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Posted: 8/25/2013 12:48:22 PM EDT
Hello everybody. This is my first post, so I'll start with my intro. My name is Mitch, I'm an Air Force vet ('87-'91/93rd Bombardment Wing/B-52 CrewChief), married w/2 daughters (still at home). I have been working in the security industry for 22 years now, I just haven't decided if I want to make it my career 
I know the question has been asked on her ad nauseum, but not sure if it has been asked for this reason. I am wondering, if I would only buy one AR-15 (complete) for around $800 to $1000, what would be the best way to go? I would add optics, and accessories on my own. Looking for durability, ease of maintenance, maintenance parts availabity, and it will be used for regular shooting indoors and out, and home defense if the SHTF. I asked the question this way, is because it would most likely be my only AR-15. I enjoy firearms quite a bit, but I'm not the type that would have multiples of the same caliber. More like just 1 of each. I also want an AK-47, but wit the immense production of these rifles, I'm not worried about availability any time soon. I shoot with my daughters regularly (twice a month) at my dads farm, and there is an indoor range by my office, for in the winter. Thanks everyone! |
| Get a colt 6920, 16" carbine length gas system. If you don't get a colt, get a 16" carbine length gas system and standard carbine buffer, something that functions flawlessly with all ammo types, don't get all exotic if it's your only AR, you can always add rails and optics and stocks and all that good stuff if you want, but basically you are going to want it to be reliable with all ammo. Get a 1 in 9 or a 1 in 7 twist barrell, in that order. Good luck, lots of good ones out there, Colt, S&W, Windham (hope I spelled that right) etc. etc. ..... |
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Welcome to the site. I'm also a former crew chief (A-10). You want this for $859:
https://www.primaryarms.com/Spikes-Tactical-16-ST-15-M4-LE-Carbine-5-56x45-p/str-5025-m4s.htm 
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Welcome to the AR site.
Currently there are around about a dozen threads around here that are asking the same question as you, no offense, here are just a few links to the noted threads. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/620548_What_are_the_better_AR_s_in_the__1000_range_.html http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/619200_Looking_to_buy_my_first_ar_15.html http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/618756_Looking_to_buy_my_first_AR15__need_help__________.html Here's an older FAQ thread of most common brands and what features are desirable, just disregard the manufacturers Charles Daly and Sabre Defence they are no longer in business, all the other info are still OK. So You Want To Buy An AR-15 - Features To Consider - tacked FAQ thread link |
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Get a colt 6920, 16" carbine length gas system. If you don't get a colt, get a 16" carbine length gas system and standard carbine buffer, something that functions flawlessly with all ammo types, don't get all exotic if it's your only AR, you can always add rails and optics and stocks and all that good stuff if you want, but basically you are going to want it to be reliable with all ammo. Get a 1 in 9 or a 1 in 7 twist barrell, in that order. Good luck, lots of good ones out there, Colt, S&W, Windham (hope I spelled that right) etc. etc. ..... This!......... |
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Welcome to the site. I'm also a former crew chief (A-10). You want this for $859: https://www.primaryarms.com/Spikes-Tactical-16-ST-15-M4-LE-Carbine-5-56x45-p/str-5025-m4s.htm https://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/pknwg.xycut/v/vspfiles/photos/STR-5025-M4S-2.jpg Great rifle. |
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Get a colt 6920, 16" carbine length gas system. If you don't get a colt, get a 16" carbine length gas system and standard carbine buffer, something that functions flawlessly with all ammo types, don't get all exotic if it's your only AR, you can always add rails and optics and stocks and all that good stuff if you want, but basically you are going to want it to be reliable with all ammo. Get a 1 in 9 or a 1 in 7 twist barrell, in that order. Good luck, lots of good ones out there, Colt, S&W, Windham (hope I spelled that right) etc. etc. ..... Not even Colt fanboys tout 16" carbine gas. If going with a 16", mid gas is the way to go. |
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Welcome to the AR site. Currently there are around about a dozen threads around here that are asking the same question as you, no offense, here are just a few links to the noted threads. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/620548_What_are_the_better_AR_s_in_the__1000_range_.html http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/619200_Looking_to_buy_my_first_ar_15.html http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/618756_Looking_to_buy_my_first_AR15__need_help__________.html Here's an older FAQ thread of most common brands and what features are desirable, just disregard the manufacturers Charles Daly and Sabre Defence they are no longer in business, all the other info are still OK. So You Want To Buy An AR-15 - Features To Consider - tacked FAQ thread link Excellent post. Thanks for the links! |
