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12/11/2012 3:19:31 PM EDT
I recently purchased a Colt 6920 carbine roll marked Colts Law Enforcemnt Carbine. It looks to be identical to the Sporter carbine. I assume they are the same with the exception of the roll marks. When I got it home I noticed the gas key wasn't staked in. I attempted to contact Colt, still waiting for a reply. I took it back to the shop I purchased it at and their inhouse smith staked it in for me.

So is any one else seeing colt LE6920's coming out of the factory without the gas key being staked? the smith suggested it was a common occurence, so is staking the gas key necessary? and did the inhouse smith viod my warranty.
12/11/2012 3:23:27 PM EDT
[#1]
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I recently purchased a Colt 6920 carbine roll marked Colts Law Enforcemnt Carbine. It looks to be identical to the Sporter carbine. I assume they are the same with the exception of the roll marks. When I got it home I noticed the gas key wasn't staked in. I attempted to contact Colt, still waiting for a reply. I took it back to the shop I purchased it at and their inhouse smith staked it in for me.

So is any one else seeing colt LE6920's coming out of the factory without the gas key being staked? the smith suggested it was a common occurence, so is staking the gas key necessary? and did the inhouse smith viod my warranty.


You are lying.  A Colt would never leave the factory in less than perfect condition.  

I am kidding but you may piss off a lot of people here by saying that your Colt was not properly assembled from the factory.
12/11/2012 3:25:52 PM EDT
[#2]
Am I mistaken or is staking only a recent "big deal". I have heard that ten or  so years ago no one cared.
12/11/2012 3:29:49 PM EDT
[#3]





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Am I mistaken or is staking only a recent "big deal". I have heard that ten or  so years ago no one cared.



No, it should be staked. Did you buy it new from a dealer, or off an individual. Can you take pics?

 






Also, what are the markings on the Carrier and the Bolt itself? I'm not saying a BCG could have slipped through and not got staked, but with Colt BCGs bringing a premium, I wouldn't be surprised if someone swapped it out to sell it.




ETA: I'd hate to think someone would do that, but there are some crappy people out there.

 
12/11/2012 4:09:15 PM EDT
[#4]
It's new! right off the dealers shelf and I have no reason to assume the bolt is/was from another AR. Could the dealer have swapped them out possibly, yet not likely. They also had a Colt Sporter there and the gas key was staked on it...so I don't know. A fact is a fact and the fact is thats the way it came to me unstaked. It's marked with a C on the left side of the carrier, has MPC etched into the top of the bolt and a white dot painted onto the bottom of the bolt. Hope that helps.

I sent Colt an Email and pictures...still no reply. As it stands now, I'm waiting for a reply from Colt and will be more than glad to ship it back to them and have it checked.

Just so you know...I'm new to AR's and this purchase was based on recommendations and not experience. In my effort to learn and become familiar with the platform I found issues instead...just my luck...lol

I hope the smith in his effort to make the customer happy didn't didn't void any warranties and if need be it can be sent back to colt under warranty...
12/11/2012 4:43:27 PM EDT
[#5]
Its a non issue. Staking is simple and any good gun shop can do it for you. Go shoot the hell out of it. I get a laugh out of some of the guys I know who freak about stuff like this. If youre not burning thousands of rounds you will never notice that it wasnt staked. Even if you do go through cases of ammo, chances are something else will fail before the key.

Im not making light of the fact that you bought something, expected a certain level of production and did not get it. It sucks. All of my carriers are dtaked...but I would not freak if one were not. Call or email Colt. Or, just go get it done locally.
12/11/2012 5:07:24 PM EDT
[#6]
this has been brought up a few times, keys not being staked from colt.  i think the conclusion was that its a new thing colt was doing and that they were using some type of loctite compound. or a large batch could have gotten through without the keys being staked i suppose
12/11/2012 5:18:12 PM EDT
[#7]
I got a un-staked BCG from LMT a year ago, and instead of calling their CS,  I staked the BCG with a MOACKS tool. Never had a problem with that BCG after 2,000 rounds. Sometimes very good manufacturers such as Colt and LMT can goof.
12/11/2012 5:28:55 PM EDT
[#8]
Staked, is nice and I hope colt will help you out.

