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Posted: 10/25/2012 7:17:21 AM EDT
| I'm looking in to buying an ambidextrous safety selector. I've been researching the BADASS. I would like to know which combinations of levers you use as well as do you prefer the standard 90 degree of the 45 degree selectors. I'd like to add that I am right handed so I would be switching from safe to fire with my firing hand thumb and would be switching from fire to safe with my firing hand index finger. Thanks. |
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I'm running the crank and short thin on one of mine and I like it a lot. I think I would go with the crank and hybrid if I could do it over again...oh wait I can with the lever exchange program. The crank is perfect for me on the thumb side, and I think the hybrid would work better on the finger side. My finger misses the short thin sometimes.
Then again, I have the original levers on another rifle and I like them too. I haven't tried the 45 degree stuff yet. My receiver is marked for it though..... |
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I will add that when I shoot with my stock all the way collapsed, it does get very difficult to reach the selector with my thumb, something to do with the angle of my had when I am that close to my chest.
On the flip side if you shot with the stock extended, and your hand in a more traditional shooting position, the longer selectors would be rubbing on your hand... See if you can go to a local gun store and test out a few different setups... Or use that exchange programs BAD has |
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I use the BADASS w/ crank levers on both sides. I tried some of the shorter ones, but they just were not for me. Also, I use the 90* selectors.
They are really nice ambi safety's. Also, love the free lever exchange program so you get to try em out till you find what you like. Duffy is a top notch guy to deal with. |
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I'm looking in to buying an ambidextrous safety selector. I've been researching the BADASS. I would like to know which combinations of levers you use as well as do you prefer the standard 90 degree of the 45 degree selectors. I'd like to add that I am right handed so I would be switching from safe to fire with my firing hand thumb and would be switching from fire to safe with my firing hand index finger. Thanks. With the 45 degree BADASS lever (or I suppose that Noveske selector that another poster mentioned), you could use your thumb to do both. I wasn't sure if I'd like it or not, but I liked the concept and gave it a try. Switching over to a 45 degree selector may have been the best ergonomic improvement I've ever made to my rifle. Going rapidly from SAFE to FIRE and back to SAFE without re-positioning your hands is awesome. -bob |
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Keep in mind if your lower isn't made for a 45* selector you'll have to grind the nub off the selector center which will void your warranty with Battle Arms Development.
I've got a 90* on my current gun and my new build is a 45* lower so I figured I'd give that a shot. On the 90* I use a standard lever on the left side and a thin lever on the right side. Dunno what I'm gonna use on the 45* yet. BAD safeties will be on every gun I build though...they are top notch. |
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Keep in mind if your lower isn't made for a 45* selector you'll have to grind the nub off the selector center which will void your warranty with Battle Arms Development. I've got a 90* on my current gun and my new build is a 45* lower so I figured I'd give that a shot. On the 90* I use a standard lever on the left side and a thin lever on the right side. Dunno what I'm gonna use on the 45* yet. BAD safeties will be on every gun I build though...they are top notch. Thanks, that was going to be my next question. I saw a YouTube video that vaguely alluded towards that you have to modify the 45 degree selector. 90 degrees it is. Thanks for confirming that. Now I just need to figure out what lever combo to use. Keep the suggestions coming. |
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Keep in mind if your lower isn't made for a 45* selector you'll have to grind the nub off the selector center which will void your warranty with Battle Arms Development. I've got a 90* on my current gun and my new build is a 45* lower so I figured I'd give that a shot. On the 90* I use a standard lever on the left side and a thin lever on the right side. Dunno what I'm gonna use on the 45* yet. BAD safeties will be on every gun I build though...they are top notch. Thanks, that was going to be my next question. I saw a YouTube video that vaguely alluded towards that you have to modify the 45 degree selector. 90 degrees it is. Thanks for confirming that. Now I just need to figure out what lever combo to use. I'll give you my honest opinion about that situation though. These BAD safeties are made so bullet proof I really couldn't imagine an issue that would require warranty. I will say when I originally got my 90* it was a little loose and I did end up exchanging the center with them so I don't think I would have been able to do that if the nub was cut off on a 45*. Still, I think when I rebuild my original gun I'll probably just get another 45* and grind it off so I have uniformity between my guns. The nub only serves the purpose of legal protection as it would be a liability for BAD to allow 45* selectors in lowers that weren't marked for 45*. There is no mechanical function of this nub. The issue would be the safety could be deactivated and it could discharge and the shooter could sue because the gun didn't say it was on fire. By putting the nub on there it has to go in correctly marked lowers and if the nub is removed it removes BAD from being responsible. Also keep in mind no matter what lever combo you choose, if you get it and end up not liking you can use their free lever exchange program to swap out your levers until you find a combo that works. |
Thank you guys for your support! 
