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Posted: 9/14/2013 5:36:23 PM EDT
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How cheap can it be done in the current market? Assembling piece by piece, waiting on the cheapest used/sale/parts humanly possible?
As in poly lowers, cheap blemmed uppers, no-name non chromed barrels and BCG's etc? Now that i nearly have my Best Carbine Made assembled i was thinking it would be cool to try the challenge and compare the two. Can it be done for less than 400$? |
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Idk about less than $400....that's stretching it. I just started a pretty cheap build. Blem PSA lower w/moe lpk $116.99 shipped, and a MOE stock/tube assembly for $63 shipped. Ya i saw those. I think there were some 99.99 with normal LPK. I think it can be done with just the right deals. |
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How cheap can it be done in the current market? Assembling piece by piece, waiting on the cheapest used/sale/parts humanly possible? As in poly lowers, cheap blemmed uppers, no-name non chromed barrels and BCG's etc? Now that i nearly have my Best Carbine Made assembled i was thinking it would be cool to try the challenge and compare the two. Can it be done for less than 400$? I mean... if you're after absolute cheapest, regardless of how shitty and ill-advised, it'd be hard to beat a Blackthorne kit at $459 with a polymer stripped lower, no matter how much you shopped around for blemished and otherwise separate crappy parts: http://blackthorneproducts.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_16&products_id=284 ...~$509 before shipping and transfer... But seriously, I would just spend a little bit more money and get something relatively decent. Staying around $600 with not top of the line, but semi-decent parts and a forged lower wouldn't be that difficult to do if you looked around. Used would make it even easier. ~Augee |
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I mean... if you're after absolute cheapest, regardless of how shitty and ill-advised, it'd be hard to beat a Blackthorne kit at $459 with a polymer stripped lower, no matter how much you shopped around for blemished and otherwise separate crappy parts: http://blackthorneproducts.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_16&products_id=284 ...~$509 before shipping and transfer... But seriously, I would just spend a little bit more money and get something relatively decent. Staying around $600 with not top of the line, but semi-decent parts and a forged lower wouldn't be that difficult to do if you looked around. Used would make it even easier. ~Augee Quoted:
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How cheap can it be done in the current market? Assembling piece by piece, waiting on the cheapest used/sale/parts humanly possible? As in poly lowers, cheap blemmed uppers, no-name non chromed barrels and BCG's etc? Now that i nearly have my Best Carbine Made assembled i was thinking it would be cool to try the challenge and compare the two. Can it be done for less than 400$? I mean... if you're after absolute cheapest, regardless of how shitty and ill-advised, it'd be hard to beat a Blackthorne kit at $459 with a polymer stripped lower, no matter how much you shopped around for blemished and otherwise separate crappy parts: http://blackthorneproducts.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_16&products_id=284 ...~$509 before shipping and transfer... But seriously, I would just spend a little bit more money and get something relatively decent. Staying around $600 with not top of the line, but semi-decent parts and a forged lower wouldn't be that difficult to do if you looked around. Used would make it even easier. ~Augee Yeah but that's a kit and is missing the lower too. And that takes all of the fun and experience gained from building. Plus, the goal is a Frankengun. |
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Doing it cheap will probably cost you more than doing it right the first time after you have to fix it. Yes, but quality or worry about replacing is not necessarily the goal. It's more of an experiment. How utterly cheap can it be done (sub 400$) and how will it really stack up against a upper end name brand. As far as feel, joy of shooting etc etc |
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Just after Obama round one I bought a RRA lower for $350. I got the a new bushmaster A1 14.5" upper as a tip for a hunt. So I have a $350 in an AR.