But obsessing over it probably isn't needed.  I hope the rest of the TDP never gets out and becomes public knowledge.  It covers everything.  People will then stress about the spring type in their front sight post detent, of the type of aluminum used to build their charging handle and the tolerance specs of their handguards.
12/11/2012 5:41:19 PM EDT
[#9]
I've never had a gas key come loose.  I do recall some Frankenguns that had non-staked keys.  I wound up staking them myself with a nail set punch.  

Sucks that a Colt came out non-staked but it's not a huge issue.
12/12/2012 4:00:50 PM EDT
[#10]
Guess I'll see how well the local smiths staking job holds up. Would have preferred Colt fixing it...and sending it back to colt is still an option...we'll see. If it holds up great if not, I just won't use that smith again.
12/12/2012 4:05:21 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Guess I'll see how well the local smiths staking job holds up. Would have preferred Colt fixing it...and sending it back to colt is still an option...we'll see. If it holds up great if not, I just won't use that smith again.


Given that I'd be willing to venture that staking carrier keys is a simpler procedure than timing a muzzle device with a crush washer:

1. Ensure screws are tight
2. Displace metal enough to make solid contact with bolts
3. ?
4. Profit

...I suspect you'll be good to go.  

~Augee
12/14/2012 10:50:57 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Guess I'll see how well the local smiths staking job holds up. Would have preferred Colt fixing it...and sending it back to colt is still an option...we'll see. If it holds up great if not, I just won't use that smith again.


Given that I'd be willing to venture that staking carrier keys is a simpler procedure than timing a muzzle device with a crush washer:

1. Ensure screws are tight
2. Displace metal enough to make solid contact with bolts
3. ?
4. Profit

...I suspect you'll be good to go.  

~Augee


Not to be rude...vut how is timing a muzzle device hard? Twist until its in the correct position...or have I been doing wrong?

12/14/2012 11:15:55 PM EDT
[#13]
Think he was trying to imply neither are hard..
12/14/2012 11:22:12 PM EDT
[#14]
I wonder if they forgot to stake it or they're using the same pressure fit pin for the 6940P on all models
12/15/2012 9:38:33 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I recently purchased a Colt 6920 carbine roll marked Colts Law Enforcemnt Carbine. It looks to be identical to the Sporter carbine. I assume they are the same with the exception of the roll marks. When I got it home I noticed the gas key wasn't staked in. I attempted to contact Colt, still waiting for a reply. I took it back to the shop I purchased it at and their inhouse smith staked it in for me.

So is any one else seeing colt LE6920's coming out of the factory without the gas key being staked? the smith suggested it was a common occurence, so is staking the gas key necessary? and did the inhouse smith viod my warranty.


You are lying.  A Colt would never leave the factory in less than perfect condition.  

I am kidding but you may piss off a lot of people here by saying that your Colt was not properly assembled from the factory.


Historically, if this situation was related to a different manufacturer other than Colt, the AR world would be on fire claiming crappy quality.  If true, just another fine example of SHEOT can happen to the best of them.  Please, no need to pile on a response coming to the aid of Colt... I own three, working to add another.

Try to contact Colt again to see what they recommend.  Otherwise, as several indicated stake it yourself or take it to a smith and have it done.

Congrats on the purchase.

12/15/2012 9:46:30 AM EDT
[#16]
A solution to a non issue.   I'll ask this question again........How many have had these bolts come loose?  My 6920 and 6721 are both staked........too aggressive.
12/15/2012 10:20:46 AM EDT
[#17]
What are the markings on the bolt and/or carrier? Colt could have screwed up but it's 50/50 if someone swapped it out also.
12/15/2012 12:06:30 PM EDT
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What are the markings on the bolt and/or carrier? Colt could have screwed up but it's 50/50 if someone swapped it out also.


If you had taken the time to read through all of the comments he has answered that question already, as it has already been asked.

Don't worry about the gun smith staking the key.  Very easy procedure that you could have watched on youtube and done yourself.
12/15/2012 1:11:50 PM EDT
[#19]
Did you even get the correct "C" marked carrier that is supposed to be in the rifle? The LE6920 I have came with a M16 carrier from the factory. I hve heard of some shady dealers switching out some parts here and there back in the day.
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