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Posted: 4/29/2013 12:29:39 PM EDT
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So what is with the 80% lower craze? I am not tracking. I was looking around and saw this:
http://www.rockethub.com/projects/24272-support-ar15-80-lower Is this worth it? |
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80% lowers do not need to be registered, if you complete it yourself. In order to do that, you will need to mill the FCG pocket and drill the holes for the trigger and hammer pin. You can buy a jig for that or if you have access to a machine shop and CNC, you can plug in a program. Its hard to say if that website is worth it. They are very very cheap, but keep in mind that is a start up website. They are trying to get funds to start making 80s. They could get all their start up money in 3 months, or 3 years, and you will have to wait (out of pocket) until then. Might be worth finding a company that is already up and going. It will prob be in the $115-175 dollar range though.
Edit: did not see they have already exceeded their goal. If you think you are capable of completing a lower, give it a try. Might be worth $36 |
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Quoted: The deal is - According to BATFE rules serfs are currently allowed to build firearms for their own use, for now. You can use a 'kit' or partially built components, the major one being the 'receiver' the piece that is serialized and tracked by a gun mfgr. So, by somebody doing most of the 'difficult' machining, and you finishing up with the simpler/cosmetic stuff, you are still 'building' it. And for your own use, the receiver does not have to be serialized, or recorded into the firearms tracing system, at least on the federal level.So what is with the 80% lower craze? I am not tracking. I was looking around and saw this: http://www.rockethub.com/projects/24272-support-ar15-80-lower Is this worth it? Depending what State you live in, and I dont know what State 'USA' is, so you will have to do your own research as to whether you are allowed to possess this type of firearm after you have built it, it may or may not be legal to do so. Some States have made AR style firearms verboten, others States, they just have to be registered. Just because you built it, doesn't mean you can possess it, I mean legally. Of course, what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes, ...................etc. As you choose to not display your home State, I cannot provide more specifics. There is a wealth of info on teh interwebs ........................ |
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By Federal law, you may make your own guns (with some exceptions) if the gun is only meant for you, so it cannot be sold.
People like the concept of "80 percenters" because it takes AR building to a whole new level, but more importantly there is no ATF Form 4473 and no possible state registration. It's what the ATF calls a "ghost gun," a gun that doesn't exist -or at least a gun they have no way of knowing exists. It doesn't need a serial number, you make it yourself, and it's an "off the radar" gun. With concerns of possible registration and confiscation in the future, or privacy issues, it's a solution many people are starting to use to make their own guns, but especially ARs. You can get a jig that requires only a dremel to complete the lower if you're that desperate, and there are some machine shops (at least around here) that already have the AR15 receiver program on their CNC machine, you just pay by the hour to rent out the use of their machine and you are the person actually pressing the "start" button. One of my co-workers in the gun shop built an 80 percent AR lower and it's actually pretty cool. He ordered the lower and then took it to a machine shop that let him press "start," creating a functional lower. It works flawlessly, but now he just has to get it coated. He's a little apprehensive about driving around with it because it has no serial number, maker, or maker location as any "real" gun should, so if he gets pulled over and it comes to a vehicle search, the cops will be wondering about a gun with no serial number -they've been trained to look for guns with no numbers. Many cops I work with didn't even know that you can make 80 percenters. I want to make one for a 1911, but the AR seems a little easier as of now, but we'll see what happens. |
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One other benefit of a 80% is you are free to engrave whatever you want,
I'm working on retro projects right now and being able to accurately reproduce The engravings is a plus. The downside is you have to get it finished, you also May have to strip a upper to match. IMHO , you won't save any money on a 80%, not once you take in initial cost, Engravings, finishing and you're time to mill it. But the ability to personalize it has outweighed the cost for me |
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