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Welcome to the site. I'm also a former crew chief (A-10). You want this for $859: https://www.primaryarms.com/Spikes-Tactical-16-ST-15-M4-LE-Carbine-5-56x45-p/str-5025-m4s.htm https://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/pknwg.xycut/v/vspfiles/photos/STR-5025-M4S-2.jpg I agree, I had been wanting a complete spikes and had it on my wish list. Picked one up this year and for the price you can't beat it. Good shooter and well built. |
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Not even Colt fanboys tout 16" carbine gas. If going with a 16", mid gas is the way to go. Quoted:
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Get a colt 6920, 16" carbine length gas system. If you don't get a colt, get a 16" carbine length gas system and standard carbine buffer, something that functions flawlessly with all ammo types, don't get all exotic if it's your only AR, you can always add rails and optics and stocks and all that good stuff if you want, but basically you are going to want it to be reliable with all ammo. Get a 1 in 9 or a 1 in 7 twist barrell, in that order. Good luck, lots of good ones out there, Colt, S&W, Windham (hope I spelled that right) etc. etc. ..... Not even Colt fanboys tout 16" carbine gas. If going with a 16", mid gas is the way to go. Although I have a spikes carbine gas, that mid length I have that's hf, is the shiznit. My next build is waiting for an mid upper.but I still love my spikes carbine. |
| PSA always has great deals running, if I'm not mistaken they have two carbines for $1099 sporting either an aimpoint pro or an eotech 512, whichever you fancy, and they're on par with spikes and colts. why spend a grand on just the rifle when you can get same quality rifle + quality optic for the same price. Spikes, BCM, and Colts are all good too. |
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PSA always has great deals running, if I'm not mistaken they have two carbines for $1099 sporting either an aimpoint pro or an eotech 512, whichever you fancy, and they're on par with spikes and colts. why spend a grand on just the rifle when you can get same quality rifle + quality optic for the same price. Spikes, BCM, and Colts are all good too. 
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Quoted: You belong on - deleted by moderator - links to this site/forum/vendor are not allowed - w/that prima dona attitude; lighten up Francis... AR15 DISCUSSIONS FORUM RULES BEFORE POSTING IN THIS FORUM, PLEASE READ THE AR15 DISCUSSIONS FAQ. IT CONTAINS A WEALTH OF INFORMATION WHICH WILL HELP YOU AVOID ASKING QUESTIONS WHICH ARE ALREADY COVERED. 90+% of the time, the answers to your questions can be found in the FAQ entries, and folks have worked hard to compile this information for you. Also, scan the topics on the first couple of pages, because someone else might have had the same question recently, and the answer to your question may be in that earlier thread. I guess the mult topics are not good enough huh??? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/618584_New_to_AR_platform_Advice_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/618208_new_AR_owner_and_have_some_questions.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616472_New_here__want_to_buy_build_my_first_ar_need_help.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616905_Purchasing_A_New_AR___Need_Opinions.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/617429_Starting_a_new_build_and_have_questions.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/617029_New_Guy__Finally_Introducing_Myself.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616896_New_Rifle____how_d_I_do_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616868_New_Guy__Grease_on_Receiver_Extension_Threads.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616653_New_upper_build__thoughts_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616453_New_here_with_a_new_gun_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616634_new_member_couple_questions.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616437_New_AR_guy_and_need_help_with_an_upper.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616157_New_here___Just_saying_Hello_and_showing_my_stash.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616046_NEW_WOOOO_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/620393_New_member__First_two_Franken_AR.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/615291_New_to_AR15_com.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/619808_New_to_AR_s_Wanting_my_first_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/619640_New_here_and_____.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/618892_Recommended_AR_15_and_new_to_the_forum___.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/618926_New_here___Introduction.html&light=new |
| How about this Palmetto patrol rifle with PRO optic I believe they are offering free shipping right now. |
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Welcome to the site. I'm also a former crew chief (A-10). You want this for $859: https://www.primaryarms.com/Spikes-Tactical-16-ST-15-M4-LE-Carbine-5-56x45-p/str-5025-m4s.htm https://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/pknwg.xycut/v/vspfiles/photos/STR-5025-M4S-2.jpg I would buy this |
