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Posted: 5/27/2013 3:34:13 PM EDT
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I agree re: the STR. It would be a very nice stock if it were anywhere near as tight as the CTR. I am steadily switching everything over to B5/LMT SOPMODs (even though accessing the storage compartments is a royal PITA). Edit: I have owned three STRs as I kept on hoping I had a bad one. I shoot them in the first position (adjusted so that it is one click out from fully compressed) |
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What's up with that? CTR, nice and tight fit. PRS, same thing STR, it's a fucking wobbling hunk of shit. The lock doesn't do a damn thing ( have 2 both the same way ) STL, or whatever it is called limited storage one. Sucks ass too. Why would they put out suck fucked up products? Just because some other companies stocks wobble. If they can make a tight fit with the CTR. Why not a better fit in their more costly stocks? I'm ready to just toss them on ebay, and just buy CTR's or Colt rogers stocks. There has to be a way to tighten the damn things up. Hey, I love their Pmags, but those stocks mentioned SUCK. Yes everything is mill spec. I can pull an STR off one of my buffer tubes. Put on a CTR, or the Colt, and they are nice and tight Put back on the STR, and it wobbles back and forth. Is their a fix for this BS? Sorry to piss off any of you Magpul fanboys. I have a MOE stock that does the same exact thing. |
| my STR is the same as yours...wobbly piece of shit. the lock doesnt do anything on the most closed position (where i like to shoot). it does lock if you extend it out further though, but thats not how i shoot so it doesnt mean a damn thing to me. i emailed magpul and asked them if i got a bad stock or if this was just a wobbly piece of shit, they never responded (probably too embaressed). i wont buy anything magpul again because of that, altho it pains me to say that because i approve how they handled colorodo's recent legislation. |
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. . . . . Is their a fix for this BS? Sorry to piss off any of you Magpul fanboys. If you were looking for a fix, you could have posted it in the Magpul section, called Magpul, or emailed them. They would have taken care of you. maybe I should cross post it. Looks like I'm not the only guy with the same complaint. I thought I read about a fix a few years ago. But it was one where you could get to the roll pin that holds the lock. I like the heavier weight of those stocks, on the guns with heavier barrels. But that left to right slop drives me nuts. |
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i emailed magpul and asked them if i got a bad stock or if this was just a wobbly piece of shit, they never responded (probably too embaressed). Or it hit a spam filter, or accidentally got deleted, or any other number of things could have happened. Email them again, if there is no response, give them a call or post in their forum. I don't know where the issue lays, but I do know that Magpul is not going to help you or make any changes if they don't know about it. |
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maybe I should cross post it. Looks like I'm not the only guy with the same complaint. I thought I read about a fix a few years ago. But it was one where you could get to the roll pin that holds the lock. I like the heavier weight of those stocks, on the guns with heavier barrels. But that left to right slop drives me nuts. you arent, see above. and to the guys who say their STR isnt loose, is that while the stock is extended or collapsed? |
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My STR, ACS-L, and CTR are all extremely tight when the friction lock is engaged. I would verify that you aren't installing a commercial sized buttstock onto a milspec sized receiver extension. I assure you they are all Mil. Spec tubes, and the same for the stocks. If it was 1 way you wouldn't be able to even put it on. The opposite way it would flop around like a fish. This isn't my 1st dance I only own 1 commercial tube. It has a Bushmaster aluminum vinal coated Colt clone stock on it for a retro build that I cut down. for a moderator Because I wasn't going to do that to my early SP1 carbine I shoot my stocks on the second position out. I also use the thicker but pad. I like where it positions the stock better 
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I contacted Magpul about the sloppy fit of a MOE stock. I was sent back a email response. It stated that Magpul has opened up the inside dimensions of stock to fit better on the buffer tubes being manufactured. translation: we no longer make our stocks to the same high quality fitment we used to because we want to accomodate out-of-spec receiver extensions made by low level manufacturers. shame. |
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I contacted Magpul about the sloppy fit of a MOE stock. I was sent back a email response. It stated that Magpul has opened up the inside dimensions of stock to fit better on the buffer tubes being manufactured. translation: we no longer make our stocks to the same high quality fitment we used to because we want to accomodate out-of-spec receiver extensions made by low level manufacturers. shame. 
post the email... |
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my STR is the same as yours...wobbly piece of shit. the lock doesnt do anything on the most closed position (where i like to shoot). it does lock if you extend it out further though, but thats not how i shoot so it doesnt mean a damn thing to me. i emailed magpul and asked them if i got a bad stock or if this was just a wobbly piece of shit, they never responded (probably too embaressed). i wont buy anything magpul again because of that, altho it pains me to say that because i approve how they handled colorodo's recent legislation. If I got an email that asked questions the way you state them above, I wouldn't feel too much in a hurry to answer either. But more than likely your spam filter stopped a reply, rather than Magpul not replying to you. I have an ACS and a CTR, and both fit extremely tightly. In fact, everything I have from Magpul, from their trigger guards to their mags, to their rail covers is rock solid. Opening up to accommodate "MIL-SPEC" receiver extensions that aren't really to spec should not make a stock wobbly, unless your extension is on the skinny side of the spec. If you don't find a reply from Magpul in your spam folder, maybe you might call 'em or email them with less inflammatory wording. I'll bet they make things right by you if there is a problem with the stock. |
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typical. I dont get an email from a company and you assume i sent them a trashy message?
