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10/18/2012 4:24:02 AM EDT
Finally got my first AR setup. I got a Stag Lower and Stag Lower parts kit with stag mil spec buffer tube,stock and parts. PSA Cold Hammer Forged 16 inch chrome lined  1 and 7 twist barrel midlentgh flattop upper with PSA BCG.   Ive purchased OD Green Magpul Front Mid Length Handguard, OD Green MOE+ Grip, Magpul Front Grip with rails, OD Green Magpul Rear Back Up Sight MBUS Gen 2 Model,Some OD Green Magpul Pmags and I have the OD Green Magpul MOE rear stock and Trigger Gurad enroute now. Got a custom NDZ engraved charging handle.Also have a Barska AC10984 - 1x30 IR Tac Dot Scope ..   I believe this setup will work great for me My uses will be the normal Home Defense/Target SHooting..  I just got my upper last night so today I'm going to field strip it clean and lube and add all of my accesories on to it.

http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m591/rgill2728/E76D735E-0EEC-4F3B-B953-55E36057E4B1-31014-0000055AC06C972E.jpg

http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m591/rgill2728/0B27EF45-ED9B-4E82-80C0-BCCCA3BD03D3-31014-0000055AAB026F84.jpg

http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m591/rgill2728/58720B5E-5101-43E4-B907-6722B024C07C-31014-0000055A0CC27DBA.jpg
10/18/2012 4:32:10 AM EDT
[#1]
Nice...but it's a shame to mount a POS Barska scope on it.
 
10/18/2012 4:46:42 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Nice...but it's a shame to mount a POS Barska scope on it.  


Well my first scope I dont think it is to bad brand new $150 dollar scope for 30 bucks from a family member who sold there AR before being able to use it made my mind up.lol    If it sucks like you say it will then thats fine ill sell it and move on..

Thanks
10/18/2012 5:14:44 AM EDT
[#3]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Nice...but it's a shame to mount a POS Barska scope on it.  




Well my first scope I dont think it is to bad brand new $150 dollar scope for 30 bucks from a family member who sold there AR before being able to use it made my mind up.lol    If it sucks like you say it will then thats fine ill sell it and move on..



Thanks


practice with irons then



 
10/18/2012 5:31:57 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Nice...but it's a shame to mount a POS Barska scope on it.  


Well my first scope I dont think it is to bad brand new $150 dollar scope for 30 bucks from a family member who sold there AR before being able to use it made my mind up.lol    If it sucks like you say it will then thats fine ill sell it and move on..

Thanks

practice with irons then
 


I will be using my irons along time intill im comfortable with them. The scope was only purchased because it was a hell of a good deal and if I didnt buy it he would have sold it to someone else so I jumped on it just so I have one.
10/18/2012 6:34:52 AM EDT
[#5]
I say, if the scope holds a zero and does what you want it to do, use it. Learn how to use irons as well obviously.

If you're shooting at paper ~100 yards away and the scope holds zero fine and doesn't shit out on you, there's not a problem. No point in spending more money on the optic than the rifle IMO.

Edit: I have no experience with Barksa optics. Primary arms makes a good budget optic if you ever want to switch it out.
10/18/2012 6:41:20 AM EDT
[#6]



Quoted:


I say, if the scope holds a zero and does what you want it to do, use it. Learn how to use irons as well obviously.



If you're shooting at paper ~100 yards away and the scope holds zero fine and doesn't shit out on you, there's not a problem. No point in spending more money on the optic than the rifle IMO.



Edit: I have no experience with Barksa optics. Primary arms makes a good budget optic if you ever want to switch it out.


Who suggested that?



Obviously.



 
10/18/2012 6:42:32 AM EDT
[#7]
Congrats on the new rifle!  Now get a better scope
10/18/2012 6:50:13 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I say, if the scope holds a zero and does what you want it to do, use it. Learn how to use irons as well obviously.

If you're shooting at paper ~100 yards away and the scope holds zero fine and doesn't shit out on you, there's not a problem. No point in spending more money on the optic than the rifle IMO.

Edit: I have no experience with Barksa optics. Primary arms makes a good budget optic if you ever want to switch it out.

Who suggested that?

Obviously.
 


I did say IMO didn't I? So I guess I suggested that.
10/18/2012 7:34:01 AM EDT
[#9]
For a Long-Range rifle, the optic is usually more expensive than the rifle by a factor of 2 to 5.






