run the QMS on my clones. Quoted:
+1. ALG is the only low priced trigger I will ever spend my money on. I own the ACT and the QMS, and they're both clean and crisp. The break on the ACT is a little nicer, but I run the QMS on my clones. Nailed it! |
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Heard more than a couple people say the ALG Milspec AR trigger, is just that a mil-spec trigger. Nothing more. I have a Colt Mil-spec already... Thanks Yes it is a mil-spec trigger, but it is better than just a standard mil-spec trigger. The trigger is coated with Nickel Boron and the hammer and disconnector are coated with Nickel Teflon. It makes for a very smooth trigger. They are well worth spending a few more dollars than what you would pay for a standard fire control group. |
| I pretty much run all Geissele triggers from SSA-E to the Match. I do however have one lower that I assembled using a CMMG parts kit. That is the only "stock" trigger that I run. I've been very impressed with the trigger. Don't get me wrong, it's not even close to the "low-end" Geissele, but for a standard mil-spec trigger, it's hard to beat. |
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I pretty much run all Geissele triggers from SSA-E to the Match. I do however have one lower that I assembled using a CMMG parts kit. That is the only "stock" trigger that I run. I've been very impressed with the trigger. Don't get me wrong, it's not even close to the "low-end" Geissele, but for a standard mil-spec trigger, it's hard to beat. CMMG's are hit and miss. I used strictly CMMG LPK's minus one DPMS, and my CMMG triggers have been horrid, but every other part in the LPK has been phenominal. I had to replace my CMMG triggers with ALG's because my CMMG triggers were lemons although they still worked. Very gritty and tons of creep, just a very rough/sandpaperish pull. |
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The triggers you linked are standard triggers as well. The non standard triggers are all 100 bucks and up. The ACT is Nickel boron and Nickel Teflon coated, and both the ACT and QMS are polished correctly. I can guarantee the triggers you linked won't be any better than either ALG offering, but since these are all so low priced it's not a big deal even if you do get a lemon. Personally I stick with what's known to be the highest quality available for said price range. Quoted:
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Heard more than a couple people say the ALG Milspec AR trigger, is just that a mil-spec trigger. Nothing more. I have a Colt Mil-spec already... Thanks The triggers you linked are standard triggers as well. The non standard triggers are all 100 bucks and up. The ACT is Nickel boron and Nickel Teflon coated, and both the ACT and QMS are polished correctly. I can guarantee the triggers you linked won't be any better than either ALG offering, but since these are all so low priced it's not a big deal even if you do get a lemon. Personally I stick with what's known to be the highest quality available for said price range. Not to split hairs but it is one or the other, not both. Just curious, what do you consider better? What if the PSA or RTBA trigger performed just as good as the ACT or QMS trigger but at a lower cost, would that make it better? I'm going to order an ACT and possibly QMS trigger so I can compare them to one another and to the PSA trigger that I have. I have wanted to try the ACT trigger for awhile now anyway. I would imagine that all these new low cost coated and polished standard triggers that everyone is offering now are all basically the same. You just need to pick who you buy them from. Much like picking a standard forged lower, you pick your favorite roll mark. I will say this, just from looking at the pictures because I have never seen either of the ALG triggers in person, the finish on them looks nice. The PSA trigger looks just like a coated standard trigger with the contact areas polished. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the ALG triggers look to be finished better overall. |
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Not to split hairs but it is one or the other, not both. Just curious, what do you consider better? What if the PSA or RTBA trigger performed just as good as the ACT or QMS trigger but at a lower cost, would that make it better? I'm going to order an ACT and possibly QMS trigger so I can compare them to one another and to the PSA trigger that I have. I have wanted to try the ACT trigger for awhile now anyway. I would imagine that all these new low cost coated and polished standard triggers that everyone is offering now are all basically the same. You just need to pick who you buy them from. Much like picking a standard forged lower, you pick your favorite roll mark. I will say this, just from looking at the pictures because I have never seen either of the ALG triggers in person, the finish on them looks nice. The PSA trigger looks just like a coated standard trigger with the contact areas polished. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the ALG triggers look to be finished better overall. Quoted:
