Warning

 

Close
Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Cancel Confirm
AR15.COM
AR Sponsor
1/19/2015 8:44:27 PM EDT
Triggers , FO or NO?
1/19/2015 9:02:22 PM EDT
[#1]
Gtg for the money. They don't compare to geiselle and similar, but the cost isn't the same either. The ALG is a definite upgrade from a stock trigger.
1/19/2015 9:03:07 PM EDT
[#2]
FO fo 'sho.

I love a QMS.
1/19/2015 9:10:04 PM EDT
[#3]
Great prices, thanks
1/19/2015 9:25:38 PM EDT
[#4]
Like my. Good for the money.
1/19/2015 9:58:13 PM EDT
[#5]
Running the ALG ACT in my Spike's. Would definitely buy another ACT.
1/19/2015 10:26:12 PM EDT
[#6]
GTG
1/19/2015 10:34:12 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote History
Quoted:
Running the ALG ACT in my Spike's. Would definitely buy another ACT.
View Quote


This, I run the ACT in my 20" A4'gery. Absolutely LOVE it. As soon as I can afford it, I am getting 6 more
1/19/2015 10:40:37 PM EDT
[#8]
Replaced a gritty mil spec trigger with one. Night and day. I do have another crisp mil spec trigger that I wouldn't swap as the improvement would be minimal.
1/19/2015 10:45:39 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote History
Quoted:
Replaced a gritty mil spec trigger with one. Night and day. I do have another crisp mil spec trigger that I wouldn't swap as the improvement would be minimal.
View Quote

This ^^^^^

My ACT is way better than stock mil style triggers.
1/19/2015 10:47:30 PM EDT
[#10]
The ACT trigger is now the bare minimum I'll have in any rifle. It's a big step up in quality from most GI triggers.
1/19/2015 10:52:51 PM EDT
[#11]
I have a QMS and love it
1/19/2015 11:04:45 PM EDT
[#12]
i have their cheap one, the QMS i think.  for $50 shipped to my door, it is miles above the factory trigger.  for an spr or precision gun, go with a geissele, but for a plinking AR, they are awesome.
1/19/2015 11:43:20 PM EDT
[#13]
What do you base your decision on which you go with? ACT or QMS
1/19/2015 11:53:48 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote History
Quoted:
What do you base your decision on which you go with? ACT or QMS
View Quote
 

Both feel the same to me.  I normally pair mine up with yellow jp springs.  It's shot every ammo I've put through it, no light strikes.  Mine does not necessarily reflect the whole though.



1/20/2015 12:08:56 AM EDT
[#15]
ACT is what I have replaced a number of mil spec trigger with.  Those anyway that I don't have a G2S in.
1/20/2015 12:11:42 AM EDT
[#16]
I have a couple ARs with the ALG ACT and I really like them.
1/20/2015 12:12:02 AM EDT
[#17]
Alg= Amy Lynn Geissle

They make solid products
1/20/2015 12:27:37 AM EDT
[#18]
QMS is my 'go-to' trigger when I don't want to drop the dough on a Geissele.
1/20/2015 12:40:04 AM EDT
[#19]
Buy an ACT and JP springs.
1/20/2015 12:51:33 AM EDT
[#20]
Me likey the alg m lok

" />
1/20/2015 12:57:33 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote History
Quoted:
The ACT trigger is now the bare minimum I'll have in any rifle. It's a big step up in quality from most GI triggers.
View Quote


Same here. I have five rifles with ACT triggers installed.
1/20/2015 1:29:17 AM EDT
[#22]
The fact a couple mentioned upgrading the springs. Not that I'm doubting it would be a benefit, but is it really that much of a difference? I know JP does have a few different springs available so does one cover most usage? To be honest, every thing I own is mil-spec, don't know that i'd recognize the benefit of spring upgrades,
1/20/2015 1:43:28 AM EDT
[#23]
Lighter springs reduce pull weight. But then you also run the royal of light primer strikes if you go to light.
1/20/2015 8:19:30 AM EDT
[#24]
The ALG is even lighter pull with just the JP trigger spring, run the supplied hammer spring if your worried about light strikes.   You can get the JP with th eenhanced power hammer spring.

I've setup several ALG's with JP enhanced power spring set and installed a setscrew thru the grip hold down screw.  I see 3.5-4lb pull with zero creep, milspec reliability.
1/20/2015 9:05:58 AM EDT
[#25]
I have both a QMS and a couple ACT's.

The ACT seems only minimally better than the QMS, so I'll probably only buy a QMS next time.

EDIT: Also, I would NEVER put a standard parts kit trigger in, ever. I immediately upgrade triggers.
1/20/2015 1:52:20 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote History
Quoted:
The ALG is even lighter pull with just the JP trigger spring, run the supplied hammer spring if your worried about light strikes.   You can get the JP with th eenhanced power hammer spring.