I know of a bunch of guys that find deals from guys in the oilfields that have over extended themselves and get all sorts of cheap deals on AR's in the $400 to $500 range for rifles that they could get $1000 for if they weren't in a hurry. It can be done cheap in the right circumstances. |
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Yes, but quality or worry about replacing is not necessarily the goal. It's more of an experiment. How utterly cheap can it be done (sub 400$) and how will it really stack up against a upper end name brand. As far as feel, joy of shooting etc etc Quoted:
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Doing it cheap will probably cost you more than doing it right the first time after you have to fix it. Yes, but quality or worry about replacing is not necessarily the goal. It's more of an experiment. How utterly cheap can it be done (sub 400$) and how will it really stack up against a upper end name brand. As far as feel, joy of shooting etc etc Just get a plastic lower, and you're already ahead. http://www.riflegear.com/p-1388-new-frontier-lw-15-complete-polymer-lower.aspx |
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Doing it cheap will probably cost you more than doing it right the first time after you have to fix it. Not always. You just have to be smart about what you buy and wait for decent quality at a good price even if you have to go used. That's how I built my beater woods gun for under $450 |
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Just get a plastic lower, and you're already ahead. http://www.riflegear.com/p-1388-new-frontier-lw-15-complete-polymer-lower.aspx Quoted:
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Doing it cheap will probably cost you more than doing it right the first time after you have to fix it. Yes, but quality or worry about replacing is not necessarily the goal. It's more of an experiment. How utterly cheap can it be done (sub 400$) and how will it really stack up against a upper end name brand. As far as feel, joy of shooting etc etc Just get a plastic lower, and you're already ahead. http://www.riflegear.com/p-1388-new-frontier-lw-15-complete-polymer-lower.aspx Yeah, New Frontier poly was one of the ones i had in mind. |
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http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/ar-15-parts-sale/complete-classic-lower-w-hipertouch-24-trigger-ca-model-no-magazine.html $320 Machined from Aluminum Forgings 7075-T6 Hardcoat Anodizing: MIL-A-8625F, Type III, Class 2 Milspec Diameter Receiver Extension M4 Stock Staked M4 Lock Nut Standard Carbine Buffer Hipertouch 24 Trigger No Magazine 6" Barrel length Chrome moly vanadium barrel 5.56 Nato Chamber 1 in 7" twist rate chrome-lined bore M4 Feed ramps MI SS12G2 free-float Rail A2 Flash Hider Forged upper receiver T-Marks Carpenter 158 Bolt Chrome-lined full auto profile carrier. $820 but you still need a mag and sights, using what the have in stock if you wait for sales you can probably build a rifle for around $600-$700 |
The only thing that will hurt your build, pricewise, is sourcing parts from many different vendors. The shipping adds up fast, try to look for free shipping and/or group as many parts in one order. I think 500 is doable, not sure about 400 though. Maybe looking local with a bunch of guys with overflowing junk drawers 
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The only thing that will hurt your build, pricewise, is sourcing parts from many different vendors. The shipping adds up fast, try to look for free shipping and/or group as many parts in one order. I think 500 is doable, not sure about 400 though. Maybe looking local with a bunch of guys with overflowing junk drawers Quoted:
The only thing that will hurt your build, pricewise, is sourcing parts from many different vendors. The shipping adds up fast, try to look for free shipping and/or group as many parts in one order. I think 500 is doable, not sure about 400 though. Maybe looking local with a bunch of guys with overflowing junk drawers Very good point. Something that will have to be factored in heavily. Quoted:
Best Carbine made? I must have missed that. Sorry, was just curious since you posted that in your OP Best Carbine Made = BCM. It's just poking fun, mainly. And, remember, guys, Frakengun, from top to bottom. No kits. Half of the fun is building and i need the learning experience. |
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New Frontier poly lower, then scour the EE for deals. Palmetto also has(d) $80 complete BCGs. That's about $200 after shipping. Then you just need an upper, barrel assembly, and CH. You can probably find a beater barrel for $100 shipped (I have before). That's $300 You will then need to find an upper and CH for $100 shipped, which is very doable if you buy used parts.
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My last build for a customer
Blem Aero Lower 75 LPK 60 Generic stock 40 ICE BCG 105 Blem Aero Upper 60 1/9 barrel 100 handguard FSB 60 Total 500 more or less depending on shipping costs. I buy the generic stocks and handguards from CDNN due to low costs and cheap shipping. I can get poly lowers from New Frontier for about 60, which is in the same range as the Aero Precision, but I tell customers that if they ever want to be able to sell the gun down the road a poly lower will be a kiss of death. I don't have anything against poly lowers, I just look at resale value down the road. |
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PTAC complete M4 upper from PSA last week-$320
Blemisher lower and LPK-$99 BlackHawk 6 position stock - $32 Lower and stock were purchased with free shipping deal 2 weeks ago. A complete rifle for around $450 before shipping and FFL transfer. Still waiting on my upper! |
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