I recently purchased an STR from a retailer (xxxxxxxxx) and have some questions. When in any of the extended positions, the stock doesnt really have any play in it, but when fully closed with the friction lock closed, the stock has quite a bit of side to side and back and forth play. I measured how far back the friction lock goes and it's close to where the rail ends. I have an ACS which doesnt experience any play in the closed position, however its also a longer stock so the lock is further back. My buddies have CTR's though and they said there is no play in the closed position with the lock engaged and those 2 stocks are roughly the same length. So my question is, is the friction lock on my stock just weak? or is the STR by design/length going to have some play when fully closed? Thanks for your time, xxxxxxx and yes, i did check my spam filter, i am not a moron. i have six different mil spec receiver extensions with stocks ranging from sopmods to ACS. none of the stocks are wobbly except the STR. the STR is wobbly on every one of them ONLY in the closed position. its past a point where i care about getting a replacement, theres plenty of other companies i can spend money at. |
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I have one STR on a BCM receiver extension, and it's a perfect fit. See that's my three setups. I wonder if we don't have us a buffer tube issue here?? Could be Magpul is correct with all the new tubes on the market in the last two years it's better to do what you state they said then to listen to 1000 assholes bitch cause they don't fit at all?? This could be worth looking at what Tube we are all using as stated I run all BCM kits......... |
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What's up with that? CTR, nice and tight fit. PRS, same thing STR, it's a fucking wobbling hunk of shit. The lock doesn't do a damn thing ( have 2 both the same way ) STL, or whatever it is called limited storage one. Sucks ass too. Why would they put out suck fucked up products? Just because some other companies stocks wobble. If they can make a tight fit with the CTR. Why not a better fit in their more costly stocks? I'm ready to just toss them on ebay, and just buy CTR's or Colt rogers stocks. There has to be a way to tighten the damn things up. Hey, I love their Pmags, but those stocks mentioned SUCK. Yes everything is mill spec. I can pull an STR off one of my buffer tubes. Put on a CTR, or the Colt, and they are nice and tight Put back on the STR, and it wobbles back and forth. Is their a fix for this BS? Sorry to piss off any of you Magpul fanboys. You aren't using enough liquid nails |
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What's up with that? CTR, nice and tight fit. PRS, same thing STR, it's a fucking wobbling hunk of shit. The lock doesn't do a damn thing ( have 2 both the same way ) STL, or whatever it is called limited storage one. Sucks ass too. Why would they put out suck fucked up products? Just because some other companies stocks wobble. If they can make a tight fit with the CTR. Why not a better fit in their more costly stocks? I'm ready to just toss them on ebay, and just buy CTR's or Colt rogers stocks. There has to be a way to tighten the damn things up. Hey, I love their Pmags, but those stocks mentioned SUCK. Yes everything is mill spec. I can pull an STR off one of my buffer tubes. Put on a CTR, or the Colt, and they are nice and tight Put back on the STR, and it wobbles back and forth. Is their a fix for this BS? Sorry to piss off any of you Magpul fanboys. You aren't using enough liquid nails 
I'm going to mike my buffer tubes tomorrow. |
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Quoted: Quoted: . . . . . Is their a fix for this BS? Sorry to piss off any of you Magpul fanboys. If you were looking for a fix, you could have posted it in the Magpul section, called Magpul, or emailed them. They would have taken care of you. That would be waaaay to difficult haha |
| I recently got a so called Magpul ACS to go on a Stag lower I built. Was really excited about the stock as it looked like any other ACS stocks I had looked at in shops. Put the thing on and instant side to side wobble wobble. The friction lock was useless,had the look but no function. Turns out it was made in China. It won't even fit properly on my full metal airsoft M4! looks good but totally useless. Make sure you don't have one of these fake pieces of crap!! |
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1 CTR - purchased first and was a nice snug fit,friction lock doesnt get used 3 MOE - because they were snug enough I didnt need the friction lock 1 B5 - nice snug fit my receiver extensions are all mil-spec 2 colts 2 BCM 1 unknown mfg I hope magpul hasn't changed their stocks to accommodate out of spec receiver extensions  also there are a lot of chinese imitations floating around that look legit even including the box |
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Ive had two MOE stocks side by side with the same buffer tube. A brand new one (about two months old) and on that was purchased years ago. They fit very differently. One was so tight it barely fit on the tube, the other fit loosely. It was strange...