I've setup several ALG's with JP enhanced power spring set and installed a setscrew thru the grip hold down screw.  I see 3.5-4lb pull with zero creep, milspec reliability.
View Quote



I understand light strikes. How is this corrected, or is it an ammo thing? How often is this an issue, I would think far and few between.
1/20/2015 2:46:12 PM EDT
[#27]
I cannot tell the difference, I mean nothing, from the trigger I took out of a Colt 6920, and the QMS. S marked the same, same exact feel on both. Never shot an ACT, all my other triggers are SSA-E, G2S or CMC Singles.
1/20/2015 2:52:16 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote History
Quoted:



I understand light strikes. How is this corrected, or is it an ammo thing? How often is this an issue, I would think far and few between.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
The ALG is even lighter pull with just the JP trigger spring, run the supplied hammer spring if your worried about light strikes.   You can get the JP with th eenhanced power hammer spring.

I've setup several ALG's with JP enhanced power spring set and installed a setscrew thru the grip hold down screw.  I see 3.5-4lb pull with zero creep, milspec reliability.



I understand light strikes. How is this corrected, or is it an ammo thing? How often is this an issue, I would think far and few between.


Get JPs "Enhanced Reliabilty"  Red-Yellow springs. Light trigger with a heavy hammer.
1/20/2015 6:58:32 PM EDT
[#29]
Thanks to all
1/20/2015 7:02:17 PM EDT
[#30]
ACT owner. It's a damn nice trigger for the money.
1/20/2015 7:26:42 PM EDT
[#31]
This +1
1/20/2015 7:59:44 PM EDT
[#32]
I went with an ACT over the QMS because the ACT felt "crisper" to me.  I may get a QMS to put in another rifle and compare them side-by-side in a real rifle, but I tried them both out in Geissele's trigger testers at the Houston NRA convention a while back.
1/20/2015 8:52:33 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote History
Quoted:
I cannot tell the difference, I mean nothing, from the trigger I took out of a Colt 6920, and the QMS. S marked the same, same exact feel on both. Never shot an ACT, all my other triggers are SSA-E, G2S or CMC Singles.
View Quote


That means you got lucky and had a good trigger in the 6920.  Colts usually do have the best out of the box triggers.

I use QMSs because they're $45 and are better than an SSA to me because I really don't like a two stage trigger.  

The QMS I have in my go-to has zero creep and is an awesome trigger.
1/20/2015 8:52:33 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote History
Quoted:
I cannot tell the difference, I mean nothing, from the trigger I took out of a Colt 6920, and the QMS. S marked the same, same exact feel on both. Never shot an ACT, all my other triggers are SSA-E, G2S or CMC Singles.
View Quote


That means you got lucky and had a good trigger in the 6920.  Colts usually do have the best out of the box triggers.

I use QMSs because they're $45 and are better than an SSA to me because I really don't like a two stage trigger.  

The QMS I have in my go-to has zero creep and is an awesome trigger.
1/20/2015 10:53:32 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote History
Quoted:
Running the ALG ACT in my Spike's. Would definitely buy another ACT.
View Quote


+1 Added JP Yellow springs to mine. smooth shooting
1/20/2015 11:38:32 PM EDT
[#36]
QMS owner here, very happy with it.
1/20/2015 11:54:43 PM EDT
[#37]
Sounds to me like either is fine, change springs, GTG
1/21/2015 8:34:03 AM EDT
[#38]
I stuck with the springs that came with my ACT.  Compared to my "good" stock triggers it feels MUCH lighter, so there was no reason to make it feel even lighter.  Plus, with the springs that come with it, the ACT is guaranteed to have "at least" 5.5 pounds pull, the minimum MIL-SPEC for safety.  Now my SSA-E ha a much lighter pull at 4.5# total, but the SSA-E is pretty darn sensitive.  So I stick with a 5.5 pound or so pull in my SBR.
1/21/2015 9:15:09 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote History
Quoted:
I stuck with the springs that came with my ACT.  Compared to my "good" stock triggers it feels MUCH lighter, so there was no reason to make it feel even lighter.  Plus, with the springs that come with it, the ACT is guaranteed to have "at least" 5.5 pounds pull, the minimum MIL-SPEC for safety.
View Quote

Good point. That safety margin under stress is why I kept the same springs they were shipped with, and both still feel very good.
I bought an ACT and a QMS early on, just to try them out side by side, and I'm very happy with both.
Having said that, I'm about to order a couple more of the QMS, because I can't really detect any difference in the two.
Either one is an excellent bargain for the price though.
1/22/2015 3:52:08 PM EDT
[#40]
I have an ALG trigger in my SBR. For the money, I decided to give it a shot. I am very impressed of how smooth it is. It takes all the grit out and makes for clean trigger pull. It is not going to lighten the actual pull, but certainly clean it up a lot. Considering the price, it is an excellent upgrade. I am now eyeing an ALG rail because I now know they make quality gear.
AR Sponsor