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1/28/2013 3:03:33 PM EDT
http://www.blackrivertactical.com/store.html#!/~/product/id=8341834
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/PRI-MSTN-QC-Brake-p/pri%20qc%20comp%2005-0089b.htm

I am putting together an AR to hunt with.  I don't care about muzzle flash, how ever wouldn't mind a little bit of brake effect.  The biggest concern is noise to shooter.  I want to be able to take shots while hunting without hearing protection.  Of the two comps above would I be better off with a thread protector?  Ultimately I'd like to get a suppressor but that is going to take some time.

1/28/2013 3:07:55 PM EDT
[#1]
Hello,

I am not aware of any muzzle device (other than suppressors) that will provide for hearing safe use without ear pro... And I don't think such an animal exists.
1/28/2013 3:51:23 PM EDT
[#2]
so would a thread protector be best?  I am not talking about numerous shots at a range.  Just the occasional shot in the woods.
1/28/2013 4:50:26 PM EDT
[#3]
The Noveske KX3 flaming pig may be what you want to look into for projecting the noise out front. A suppressor is what you need, but if not an option, check out the KX3.
1/28/2013 5:23:58 PM EDT
[#4]



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I want to be able to take shots while hunting without hearing protection.  



the only answer to this w/o hearing damage is a can, else just get a couple ear plugs.



 
1/28/2013 6:12:18 PM EDT
[#5]
Just wear electronic hearing protection.  You can hear better with them than with the naked ear because the microphones amplify normal sounds and block out high impulse sounds.
1/29/2013 8:36:40 AM EDT
[#6]
I think the "quiet" in these compensators is comparing them to other compensators and brakes.

The PRI one I would assume tried to slow the gas down using the extra ports combined with the direction it is directing the gas while the Black River one directs it forward, very much like the Noveske KX3 in basic principle.

Neither of these options would allow you to safely go without hearing protection however (from what I can tell).

If you don't care about flash and if a brake effect isn't top priority, I would say get a basic A2 and put the $55-70 difference into some nice electronic earmuffs.
1/29/2013 5:27:20 PM EDT
[#7]
While I am not disagreeing with the need for hearing pro (I fully understand the need, as I wear double hearing pro on the job and take yearly hearing test).  I had some more thoughts on this today.  Any sort of brake/comp with open baffles or holes will cause the sound to reflect back towards the shooter.  The sound leaving the open areas spreads spherically, so if you can see a hole sound can travel back towards you.  A thread protector would be better than these types if the objective was to focus the sound down range.  I do think the flaming pig type ones might be a tad quieter and focus prevent a little more sound from being directed towards the shooter.  Once the sound waves reach the muzzle opening they'll spread spherically only to hit the walls of the flash suppressor.  Then they'll bounce around but in a direction away from the shooter.  Once they leave the flash suppressor there will be spherical spreading again, but I think some of the bouncing internally will cause losses (destructive canceling).  Just some thoughts, bottom line I know I'll still need hearing pro.
1/29/2013 5:30:01 PM EDT
[#8]
You are overthinking the shit out of this. Guns are loud. Wear ear-pro.
1/29/2013 7:03:11 PM EDT
[#9]
I wouldnt worry about it. You will take one shot, you need to be able to hear when hunting. So just dont worry about it. In other words, deal with it.
1/30/2013 2:14:36 PM EDT
[#10]
Try a thread protector and see what you think. It's only a few bucks for a test.I tried cause I figured I had a 16" barrel so why add 1.5 inch flash hider to it? Also figured a Mini 14 doesn't have a flash hider and it shoots the same ammo. All I can tell you is the flash hider (stock RRA) went back on after the first 20 rounds. I was shooting on a sunny day and the flash was a big surprise. VERY obvious to me as the shooter.
1/30/2013 2:21:41 PM EDT
[#11]
Levang comp?
1/30/2013 4:22:16 PM EDT
[#12]
well I bought a can style (like the flamming pig).  I needed something, that was why I brought it up.  I realize I was over analyzing a bit, but why not try to think about it.  Someday I'll get my stuff together and get a can, and it will all be for nothing.
1/30/2013 4:53:40 PM EDT
[#13]
I use the ear plugs with a small sound activated insert that does a pretty good job of moderating the shot sound when hunting. Before the shot you can pretty much hear normally.They are also able to be cleaned and re-used. They are only about $10.
1/30/2013 5:07:24 PM EDT
[#14]
I have never had an issue hunting with a .223 where it was causing me discomfort to shoot once or twice in the field without hearing protection. I wouldn't worry about it.

I would think that just about every brake out there is designed to pull the rifle forward by directing gasses backward, therefor you're going to have a tough time finding any that would direct noise away from the shooter while counteracting recoil. I would look at some Linear breaks as others have suggested. The Levang and Troy Linear brakes come to mind.

Coincidentally, I just purchased a Troy Claymore Linear brake, but I won't be able to try it out for a month or so.
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