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Heard more than a couple people say the ALG Milspec AR trigger, is just that a mil-spec trigger. Nothing more. I have a Colt Mil-spec already... Thanks The triggers you linked are standard triggers as well. The non standard triggers are all 100 bucks and up. The ACT is Nickel boron and Nickel Teflon coated, and both the ACT and QMS are polished correctly. I can guarantee the triggers you linked won't be any better than either ALG offering, but since these are all so low priced it's not a big deal even if you do get a lemon. Personally I stick with what's known to be the highest quality available for said price range. Not to split hairs but it is one or the other, not both. Just curious, what do you consider better? What if the PSA or RTBA trigger performed just as good as the ACT or QMS trigger but at a lower cost, would that make it better? I'm going to order an ACT and possibly QMS trigger so I can compare them to one another and to the PSA trigger that I have. I have wanted to try the ACT trigger for awhile now anyway. I would imagine that all these new low cost coated and polished standard triggers that everyone is offering now are all basically the same. You just need to pick who you buy them from. Much like picking a standard forged lower, you pick your favorite roll mark. I will say this, just from looking at the pictures because I have never seen either of the ALG triggers in person, the finish on them looks nice. The PSA trigger looks just like a coated standard trigger with the contact areas polished. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the ALG triggers look to be finished better overall. You are incorrect. The ALG ACT trigger is Nickel Boron coated. And the hammer, disco, and pins are Nickel Teflon coated. |
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You are 100% correct, I was looking at the description on PA's website and just now looked up ALG's website info.... my apologies.
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You are incorrect. The ALG ACT trigger is Nickel Boron coated. And the hammer, disco, and pins are Nickel Teflon coated. Quoted:
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Heard more than a couple people say the ALG Milspec AR trigger, is just that a mil-spec trigger. Nothing more. I have a Colt Mil-spec already... Thanks The triggers you linked are standard triggers as well. The non standard triggers are all 100 bucks and up. The ACT is Nickel boron and Nickel Teflon coated, and both the ACT and QMS are polished correctly. I can guarantee the triggers you linked won't be any better than either ALG offering, but since these are all so low priced it's not a big deal even if you do get a lemon. Personally I stick with what's known to be the highest quality available for said price range. Not to split hairs but it is one or the other, not both. Just curious, what do you consider better? What if the PSA or RTBA trigger performed just as good as the ACT or QMS trigger but at a lower cost, would that make it better? I'm going to order an ACT and possibly QMS trigger so I can compare them to one another and to the PSA trigger that I have. I have wanted to try the ACT trigger for awhile now anyway. I would imagine that all these new low cost coated and polished standard triggers that everyone is offering now are all basically the same. You just need to pick who you buy them from. Much like picking a standard forged lower, you pick your favorite roll mark. I will say this, just from looking at the pictures because I have never seen either of the ALG triggers in person, the finish on them looks nice. The PSA trigger looks just like a coated standard trigger with the contact areas polished. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the ALG triggers look to be finished better overall. You are incorrect. The ALG ACT trigger is Nickel Boron coated. And the hammer, disco, and pins are Nickel Teflon coated. |
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You are 100% correct, I was looking at the description on PA's website and just now looked up ALG's website info.... my apologies. Quoted:
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Heard more than a couple people say the ALG Milspec AR trigger, is just that a mil-spec trigger. Nothing more. I have a Colt Mil-spec already... Thanks The triggers you linked are standard triggers as well. The non standard triggers are all 100 bucks and up. The ACT is Nickel boron and Nickel Teflon coated, and both the ACT and QMS are polished correctly. I can guarantee the triggers you linked won't be any better than either ALG offering, but since these are all so low priced it's not a big deal even if you do get a lemon. Personally I stick with what's known to be the highest quality available for said price range. Not to split hairs but it is one or the other, not both. Just curious, what do you consider better? What if the PSA or RTBA trigger performed just as good as the ACT or QMS trigger but at a lower cost, would that make it better? I'm going to order an ACT and possibly QMS trigger so I can compare them to one another and to the PSA trigger that I have. I have wanted to try the ACT trigger for awhile now anyway. I would imagine that all these new low cost coated and polished standard triggers that everyone is offering now are all basically the same. You just need to pick who you buy them from. Much like picking a standard forged lower, you pick your favorite roll mark. I will say this, just from looking at the pictures because I have never seen either of the ALG triggers in person, the finish on them looks nice. The PSA trigger looks just like a coated standard trigger with the contact areas polished. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the ALG triggers look to be finished better overall. You are incorrect. The ALG ACT trigger is Nickel Boron coated. And the hammer, disco, and pins are Nickel Teflon coated. No worries. It was fun to say tho. 