For a .223 or other shorter ranged rifle, I don't see the need to spend more than $1k on any optic. You can get fine 1-4x or 1-5x optics with FFP and Bullet-drop illuminated reticles for this or less.







Optics are one area where you get what you pay for... mostly.

 
10/18/2012 7:59:30 AM EDT
[#10]
thanks..  I figured id shouldnt have said anything about the scope I got since I know its not the Magical EOtech or any other 500 dollar plus optic..  Oh well its not that I dont have the money to buy one and I prob will one day but being my first one I have to figure out what scope style I like before I drop the dime  on those prices.. Maybe I like a reflex style or an acog or a scope who knows..
10/18/2012 8:05:28 AM EDT
[#11]
His optic will do fine as long as it holds.  Not everyone is an optic junkie.  For the range and home, if it holds, it doesnt need to be a $1K.  I have an NcStar 3-9 built for a 223.  Its cheap but holds well.  And I can shoot and thats what matters.   Practice over price for now.
10/18/2012 8:09:31 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
thanks..  I figured id shouldnt have said anything about the scope I got since I know its not the Magical EOtech or any other 500 dollar plus optic..  Oh well its not that I dont have the money to buy one and I prob will one day but being my first one I have to figure out what scope style I like before I drop the dime  on those prices.. Maybe I like a reflex style or an acog or a scope who knows..


Smart man.  I have an ACOG on one rifle and two others have variable scopes.  I like both, but they are definitely different shooting experiences.  If you are going to only have one optic take your time!  Go to the store and look through them.  Leave, think about them and repeat a few times and imagine using each when you are shooting your rifle.  I did that for nearly a month before picking up my ACOG.  I was debating between an ACOG, Eotech and Aimpoint.  My leanings were for an Eotech but ended up with the ACOG and am very happy about it.  However, like I said I have normal scopes and wouldn't not have one.  Double negatives are awful to use, but I think you get what I'm saying.  Fortunately, they make quick release mounts so I can interchange all of my optics
10/18/2012 8:09:56 AM EDT
[#13]
The reviews on the Barska are like Primary Arms decent to very good   they say they hold zero extremely well and the only thing is the reticle may not be as clear as the expensive scopes etc..
10/18/2012 8:13:10 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
thanks..  I figured id shouldnt have said anything about the scope I got since I know its not the Magical EOtech or any other 500 dollar plus optic..  Oh well its not that I dont have the money to buy one and I prob will one day but being my first one I have to figure out what scope style I like before I drop the dime  on those prices.. Maybe I like a reflex style or an acog or a scope who knows..


Smart man.  I have an ACOG on one rifle and two others have variable scopes.  I like both, but they are definitely different shooting experiences.  If you are going to only have one optic take your time!  Go to the store and look through them.  Leave, think about them and repeat a few times and imagine using each when you are shooting your rifle.  I did that for nearly a month before picking up my ACOG.  I was debating between an ACOG, Eotech and Aimpoint.  My leanings were for an Eotech but ended up with the ACOG and am very happy about it.  However, like I said I have normal scopes and wouldn't not have one.  Double negatives are awful to use, but I think you get what I'm saying.  Fortunately, they make quick release mounts so I can interchange all of my optics


Yeap that is my plan a buddy of mine I havent shot with in a long time is going to start shooting with me and he has an EoTech on one of his AR's so im going to give his a try and I plan on going to my local gun shops to try others out.. It took me a month to decide what upper I wanted so itll prob take me two months on the scopes
10/18/2012 9:38:50 AM EDT
[#15]



Quoted:


His optic will do fine as long as it holds.  Not everyone is an optic junkie.  For the range and home, if it holds, it doesnt need to be a $1K.  I have an NcStar 3-9 built for a 223.  Its cheap but holds well.  And I can shoot and thats what matters.   Practice over price for now.


I'm in agreement with you. There are many GOOD+ optics out there in the $200-$400 price range. Nikon makes excellent scopes, some of which are very inexpensive (3-9x40 Prostaff, $120ish).

 



If it holds zero and the glass is clear, then use it.
10/18/2012 11:32:48 AM EDT
[#16]



Quoted:


The reviews on the Barska are like Primary Arms decent to very good   they say they hold zero extremely well and the only thing is the reticle may not be as clear as the expensive scopes etc..


"The Reviews" uh? Well do you know there are people that write reviews for products all over the internet that get paid for it. They never use the product, just write reviews.