ETA: Beginning to think one of them is a chinese knockoff now |
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my STR is the same as yours...wobbly piece of shit. the lock doesnt do anything on the most closed position (where i like to shoot). it does lock if you extend it out further though, but thats not how i shoot so it doesnt mean a damn thing to me. i emailed magpul and asked them if i got a bad stock or if this was just a wobbly piece of shit, they never responded (probably too embaressed). i wont buy anything magpul again because of that, altho it pains me to say that because i approve how they handled colorodo's recent legislation. Considering how swamped they are (major multi-state move of their operation, recent political conditions, etc.) I'd say your decision to abandon the Magpul ship was grossly premature....and based that decision because of not hearing back via email? Did you call? Did you post in the industry section? Magpul CS is one of the best in the industry. Keep calm and tone down the over-the-top backlash there turbo. |
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typical. I dont get an email from a company and you assume i sent them a trashy message? I recently purchased an STR from a retailer (xxxxxxxxx) and have some questions. When in any of the extended positions, the stock doesnt really have any play in it, but when fully closed with the friction lock closed, the stock has quite a bit of side to side and back and forth play. I measured how far back the friction lock goes and it's close to where the rail ends. I have an ACS which doesnt experience any play in the closed position, however its also a longer stock so the lock is further back. My buddies have CTR's though and they said there is no play in the closed position with the lock engaged and those 2 stocks are roughly the same length. So my question is, is the friction lock on my stock just weak? or is the STR by design/length going to have some play when fully closed? Thanks for your time, xxxxxxx and yes, i did check my spam filter, i am not a moron. i have six different mil spec receiver extensions with stocks ranging from sopmods to ACS. none of the stocks are wobbly except the STR. the STR is wobbly on every one of them ONLY in the closed position. its past a point where i care about getting a replacement, theres plenty of other companies i can spend money at. If I implied that I expected your email had been written exactly as you posted, I appologise. As I'm sure you are aware, there are plenty of members here who could easily have emailed that, or worse. Instead, I replied as I did hoping that it would come across as kind of humorous. I obviously failed at that. Further, I have worked with a number of highly educated professionals who somehow see, to be completely ignorant of simple things like spam filters, so I feel that in a public post that it ne'er hurts to remind people of such things (not necessarily you specifically). With the level of detail you put in the actual email, I would hope that Magpul's people are trying to see if there is an issue with the STR lock at the fully closed position, or something similar in the way of looking into the issue you brought up. Considering the amount of uproar still in the whole industry and with them moving pretty much as we speak, I see an opportunity for plenty of delay in email responses. How long ago did you send that email? Maybe a phone call would be a better way to contact them about what is obviously not an isolated issue. Again, sorry that my "humor" fell flat and that my post came across as being harsh and aimed specifically at you. |
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I've said this same shit a hundred times here (I actually have no interest in Magpul fixing anything - there are a ton of people that eat up their sloppy shit, so I was content to sell the Magpul stocks I've owned. Plus, in my search for a tight fitting stock I've got the same response from every manufacturer out there about the tolerances). Usually the replies are overrun with people saying their Magpul stocks lock up super tight and I'm crazy. You can actually alter the locking sleeve in a CTR and get them to fit tighter, but the locking mechanism is inferior to something like the Rogers Super stoc. My concern is more with the fact that most magpul stocks I've owned locked up tight when installed, but became loose after the first extended shooting session.
It is what it is - I don't think sending them e-mails is going to make the stocks any tighter. |
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maybe I should cross post it. Looks like I'm not the only guy with the same complaint. I thought I read about a fix a few years ago. But it was one where you could get to the roll pin that holds the lock. I like the heavier weight of those stocks, on the guns with heavier barrels. But that left to right slop drives me nuts. you arent, see above. and to the guys who say their STR isnt loose, is that while the stock is extended or collapsed? Checked my FDE STR this morning. The stock does have some wobble when fully collapsed. I run mine 1 notch out and never noticed. It is solid in all positions other than when its fully collapse as I said. |
| My STR locks up just as tight as the CTR I had before it. No issues here from any of the Magpul gear. Actually had a friend purchase the wrong type of stock and Magpul sent him the right one out before he even sent the wrong one back. I'm sure they will assist you. Try calling CS instead of waiting for an email reply. |
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In all fairness, I don't think people should be chiming in, describing how tight or loose their MOE stocks fit. They don't have a locking/cam mechanism so they really aren't competing with stock models that have that feature built-in. If MOEs had no play, there wouldn't be a need for the CTR. Magpul would have just released a MOE+ or something with a QD socket built into it. |
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In all fairness, I don't think people should be chiming in, describing how tight or loose their MOE stocks fit. They don't have a locking/cam mechanism so they really aren't competing with stock models that have that feature built-in. If MOEs had no play, there wouldn't be a need for the CTR. Magpul would have just released a MOE+ or something with a QD socket built into it. I agree with this. The MOE stock by design wasn't intended to eliminate wiggle. |
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