The main difference is the Polish job IMO. Spikes and all of these other boutique coated trigger distributors have NiB and this that and the other coatings, but they are either polished by somebody that doesn't understand FCG's and case hardening like Bill does, or not polished at all. I used the Spikes unit (only Nickel Boron, no Nickel Teflon) and I found it to be no better than an off the shelf LPK FCG. The nickel boron/nickel Teflon paired with the ALG polish job makes a damn nice low priced FCG. Even my QMS (only polished, no fancy coatings) had been better than any standard LPK trigger I've pulled including Colt. |
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No worries. It was fun to say tho.
The main difference is the Polish job IMO. Spikes and all of these other boutique coated trigger distributors have NiB and this that and the other coatings, but they are either polished by somebody that doesn't understand FCG's and case hardening like Bill does, or not polished at all. I used the Spikes unit (only Nickel Boron, no Nickel Teflon) and I found it to be no better than an off the shelf LPK FCG. The nickel boron/nickel Teflon paired with the ALG polish job makes a damn nice low priced FCG. Even my QMS (only polished, no fancy coatings) had been better than any standard LPK trigger I've pulled including Colt. No worries, it's like water on a sponge or is that a ducks back! I'm curious to see how this PSA trigger holds up. I'm hoping it's not just a low round count trigger before it gets nasty. The only standard trigger that I have been impressed with was from Aero. I bought one of their complete lowers when they were on sale earlier this year and was really impressed with the trigger. The problem with installing/ using any of the nicer triggers is that you want to replace all your triggers afterwards. I'm most definitely going to order one of the ACT triggers to try out. |
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No worries, it's like water on a sponge or is that a ducks back! I'm curious to see how this PSA trigger holds up. I'm hoping it's not just a low round count trigger before it gets nasty. The only standard trigger that I have been impressed with was from Aero. I bought one of their complete lowers when they were on sale earlier this year and was really impressed with the trigger. The problem with installing/ using any of the nicer triggers is that you want to replace all your triggers afterwards. I'm most definitely going to order one of the ACT triggers to try out. Quoted:
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No worries. It was fun to say tho.
The main difference is the Polish job IMO. Spikes and all of these other boutique coated trigger distributors have NiB and this that and the other coatings, but they are either polished by somebody that doesn't understand FCG's and case hardening like Bill does, or not polished at all. I used the Spikes unit (only Nickel Boron, no Nickel Teflon) and I found it to be no better than an off the shelf LPK FCG. The nickel boron/nickel Teflon paired with the ALG polish job makes a damn nice low priced FCG. Even my QMS (only polished, no fancy coatings) had been better than any standard LPK trigger I've pulled including Colt. No worries, it's like water on a sponge or is that a ducks back! I'm curious to see how this PSA trigger holds up. I'm hoping it's not just a low round count trigger before it gets nasty. The only standard trigger that I have been impressed with was from Aero. I bought one of their complete lowers when they were on sale earlier this year and was really impressed with the trigger. The problem with installing/ using any of the nicer triggers is that you want to replace all your triggers afterwards. I'm most definitely going to order one of the ACT triggers to try out. If I had to guess I'd guess that the PSA will hold up just fine. Will the pull quality be as good as an ALG ACT? idk, my guess would be close but no cigar. But that's just a guess. I do like PSA products though, especially the premium line, so I will give them the benefit of the doubt. I have an Aero upper but no Aero lower, and the upper has been flawless. Very high quality stuff. |
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Just save up and get a good trigger. Dollar for dollar, a G2S or SSA will be the best money you can spend on an AR upgrade. I shoot better with a QMS than I do with an SSA. To me, the SSA is just a mushy three stage trigger. The QMS is more shootable to me. A teeny-tiny amount of creep, a clean break, same overtravel as a stock trigger. An SSA-E is a damn good trigger for a precision rig, but light two-stage triggers get on my nerves for a CQB/general purpose AR. |