And others are written by idiots. Sure they are fine if you only mount them and take a few pictures of the gun. Most likely even hold up to a little shooting but they will fail.



If it's a Barska or a NCStar you can be sure of one thing, if it's not junk today it will be soon. They are built of the cheapest materials and most of the red dots I have seen apart have glue holding most of it together. Let it set in the hot sun for a while and then shoot it and see how that works out.



Do a search here for Barska and NCStar.



Here's one;

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_18/584774_BARSKA__new_four_letter_word___Learn_from_my_cheapness_and_ignorance.html
 
10/18/2012 12:02:53 PM EDT
[#17]
OlCrow is right, BUT use the scope you have and have fun with it. When/if it fails, make sure to replace it with something of a bit higher quality is all. @$30 it's a good stop-gap. @150 you could do better in a basic Bushnell or Nikon. Have a great day!
10/18/2012 12:06:21 PM EDT
[#18]
nice rifle

barska is piece of shit. dont pay for shit...$30 or not. its shit.

hope it shoots well for you
10/18/2012 2:54:16 PM EDT
[#19]
Yea I never said it will last long but $30 bucks for it. If it breaks after two range trips I wouldn't care it would just give me the proof that they are junk. If it lasts two years with 2000 rounds down range and its accurate then fine by me. I'm happy with my choice right now and that's what matters. Now with that said  In no way would I pay any more for a Barska.  I originally planned on a Burris fast fire for $199 to try out first but the this deal came by me first  so oh well.. Abouth talk about the optic choice and more about my new gun how's that sound.  Here are my ups I added today after work.  Let me know what y'all think.




11/27/2012 12:38:41 AM EDT
[#20]
Heres my baby now with some changes


PSA 16 inch Mid Length Cold Hammer Forged Chrome lined upper.
Stag Complete Lower
JP Enterprises AR-15 REDUCED POWER Trigger Spring Kit
JoeBob's Trigger Adjuster
Magpul Moe OD stock
Magpul OD Moe + grip
Magpul OD Rear MBUS
Magpul OD Hand Guard
Magpul OD Front Hand Grip
Magpul OD Pmags
Magpul Rail Pieces
Magpul B.A.D Lever not installed yet
Striker Industries OD Trigger Guard
Primary Arms Micro Dot
Tapco Sling mount
NZD Custom Engraved Zombie Charging Handle
Black Hills Tac Single Point Sling (not pictured)
11/27/2012 2:53:25 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Heres my baby now with some changes


PSA 16 inch Mid Length Cold Hammer Forged Chrome lined upper.
Stag Complete Lower
JP Enterprises AR-15 REDUCED POWER Trigger Spring Kit
JoeBob's Trigger Adjuster
Magpul Moe OD stock
Magpul OD Moe + grip
Magpul OD Rear MBUS
Magpul OD Hand Guard
Magpul OD Front Hand Grip
Magpul OD Pmags
Magpul Rail Pieces
Magpul B.A.D Lever not installed yet
Striker Industries OD Trigger Guard
Primary Arms Micro Dot
Tapco Sling mount
NZD Custom Engraved Zombie Charging Handle
Black Hills Tac Single Point Sling (not pictured)
http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m591/rgill2728/78C9F3D4-6A8C-4F29-B3BD-887E65E079D2-1104-000000269CE10A43.jpg


VERY nice stick!!! Sweet optic.
11/29/2012 10:37:44 PM EDT
[#22]
thank you Billy Jack
11/30/2012 12:44:04 PM EDT
[#23]
I liked it from the beginning. Very nice.
11/30/2012 7:14:00 PM EDT
[#24]
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I liked it from the beginning. Very nice.



12/1/2012 2:30:16 AM EDT
[#25]
Congrats...

Echoing the others...consider a different optic.
12/1/2012 4:22:20 AM EDT
[#26]
looks great man!

i've got a primary arms micro dot on my AR for now too.  Its been great, holds zero, dot is pretty crisp.  I got it so I could shoot with it until I save up for an aimpoint, which is now on the way, and then the PA micro dot is going on my m&p 15-22 so i have a similarly set up .22 to train on (since i can't afford boat loads of 5.56)
12/1/2012 5:49:01 AM EDT
[#27]
Nice. Welcome to the club. Unfortunately, black rifle disease is contagious. You will have more. The 15/22 and the Stag are just the start. Soon you will want a 9mm or an SBR or a long range set up......
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