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Posted: 2/14/2012 1:09:13 PM EDT
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Are Wilson Combat rifles worth the extra price of admission you pay? I'm looking at one in either 5.56 or 6.8. I'd love to hear from someone who actually owns one or who has shot one. Thank you! |
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No, they aren't even mil spec in many areas. Your money will be better spent on a Colt, LMT, Daniel Defense, Noveske or BCM. What does that matter? Mil spec is a standard that the military sets on rifles to be built to so everything is uniform. Does not make them better just means they are to be built to a specification. Wilson Combat makes a great rifle they are tailored different though to be much more precision rifle. |
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I'd love to hear from someone who actually owns one or who has shot one. Thank you! I've owned a few of their AR15 components and been very satisfied with the quality, I also just picked up one of their 300BLK uppers for a project. The upper is like a sculptured piece of art, which may or may not be important to some people, but to others it may be top of the list. I'll beat this thing up and make it ugly eventually, but its one of the nicest finished AR15 URGs I've ever seen. |
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No, they aren't even mil spec in many areas. Your money will be better spent on a Colt, LMT, Daniel Defense, Noveske or BCM. What does that matter? Mil spec is a standard that the military sets on rifles to be built to so everything is uniform. Does not make them better just means they are to be built to a specification. Wilson Combat makes a great rifle they are tailored different though to be much more precision rifle. Yes, it matters actually when it comes to the M4, mil spec is typically better than commercial specs on most levels. |
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I would say the Wilson Combat is comparable to the Smith and Wesson M&P 15. But at $2,200  , I would go with the Smith and Wesson.
If you want to spend 2,200 dollars, at least spend it on a rifle that's worth it. You could buy 2 Colt SP6920s for that price. Or 1 Colt, lots of mags, ammo and a sweet optic. |
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No, they aren't even mil spec in many areas. Your money will be better spent on a Colt, LMT, Daniel Defense, Noveske or BCM. What does that matter? Mil spec is a standard that the military sets on rifles to be built to so everything is uniform. Does not make them better just means they are to be built to a specification. Wilson Combat makes a great rifle they are tailored different though to be much more precision rifle. Yes, it matters actually when it comes to the M4, mil spec is typically better than commercial specs on most levels. So do you think that a Colt is better than a KAC, or DD, or BCM? After all, Colt is more milspec....Milspec is the minimum acceptable in terms of quality (not talking about measurements here...). The companies mentioned follow milspec on measurements....making sure the items are within specs, but they also go above and beyong on quality and finish of some components. |
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No, they aren't even mil spec in many areas. Your money will be better spent on a Colt, LMT, Daniel Defense, Noveske or BCM. What does that matter? Mil spec is a standard that the military sets on rifles to be built to so everything is uniform. Does not make them better just means they are to be built to a specification. Wilson Combat makes a great rifle they are tailored different though to be much more precision rifle. this all day long. i'm so sick of this mil-spec crap. if you want a Wilson rifle and have the $$ then get one. they make great stuff!!! |
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Wilson is good
For the price i could get more from daniel defense Or spike... i have had multiple brands and have shot even more You get what you pay for up to a point Like what was pointed out figure out what you want post it And go from there you will be pointed on the right path Or be a nut swinger and buy somthing because a name is on it |
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complete rifles no. not compared to other rifles in that price range, which ones in particular are you looking at? Possibly we can show you rifles that compare. Their barrels are an excellent buy though. 1/9 twist barrels
I would say the Wilson Combat is comparable to the Smith and Wesson M&P 15. But at 2,200 , I would go with the Smith and Wesson.
If you want to spend 2,200 dollars, at least spend it on a rifle that's worth it. You could buy 2 Colt SP6920s for that price. Or 1 Colt, lots of mags, ammo and a sweet optic. yeah...the 1/9 vs. 1/7 argument holds no water either since most everyone that shoot AR's don't shoot anything over 69gr. |
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No, they aren't even mil spec in many areas. Your money will be better spent on a Colt, LMT, Daniel Defense, Noveske or BCM. What does that matter? Mil spec is a standard that the military sets on rifles to be built to so everything is uniform. Does not make them better just means they are to be built to a specification. Wilson Combat makes a great rifle they are tailored different though to be much more precision rifle. Yes, it matters actually when it comes to the M4, mil spec is typically better than commercial specs on most levels. So do you think that a Colt is better than a KAC, or DD, or BCM? After all, Colt is more milspec....Milspec is the minimum acceptable in terms of quality (not talking about measurements here...). The companies mentioned follow milspec on measurements....making sure the items are within specs, but they also go above and beyong on quality and finish of some components. Did you not see that I mentioned those companies in my first post? Should probably have double check your info before posting that. Mil spec is a minimum standard, those companies meet that standard. Not sure how else it can be explained or what is confusing you... |
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complete rifles no. not compared to other rifles in that price range, which ones in particular are you looking at? Possibly we can show you rifles that compare. Their barrels are an excellent buy though. 1/9 twist barrels
I would say the Wilson Combat is comparable to the Smith and Wesson M&P 15. But at 2,200 , I would go with the Smith and Wesson.
If you want to spend 2,200 dollars, at least spend it on a rifle that's worth it. You could buy 2 Colt SP6920s for that price. Or 1 Colt, lots of mags, ammo and a sweet optic. yeah...the 1/9 vs. 1/7 argument holds no water either since most everyone that shoot AR's don't shoot anything over 69gr. Glad to see you are speaking on behalf of "everyone", and stating what kind of ammo everyone shoots. I shoot 77grain ammo..... 