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I shoot better with a QMS than I do with an SSA. To me, the SSA is just a mushy three stage trigger. The QMS is more shootable to me. A teeny-tiny amount of creep, a clean break, same overtravel as a stock trigger. An SSA-E is a damn good trigger for a precision rig, but light two-stage triggers get on my nerves for a CQB/general purpose AR. Quoted:
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Just save up and get a good trigger. Dollar for dollar, a G2S or SSA will be the best money you can spend on an AR upgrade. I shoot better with a QMS than I do with an SSA. To me, the SSA is just a mushy three stage trigger. The QMS is more shootable to me. A teeny-tiny amount of creep, a clean break, same overtravel as a stock trigger. An SSA-E is a damn good trigger for a precision rig, but light two-stage triggers get on my nerves for a CQB/general purpose AR. To each their own but, if the only thing keeping you from having a ND is a couple extra lbs of trigger pull something is very wrong. |
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Are the ALG ACT and OMS both suppose to be over 5.5lbs? (mil-spec) The QMS is mil-spec. The ACT I just got has 2 springs, one is 4.5lb, the other is 6.0-6.5 according to the instruction sheet that came w/ the trigger. I have one of each, both are nicer than the mil-spec Colt trigger for sure. |
| I have an ACT in my 11.5" build and to me it feels like a good broken in mil-spec trigger. It's smooth, has very little creep, the break is predictable, and I believe mine has around a 5.5 pound pull. It's definitely not a match trigger but it is worth the extra money over a standard mil-spec trigger, to me anyway. |
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To each their own but, if the only thing keeping you from having a ND is a couple extra lbs of trigger pull something is very wrong. Quoted:
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Just save up and get a good trigger. Dollar for dollar, a G2S or SSA will be the best money you can spend on an AR upgrade. I shoot better with a QMS than I do with an SSA. To me, the SSA is just a mushy three stage trigger. The QMS is more shootable to me. A teeny-tiny amount of creep, a clean break, same overtravel as a stock trigger. An SSA-E is a damn good trigger for a precision rig, but light two-stage triggers get on my nerves for a CQB/general purpose AR. To each their own but, if the only thing keeping you from having a ND is a couple extra lbs of trigger pull something is very wrong. How did you extrapolate anything in my post to even remotely indicate that I thought a QMS would help me prevent an ND? I said that SSA triggers suck because they're a mushy three stage trigger, SSA-Es are nice crisp two-stage triggers, and that I seriously dislike precision oriented triggers on CQB/general purpose AR15s because two-stage triggers get on my nerves in that application. |
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OP did say "cheapo," right?
I installed a DPMS GI kit in an Apex lower and it was horrible until the set screw was adjusted - which took out 85% of the creep and grit. Recently bought an Anderson LPK with stainless trigger and hammer, put it in a PSA stripped lower, and it's better. They made the parts to eliminate creep and the sear had no grit from the beginning. Cheapo in this case was better than GI. The Anderson cost half. Moving up to an ALG or buying parts with electroless nickel doesn't seem to be the right direction if discussing cheapo, but it goes to perspective. I got no issues with my cheapo trigger. I doubt plating it would really make stainless better and oiling it now and again does the same thing cheaper. |
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All of the triggers mentioned in this thread are great budget mil spec type triggers. Not to bash any of the other products but we take it one step farther and actually match each set with trigger/hammer springs that produce a 5 - 5 1/2 lb break. We verify each assembly with a pull gauge before packaging. Also, we do not touch the base metal after heat treatment. Sear surfaces are polished before heat treat and then very lightly polished after the Nickel Teflon application. If anyone is interested in doing a review please get a hold of me. Rob [email protected] |
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Heard more than a couple people say the ALG Milspec AR trigger, is just that a mil-spec trigger. Nothing more. I have a Colt Mil-spec already... Thanks ALG triggers are just slightly smoothed over stock triggers. If you are building from scratch it's a good option, but if you have a stock trigger now the slight (maybe) improvement isn't worth the money. Before you spend a lot of money, try JP yellow springs and moly grease on your current trigger. You may like that feel enough to not have to buy anything else. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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