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Do you even know what the rules of the forum say in the first 2 sentences???? Obviously not. [div style='text-align: center;']AR15 DISCUSSIONS FORUM RULES [div style='text-align: center; font-weight: bold;']BEFORE POSTING IN THIS FORUM, PLEASE READ THE AR15 DISCUSSIONS FAQ. IT CONTAINS A WEALTH OF INFORMATION WHICH WILL HELP YOU AVOID ASKING QUESTIONS WHICH ARE ALREADY COVERED. 90+% of the time, the answers to your questions can be found in the FAQ entries, and folks have worked hard to compile this information for you. Also, scan the topics on the first couple of pages, because someone else might have had the same question recently, and the answer to your question may be in that earlier thread. I guess the mult topics are not good enough huh??? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/618584_New_to_AR_platform_Advice_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/618208_new_AR_owner_and_have_some_questions.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616472_New_here__want_to_buy_build_my_first_ar_need_help.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616905_Purchasing_A_New_AR___Need_Opinions.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/617429_Starting_a_new_build_and_have_questions.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/617029_New_Guy__Finally_Introducing_Myself.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616896_New_Rifle____how_d_I_do_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616868_New_Guy__Grease_on_Receiver_Extension_Threads.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616653_New_upper_build__thoughts_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616453_New_here_with_a_new_gun_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616634_new_member_couple_questions.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616437_New_AR_guy_and_need_help_with_an_upper.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616157_New_here___Just_saying_Hello_and_showing_my_stash.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616046_NEW_WOOOO_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/620393_New_member__First_two_Franken_AR.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/615291_New_to_AR15_com.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/619808_New_to_AR_s_Wanting_my_first_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/619640_New_here_and_____.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/618892_Recommended_AR_15_and_new_to_the_forum___.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/618926_New_here___Introduction.html&light=new Quoted:
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You belong on - deleted by moderator - links to this site/forum/vendor are not allowed - w/that prima dona attitude; lighten up Francis... [div style='text-align: center;']AR15 DISCUSSIONS FORUM RULES [div style='text-align: center; font-weight: bold;']BEFORE POSTING IN THIS FORUM, PLEASE READ THE AR15 DISCUSSIONS FAQ. IT CONTAINS A WEALTH OF INFORMATION WHICH WILL HELP YOU AVOID ASKING QUESTIONS WHICH ARE ALREADY COVERED. 90+% of the time, the answers to your questions can be found in the FAQ entries, and folks have worked hard to compile this information for you. Also, scan the topics on the first couple of pages, because someone else might have had the same question recently, and the answer to your question may be in that earlier thread. I guess the mult topics are not good enough huh??? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/618584_New_to_AR_platform_Advice_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/618208_new_AR_owner_and_have_some_questions.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616472_New_here__want_to_buy_build_my_first_ar_need_help.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616905_Purchasing_A_New_AR___Need_Opinions.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/617429_Starting_a_new_build_and_have_questions.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/617029_New_Guy__Finally_Introducing_Myself.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616896_New_Rifle____how_d_I_do_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616868_New_Guy__Grease_on_Receiver_Extension_Threads.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616653_New_upper_build__thoughts_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616453_New_here_with_a_new_gun_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616634_new_member_couple_questions.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616437_New_AR_guy_and_need_help_with_an_upper.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616157_New_here___Just_saying_Hello_and_showing_my_stash.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616046_NEW_WOOOO_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/620393_New_member__First_two_Franken_AR.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/615291_New_to_AR15_com.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/619808_New_to_AR_s_Wanting_my_first_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/619640_New_here_and_____.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/618892_Recommended_AR_15_and_new_to_the_forum___.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/618926_New_here___Introduction.html&light=new How about just letting the moderators moderate.... If you don't like the "what should I get for my first rifle" threads, don't read them, simple enough, |
