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4/13/2015 11:33:53 PM EDT
Got tired of waiting for a KAC Free Float RAS to build a SAM-R clone - so I went a direction I think is simplistic, yet will get the job done as well or almost as well as the SAM-R.

It started out with a LNIB Rock River Arms LAR-15 with a 20" barrel and....a National Match trigger. I scored it for $750 at a local fun show. I was pleased with the purchase.

Next, I farted around reading just about every review of every scope ever made - and settled on the Burris FullField 2 with the Ballisti-Plex reticle, I got new for $179 at Cabelas. I can't say enough about this bare-bones little scope. It is clear as a bell, even when compared against scopes that are 2 or 3 times the costs. It's lightweight and I have it mounted in a similarly lightweight mount from DNZ called the Freedom Reaper.

This is all that is going on the rifle - no rails, light, VFG, or bipod. Just bare bones, and simple. It may not be some of ya'lls cup of tea, but I dig it.

ETA: I did leave out there is a Magpul Pro MBUS and a MS1 sling on order. Shit. I guess it's not "Done".

Well, at least ya'll got to enjoy a pic of one of those oddball 20-Inchers


4/14/2015 1:20:48 AM EDT
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That's a brute! What's it weigh? Looks like it should be a good shooter b
4/14/2015 2:44:38 AM EDT
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Nice rifle OP! Nice and simple. 'Classic' original looks never go out of fashion.
Huge fan of 20" barrels for hunting/range use.
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4/14/2015 2:52:46 AM EDT
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Nice dude, and if all else fails, it would be fairly easy to turn into an M16A4 clone
4/14/2015 7:27:54 AM EDT
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Real nice!


4/14/2015 7:43:25 AM EDT
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Nice rifle.  

It's begging for a KAC M5.

4/14/2015 7:54:46 AM EDT
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Nah...already have one of those new Colt 20"'ers made up into an M16A4 clone.

4/14/2015 7:54:58 AM EDT
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4/14/2015 8:46:14 AM EDT
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Good question...I'm guessing around 9 or 9.5 pounds.
4/14/2015 8:50:29 AM EDT
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Nice rifle OP! Nice and simple. 'Classic' original looks never go out of fashion.
Huge fan of 20" barrels for hunting/range use.
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What's next? I may turn this into an M-16A5 clone. If not, then some sort of SBR will b next. Maybe a Mk18 or one of those retro, Vietnam War era SBRs. I'm also into those IDF clone rifles. So many to choose from! So little of my money my wife gives me to buy cool things with!
4/14/2015 10:07:54 AM EDT
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Perfect...absolutely perfect. The noobs should pay attention to what makes a shooter instead of a queen.
4/14/2015 4:37:22 PM EDT
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Thanks for the compliment on my rifle! I must say it is tempting to free float the barrel with at least an DCM Free Float tube, but I am going to find out which ammo it likes best and  see how it shoots before undo anything else....well, except for the rear BUIS and sling. I feel a rear BUISA is a mandatory thing with a fixed FSB.
4/14/2015 7:48:50 PM EDT
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Thanks for the compliment on my rifle! I must say it is tempting to free float the barrel with at least an DCM Free Float tube, but I am going to find out which ammo it likes best and  see how it shoots before undo anything else....well, except for the rear BUIS and sling. I feel a rear BUISA is a mandatory thing with a fixed FSB.
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Perfect...absolutely perfect. The noobs should pay attention to what makes a shooter instead of a queen.




Thanks for the compliment on my rifle! I must say it is tempting to free float the barrel with at least an DCM Free Float tube, but I am going to find out which ammo it likes best and  see how it shoots before undo anything else....well, except for the rear BUIS and sling. I feel a rear BUISA is a mandatory thing with a fixed FSB.


I free floated mine and like it, but it does add a pound. I also shortened the A2 stock to A1 length.



Here's a thread about the free float tube install.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/573339_National_Match_Free_Floating_Barrel_Sleeve_and_A2_Front_Sight__Install___Review__PICS.html




 
4/14/2015 8:06:48 PM EDT
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Got tired of waiting for a KAC Free Float RAS to build a SAM-R clone - so I went a direction I think is simplistic, yet will get the job done as well or almost as well as the SAM-R.

It started out with a LNIB Rock River Arms LAR-15 with a 20" barrel and....a National Match trigger. I scored it for $750 at a local fun show. I was pleased with the purchase.

