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Posted: 2/8/2013 6:38:44 PM EDT
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I have done lots of research in regards to selecting my first flash hider and I came to the conclusion that vortex and aac blackout have the more popular review. So I ask to you all, which would you prefer and or have experience with? Also which models do you all like? I have a 16" barrel and don't want anything too long either, I'm trying to keep it as short as possible.
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they're about the same
rumor has it the 3 prong aac is stronger and that some of the vortex's have bent when someone had tripped carrying their rifle i can't really prove either, i hear the aac is kinda tough to drill through though oh and there have been some vortex's that have lost their tings although i'm not sure of the circumstances i have a vortex mainly because it was the same price and available at that moment |
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I went with the Smith Vortex after watching a number of videos on U Tube. But it's a close call either way and you can't go wrong with either one. Pick the one YOU like. I must have seen entirely different comparisons on YouTube, as I continued to see the AAC Blackout edge out the Smith Vortex nearly every time. Mind you, it was close, but the AAC got the edge in the vast majority. |
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I run both, mostly Vortex.
I have no preference since I have no can. I shot a bunch yesterday and did not notice any difference in sound/ring (wearing my electronic ear pro). They are both very good choices, and I can see no FH differences in my shooting in low light. A2 is ok, but either of the ones mentioned are much better at flash hiding. Things change, improvements are made. |
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they're about the same rumor has it the 3 prong aac is stronger and that some of the vortex's have bent when someone had tripped carrying their rifle i can't really prove either, i hear the aac is kinda tough to drill through though oh and there have been some vortex's that have lost their tings although i'm not sure of the circumstances i have a vortex mainly because it was the same price and available at that moment All I run are Vortex's they work great. An A2 at night sucks. Also have you ever tried to drill and pin a Vortex? I have, not going to do it with High Speed drills. They are a bitch, trust me. Carbide, or at the very least Cobalt. |
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I have done lots of research in regards to selecting my first flash hider and I came to the conclusion that vortex and aac blackout have the more popular review. So I ask to you all, which would you prefer and or have experience with? Also which models do you all like? I have a 16" barrel and don't want anything too long either, I'm trying to keep it as short as possible. Thanks in advance guys. I just dont get why spend all that money when the A2 works just as well or the 25$ Phantoms thats work even better than the A2 No I can see if you run a suppressor and want a better FH |
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I have done lots of research in regards to selecting my first flash hider and I came to the conclusion that vortex and aac blackout have the more popular review. So I ask to you all, which would you prefer and or have experience with? Also which models do you all like? I have a 16" barrel and don't want anything too long either, I'm trying to keep it as short as possible. Thanks in advance guys. I just dont get why spend all that money when the A2 works just as well or the 25$ Phantoms thats work even better than the A2 No I can see if you run a suppressor and want a better FH BUT, the A2 does not work anywhere near as well. And the AAC nor Vortex cost that much. I pulled several Phantoms off my rifles, they work ok- I just don't like cheap things, I guess. It's all about freedom of choice also... |
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I have done lots of research in regards to selecting my first flash hider and I came to the conclusion that vortex and aac blackout have the more popular review. So I ask to you all, which would you prefer and or have experience with? Also which models do you all like? I have a 16" barrel and don't want anything too long either, I'm trying to keep it as short as possible. Thanks in advance guys. I just dont get why spend all that money when the A2 works just as well or the 25$ Phantoms thats work even better than the A2 No I can see if you run a suppressor and want a better FH Don't shoot much in low light. or dark conditions. I take it. Nothing like trashing your eyes night vision. Oh yea a Smith vortex is a whole 51-4 dollars. |
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I went with the Smith Vortex after watching a number of videos on U Tube. But it's a close call either way and you can't go wrong with either one. Pick the one YOU like. I must have seen entirely different comparisons on YouTube, as I continued to see the AAC Blackout edge out the Smith Vortex nearly every time. Mind you, it was close, but the AAC got the edge in the vast majority. +1 Keep in mind in every test I've seen the B.E. Meyer's beats all others! |
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Whoa, this is great material guys, it sounds like which ever I find in stock first I should buy. Or maybe get both lol. It seems the model 51t is aac's best seller, but in your opinions which would be shorter? In ref to smith vortex. I don't need 4 or really 2 inches added on to my 16" barrel if I can help it.