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Do you even know what the rules of the forum say in the first 2 sentences???? Obviously not. [div style='text-align: center;']AR15 DISCUSSIONS FORUM RULES [div style='text-align: center; font-weight: bold;']BEFORE POSTING IN THIS FORUM, PLEASE READ THE AR15 DISCUSSIONS FAQ. IT CONTAINS A WEALTH OF INFORMATION WHICH WILL HELP YOU AVOID ASKING QUESTIONS WHICH ARE ALREADY COVERED. 90+% of the time, the answers to your questions can be found in the FAQ entries, and folks have worked hard to compile this information for you. Also, scan the topics on the first couple of pages, because someone else might have had the same question recently, and the answer to your question may be in that earlier thread. I guess the mult topics are not good enough huh??? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/618584_New_to_AR_platform_Advice_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/618208_new_AR_owner_and_have_some_questions.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616472_New_here__want_to_buy_build_my_first_ar_need_help.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616905_Purchasing_A_New_AR___Need_Opinions.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/617429_Starting_a_new_build_and_have_questions.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/617029_New_Guy__Finally_Introducing_Myself.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616896_New_Rifle____how_d_I_do_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616868_New_Guy__Grease_on_Receiver_Extension_Threads.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616653_New_upper_build__thoughts_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616453_New_here_with_a_new_gun_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616634_new_member_couple_questions.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616437_New_AR_guy_and_need_help_with_an_upper.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616157_New_here___Just_saying_Hello_and_showing_my_stash.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616046_NEW_WOOOO_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/620393_New_member__First_two_Franken_AR.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/615291_New_to_AR15_com.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/619808_New_to_AR_s_Wanting_my_first_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/619640_New_here_and_____.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/618892_Recommended_AR_15_and_new_to_the_forum___.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/618926_New_here___Introduction.html&light=new Quoted:
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You belong on - deleted by moderator - links to this site/forum/vendor are not allowed - w/that prima dona attitude; lighten up Francis... [div style='text-align: center;']AR15 DISCUSSIONS FORUM RULES [div style='text-align: center; font-weight: bold;']BEFORE POSTING IN THIS FORUM, PLEASE READ THE AR15 DISCUSSIONS FAQ. IT CONTAINS A WEALTH OF INFORMATION WHICH WILL HELP YOU AVOID ASKING QUESTIONS WHICH ARE ALREADY COVERED. 90+% of the time, the answers to your questions can be found in the FAQ entries, and folks have worked hard to compile this information for you. Also, scan the topics on the first couple of pages, because someone else might have had the same question recently, and the answer to your question may be in that earlier thread. I guess the mult topics are not good enough huh??? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/618584_New_to_AR_platform_Advice_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/618208_new_AR_owner_and_have_some_questions.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616472_New_here__want_to_buy_build_my_first_ar_need_help.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616905_Purchasing_A_New_AR___Need_Opinions.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/617429_Starting_a_new_build_and_have_questions.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/617029_New_Guy__Finally_Introducing_Myself.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616896_New_Rifle____how_d_I_do_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616868_New_Guy__Grease_on_Receiver_Extension_Threads.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616653_New_upper_build__thoughts_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616453_New_here_with_a_new_gun_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616634_new_member_couple_questions.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616437_New_AR_guy_and_need_help_with_an_upper.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616157_New_here___Just_saying_Hello_and_showing_my_stash.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/616046_NEW_WOOOO_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/620393_New_member__First_two_Franken_AR.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/615291_New_to_AR15_com.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/619808_New_to_AR_s_Wanting_my_first_.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/619640_New_here_and_____.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/618892_Recommended_AR_15_and_new_to_the_forum___.html&light=new http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/618926_New_here___Introduction.html&light=new Put all the links, etc you want..; still doesn't refute the fact you belong M4C with all the other arrogant turds... |
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