Next, I farted around reading just about every review of every scope ever made - and settled on the Burris FullField 2 with the Ballisti-Plex reticle, I got new for $179 at Cabelas. I can't say enough about this bare-bones little scope. It is clear as a bell, even when compared against scopes that are 2 or 3 times the costs. It's lightweight and I have it mounted in a similarly lightweight mount from DNZ called the Freedom Reaper.

This is all that is going on the rifle - no rails, light, VFG, or bipod. Just bare bones, and simple. It may not be some of ya'lls cup of tea, but I dig it.

ETA: I did leave out there is a Magpul Pro MBUS and a MS1 sling on order. Shit. I guess it's not "Done".

Well, at least ya'll got to enjoy a pic of one of those oddball 20-Inchers


http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r550/jself1976/IMG_1533_zps3ztmglmm.jpg
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That is a thing of beauty. I'm firmly in the camp of less is more when it comes to AR-15's. Mine is not unlike yours except for the stock and carry handle.

4/14/2015 9:35:40 PM EDT
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I free floated mine and like it, but it does add a pound. I also shortened the A2 stock to A1 length.

Here's a thread about the free float tube install.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/573339_National_Match_Free_Floating_Barrel_Sleeve_and_A2_Front_Sight__Install___Review__PICS.html

http://4-riders.com/pics/AR/A2Stock011.jpg



 
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Perfect...absolutely perfect. The noobs should pay attention to what makes a shooter instead of a queen.


Thanks for the compliment on my rifle! I must say it is tempting to free float the barrel with at least an DCM Free Float tube, but I am going to find out which ammo it likes best and  see how it shoots before undo anything else....well, except for the rear BUIS and sling. I feel a rear BUISA is a mandatory thing with a fixed FSB.

I free floated mine and like it, but it does add a pound. I also shortened the A2 stock to A1 length.

Here's a thread about the free float tube install.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/573339_National_Match_Free_Floating_Barrel_Sleeve_and_A2_Front_Sight__Install___Review__PICS.html

http://4-riders.com/pics/AR/A2Stock011.jpg



 



Interesting. Is an A1 buffer tube required for theA1 stock? I am not sure if the free-floated barrel the DCM tube allows is worth the pound of weight. What do you say?


4/14/2015 10:15:03 PM EDT
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Interesting. Is an A1 buffer tube required for theA1 stock? I am not sure if the free-floated barrel the DCM tube allows is worth the pound of weight. What do you say?





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Perfect...absolutely perfect. The noobs should pay attention to what makes a shooter instead of a queen.




Thanks for the compliment on my rifle! I must say it is tempting to free float the barrel with at least an DCM Free Float tube, but I am going to find out which ammo it likes best and  see how it shoots before undo anything else....well, except for the rear BUIS and sling. I feel a rear BUISA is a mandatory thing with a fixed FSB.


I free floated mine and like it, but it does add a pound. I also shortened the A2 stock to A1 length.



Here's a thread about the free float tube install.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/573339_National_Match_Free_Floating_Barrel_Sleeve_and_A2_Front_Sight__Install___Review__PICS.html



http://4-riders.com/pics/AR/A2Stock011.jpg
 






Interesting. Is an A1 buffer tube required for theA1 stock? I am not sure if the free-floated barrel the DCM tube allows is worth the pound of weight. What do you say?







Buffer tubes are the same, the A2 stock uses a spacer and a longer stock screw.

Here's the thread about shortening the A2. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_12/673229_A2_rifle_stock_shortened_to_A1_length__yes_it_s_possible.html&page=1&anc=6834929#i6834929



The AR pictured above is heavy, near 13 pounds with a full mag and bi pod on it. But it's not a carry around gun so I don't care about the weight. I grew up with heavy target guns so I don't fuss about weight even at my 60 years of age. With that being said...I think it's worth the extra pound. This gun was accurate without the free float, the improvement showed when shooting off of bags or a bi-pod. I'm real happy with it.