I'm also not really able to find any online available. A local gun shop has some but I think they are around $99.99. For aac and $80.00 for vortex |
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Whoa, this is great material guys, it sounds like which ever I find in stock first I should buy. Or maybe get both lol. It seems the model 51t is aac's best seller, but in your opinions which would be shorter? In ref to smith vortex. I don't need 4 or really 2 inches added on to my 16" barrel if I can help it. I'm also not really able to find any online available. A local gun shop has some but I think they are around $99.99. For aac and $80.00 for vortex $99.00 for a 51T Blackout is a O.K. price, if it's not a 51T the price is a ripoff |
| Yeah these gun stores are ridiculous these days,. They mark up everything lol. Their rear troy sight was like $199.00 for the basic one and they wanted 989 for a standard upper, hand guard and 1/9 non chrome lined 16" barrel. No iron or a2 included or ch and bcg |
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It's also nearly 4" long! The length is part of what makes it such an efficient flash suppressor, but that thing is da'gone long. 
I have two, one of which is an NT4 mount prototype, and I can't bring myself to put it on a barrel longer than 10.5". Great flash suppressor - but probably given the performance of the Blackout and Vortex, you'd be better off getting the extra inch of barrel than the flash suppressor. That being said - if I ever build a dedicated NV rig - that'll be the flash suppressor that goes on it. ~Augee |
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Fine, I'll be the contrarian.
Have you considered a surefire? They are quite compatible with suppressors, I believe. If you're open to something other than the 3-prong style, what about a dynacomp, battlecomp or a PWS FSC 556? I thought about the FSC556 for awhile, but I eventually got a BCE2.0 for my 16" so I'm gtg if I can get my hands on a gemtech one day. If you know you want a suppressor one day, it's probably best to find a muzzle device that works with the can you have in mind, or works with several. I don't know how much advantage either one of those flash suppressors have over an A2 of phantom for pure flash suppression. Unless you have a night shoot planned you probably won't notice any difference. And if you do, any can is the best type of flash suppressor. |
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If you're not ready to buy the can immediately, I avoid the FA-series mounts as Surefire is discontinuing them in favor of the SOCOM series suppressors and SOCOM style mounts. The commercially available versions are three-prong derivations of the B. E. Meyers design.
~Augee |
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I'm not sure honestly as far as a can goes, I'm still pretty new to this all. Yeah, cans are a little intimidating and a bit of a commitment/investment due to the $ and time involved in procurement. They also tend to be correlated with a desire for an SBR, but that evidence is not totally settled yet...
There are lots of suppressor options out there for .223/5.56. I don't have a suppressor, but Gemtech, AAC, Silencer co, and Surefire are some of the big names. If you were interested in a suppressed pistol, I'd suggest an Silencer Co Osprey. I'm saving up for an FNX-45 tac in the near future, hopefully, on my way to a set-up like this http://www.impactguns.com/Data/Default/Images/uploads/NFA/fnp45de-silencerco-package1-4.JPG But, I digress.... If you aren't sure what you want, maybe you should get an A2 for now instead of dropping money on something you'll end up potentially replacing (and loosing money on) in the near future. You should be able to find an A2 + crush washer shipped to you for ~$15 from BCM, Midway, or several other sites. There's a suppressor forum that has some really good info: http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/. - Info only, I'm not trying to shill anything. Quoted:
Yes I do plan on getting a suppressor in the future for sure but, I have heard mix reviews of sure fire's. That g3a3 looks nice, what's msrp on that thing Which G3A3 are you talking about? [Note: I've been in the game and on this forum for awhile. I was contributing a lot at TOS - mostly using tapatalk-, but the atmosphere over there leaves something to be desired.] |
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