A little history on the levers. During beta testing, half of the users liked the short, and the other half liked the thin (for the trigger finger side lever), it was not our original intention to produce more than one lever for the "weak side" (one standard for the thumb side, the other for the trigger finger side). Being that opinions split evenly between the short and thin levers, we decided to, in the best AR15.com tradition, to do both, and include both 
Now with seven lever options (eighth coming out by the end of the year), it's not practical to include all of them, but then with the free lever exchange program, there is no need to. We still offer only the three lever kit (for the parkerized selectors), many of our dealers, such as ar15.com, Rainier Arms, Brownells, etc. offer the 2 leverkits. Many of our other selectors, such as Cerakoted, 45 degree BAD-ASS-ST and BAD-CASS-ST, BAD-CASS-SA (semi auto), and BAD-CASS-3P, M16 (select fire) already went to the 2 lever standard, with the third lever as an option. There will be an adjustment for the parkerized selectors, in that the third lever will become optional. The free lever exchange program is designed to take advantage of our selector's fully modular aspect. Flexibility exists not only at the time of purchase, but well after. Like our warranty, the free lever exchange program is life time, unconditional (with the exception of 45 degree selectors, it has legal implications). We will take back levers that are old, used, beat up, painted, etc., for exchange. There have been times when we exchanged levers with users not once, but a few times, and sent not just one, but several levers for them to try out. If you are a Battle Arms customer, you are entitled to lots of perks 
For 45 degree selector customers that eliminated the "lawyer pin" and made it compatible with standard receivers without the 45 degree FIRE engravings, you can still, and always call us for support. The warranty may be voided, we'll still be there for you if you need us 
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Thank you guys for your support!
A little history on the levers. During beta testing, half of the users liked the short, and the other half liked the thin (for the trigger finger side lever), it was not our original intention to produce more than one lever for the "weak side" (one standard for the thumb side, the other for the trigger finger side). Being that opinions split evenly between the short and thin levers, we decided to, in the best AR15.com tradition, to do both, and include both
Now with seven lever options (eighth coming out by the end of the year), it's not practical to include all of them, but then with the free lever exchange program, there is no need to. We still offer only the three lever kit (for the parkerized selectors), many of our dealers, such as ar15.com, Rainier Arms, Brownells, etc. offer the 2 leverkits. Many of our other selectors, such as Cerakoted, 45 degree BAD-ASS-ST and BAD-CASS-ST, BAD-CASS-SA (semi auto), and BAD-CASS-3P, M16 (select fire) already went to the 2 lever standard, with the third lever as an option. There will be an adjustment for the parkerized selectors, in that the third lever will become optional. The free lever exchange program is designed to take advantage of our selector's fully modular aspect. Flexibility exists not only at the time of purchase, but well after. Like our warranty, the free lever exchange program is life time, unconditional. We will take back levers that are old, used, beat up, painted, etc., for exchange. There have been times when we exchanged levers with users not once, but a few times, and sent not just one, but several levers for them to try out. If you are a Battle Arms customer, you are entitled to lots of perks I greatly appreciate your response to my question. You have definitely sold me your safety just by your statements. Thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed response. I will be ordering soon. |
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The "safe" configuration for both 90 and 45 degree selector is standard lever on the thumb side, and short lever on the trigger finger side. All LE agency purchases have been that configuration without fail.
The standard lever is slightly longer and thicker than factory levers. It's on the side that we use more than 90% of the time, so extra leverage is a good thing. Short levers are faster to rotate, but require more force to do it, which may give users the impression the selector is harder to rotate (and they'd be right). Please email me with your shipping information and we will send out the replacement levers, that's it! We don't ask where and when you bought it, or the condition of the lever, our job is to make sure you get what you're happy with.
Our products occupy the top segment of the price and quality chart, with premium product, premium service is mandatory, and we always try to do better than that. You will have all the time you need to evaluate the new lever. Please do not send the lever to be exchanged back to us until you have determined which lever you'd like to keep. We do not impose an arbitrary time frame in which the returning levers must be shipped to us 
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