 
4/15/2015 9:44:37 PM EDT
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great looking rifle..ditto on the Burris Fullfield II.  i have one with the lighted reticle on my SDM-R.I had the target turrets installed by Burris..it's one great scope for the money!
4/15/2015 10:20:13 PM EDT
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great looking rifle..ditto on the Burris Fullfield II.  i have one with the lighted reticle on my SDM-R.I had the target turrets installed by Burris..it's one great scope for the money!
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/jcrowl/IMG_1481.jpg
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Can you hook me up with the build list? I really dig your set up!!!!
4/15/2015 10:22:25 PM EDT
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Nice rifle OP! Nice and simple. 'Classic' original looks never go out of fashion.
Huge fan of 20" barrels for hunting/range use.
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by classic look I thought you meant the toes in the picture.....



good looking rifle.
4/17/2015 8:20:42 AM EDT
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I free floated mine and like it, but it does add a pound. I also shortened the A2 stock to A1 length.

Here's a thread about the free float tube install.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/573339_National_Match_Free_Floating_Barrel_Sleeve_and_A2_Front_Sight__Install___Review__PICS.html

http://4-riders.com/pics/AR/A2Stock011.jpg

Hey OlCrow nice rifle....That looks like a weaver V-16 or maybe 24 mounted on that thing...I have 2 V-16's and absolutely love those scopes......Om my rifle like yours I have a chunk of lead you can add to the cavity on the A2 stock makes it help for nice easy shooting......And I just turned 60 myself this month.





 
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Perfect...absolutely perfect. The noobs should pay attention to what makes a shooter instead of a queen.


Thanks for the compliment on my rifle! I must say it is tempting to free float the barrel with at least an DCM Free Float tube, but I am going to find out which ammo it likes best and  see how it shoots before undo anything else....well, except for the rear BUIS and sling. I feel a rear BUISA is a mandatory thing with a fixed FSB.

I free floated mine and like it, but it does add a pound. I also shortened the A2 stock to A1 length.

Here's a thread about the free float tube install.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/573339_National_Match_Free_Floating_Barrel_Sleeve_and_A2_Front_Sight__Install___Review__PICS.html

http://4-riders.com/pics/AR/A2Stock011.jpg

Hey OlCrow nice rifle....That looks like a weaver V-16 or maybe 24 mounted on that thing...I have 2 V-16's and absolutely love those scopes......Om my rifle like yours I have a chunk of lead you can add to the cavity on the A2 stock makes it help for nice easy shooting......And I just turned 60 myself this month.





 

4/17/2015 10:18:29 AM EDT
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Perfect...absolutely perfect. The noobs should pay attention to what makes a shooter instead of a queen.




Thanks for the compliment on my rifle! I must say it is tempting to free float the barrel with at least an DCM Free Float tube, but I am going to find out which ammo it likes best and  see how it shoots before undo anything else....well, except for the rear BUIS and sling. I feel a rear BUISA is a mandatory thing with a fixed FSB.


I free floated mine and like it, but it does add a pound. I also shortened the A2 stock to A1 length.



Here's a thread about the free float tube install.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/573339_National_Match_Free_Floating_Barrel_Sleeve_and_A2_Front_Sight__Install___Review__PICS.html



http://4-riders.com/pics/AR/A2Stock011.jpg



Hey OlCrow nice rifle....That looks like a weaver V-16 or maybe 24 mounted on that thing...I have 2 V-16's and absolutely love those scopes......Om my rifle like yours I have a chunk of lead you can add to the cavity on the A2 stock makes it help for nice easy shooting......And I just turned 60 myself this month.
 




Thank you Munk.



The scope on mine is a C16, not as good as the V16 but still decent glass made in Japan. It does the job but I still might replace it with a better one some day.



I have one of those lead weights for the stock around here from about 25 years ago, I might try it for balance. But it's about as heavy as I want to go as it is. I do find it easier to hold a heavy gun steady over a light one.



Happy Birthday.



 
4/17/2015 7:31:00 PM EDT
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Can you hook me up with the build list? I really dig your set up!!!!
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great looking rifle..ditto on the Burris Fullfield II.  i have one with the lighted reticle on my SDM-R.I had the target turrets installed by Burris..it's one great scope for the money!
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/jcrowl/IMG_1481.jpg


Can you hook me up with the build list? I really dig your set up!!!!


It's based on the Army's Squad Designated Marksman Rifle. Rock River lower with a Geissele DMR high speed trigger. Barrel is a Douglas Stainless 20" barrel, 1/8 twist, with 12 flutes under the handguards, from Compass Lake Engineering. Daniel Defense Free Float rails. set screw FSB. Burris scope in a Larue mount. Harris Bipod, Turner sling. Here's a few more pics:




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