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No, they aren't even mil spec in many areas. Your money will be better spent on a Colt, LMT, Daniel Defense, Noveske or BCM. What specifically is not mil spec on the Wilsons? Sorry, for the thread drift but I am curious. They sell a drop in trigger and I assume that it will work with most lowers. |
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complete rifles no. not compared to other rifles in that price range, which ones in particular are you looking at? Possibly we can show you rifles that compare. Their barrels are an excellent buy though. 1/9 twist barrels
I would say the Wilson Combat is comparable to the Smith and Wesson M&P 15. But at 2,200 , I would go with the Smith and Wesson.
If you want to spend 2,200 dollars, at least spend it on a rifle that's worth it. You could buy 2 Colt SP6920s for that price. Or 1 Colt, lots of mags, ammo and a sweet optic. yeah...the 1/9 vs. 1/7 argument holds no water either since most everyone that shoot AR's don't shoot anything over 69gr. Glad to see you are speaking on behalf of "everyone", and stating what kind of ammo everyone shoots. I shoot 77grain ammo..... Hmm, I shot 77grs Black Hills out of my 1/9 AR when I was in my home state without any issues. Btw, I was hitting the 650 yrds gong at Koko Head repeatly. |
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actually i said "most everyone." if you're going to quote someone at least try and be accurate. i guess the point that YOU missed was anything above 69 grain is not typical.
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complete rifles no. not compared to other rifles in that price range, which ones in particular are you looking at? Possibly we can show you rifles that compare. Their barrels are an excellent buy though. 1/9 twist barrels
I would say the Wilson Combat is comparable to the Smith and Wesson M&P 15. But at 2,200 , I would go with the Smith and Wesson.
If you want to spend 2,200 dollars, at least spend it on a rifle that's worth it. You could buy 2 Colt SP6920s for that price. Or 1 Colt, lots of mags, ammo and a sweet optic. yeah...the 1/9 vs. 1/7 argument holds no water either since most everyone that shoot AR's don't shoot anything over 69gr. Glad to see you are speaking on behalf of "everyone", and stating what kind of ammo everyone shoots. I shoot 77grain ammo..... |
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complete rifles no. not compared to other rifles in that price range, which ones in particular are you looking at? Possibly we can show you rifles that compare. Their barrels are an excellent buy though. 1/9 twist barrels
I would say the Wilson Combat is comparable to the Smith and Wesson M&P 15. But at 2,200 , I would go with the Smith and Wesson.
If you want to spend 2,200 dollars, at least spend it on a rifle that's worth it. You could buy 2 Colt SP6920s for that price. Or 1 Colt, lots of mags, ammo and a sweet optic. yeah...the 1/9 vs. 1/7 argument holds no water either since most everyone that shoot AR's don't shoot anything over 69gr. Glad to see you are speaking on behalf of "everyone", and stating what kind of ammo everyone shoots. I shoot 77grain ammo..... Hmm, I shot 77grs Black Hills out of my 1/9 AR when I was in my home state without any issues. Btw, I was hitting the 650 yrds gong at Koko Head repeatly. and that's good, but the point of my post is, that's the excuse the 1/7 crowd always uses to bash 1/9. |
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So, I wasn't intending on turning this into mil spec or bullet weight argument. I just wanted to hear from people who've a) owned a Wilson AR, or b) have shot one to see if they're worth the money. I'm looking at a lot of different options and the Wilson caught my eye.
How about JP Enterprises? |
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complete rifles no. not compared to other rifles in that price range, which ones in particular are you looking at? Possibly we can show you rifles that compare. Their barrels are an excellent buy though. 1/9 twist barrels
I would say the Wilson Combat is comparable to the Smith and Wesson M&P 15. But at 2,200 , I would go with the Smith and Wesson.
If you want to spend 2,200 dollars, at least spend it on a rifle that's worth it. You could buy 2 Colt SP6920s for that price. Or 1 Colt, lots of mags, ammo and a sweet optic. yeah...the 1/9 vs. 1/7 argument holds no water either since most everyone that shoot AR's don't shoot anything over 69gr. Glad to see you are speaking on behalf of "everyone", and stating what kind of ammo everyone shoots. I shoot 77grain ammo..... Hmm, I shot 77grs Black Hills out of my 1/9 AR when I was in my home state without any issues. Btw, I was hitting the 650 yrds gong at Koko Head repeatly. You lie! 
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Not many Wilson's here. Not sure I have seen a complete one. My ups driver says he had a les Baer Jp are expensive set ups mostly geared toward three gun type competition. Neat rifles, but for a first AR? Years ago I was squaded at a carbine match with some out of town guys who travel the carbine circuit. They had mostly jp set ups and they wre pretty cool. I don't remember all the scores, but two locals guys who shoot idpa constantly beat all but one of the fancy gun guys. They both had stock rifles, one a rra with irons, the other a bushmaster with a cheap bushy1-4 from wal mart.
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Daniel Defense, Novekse, BCM (Vltor), Knights Armament, Larue, LMT, Rainier Arms pick any one and call it a day, ask me or any other member on the forum who owns one the first question you should ask is what do you plan on doing with it, im currently building my 4th AR and I started less than 3 years ago, why? because I have come to learn that every tool has its purpose and ever purpose requires certain tools. find your purpose, and pick a gun offered from one of the above and its safe to say you will immediately be geared better than 50% of all other ar15 owners. |
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Not many Wilson's here. Not sure I have seen a complete one. My ups driver says he had a les Baer Jp are expensive set ups mostly geared toward three gun type competition. Neat rifles, but for a first AR? Years ago I was squaded at a carbine match with some out of town guys who travel the carbine circuit. They had mostly jp set ups and they wre pretty cool. I don't remember all the scores, but two locals guys who shoot idpa constantly beat all but one of the fancy gun guys. They both had stock rifles, one a rra with irons, the other a bushmaster with a cheap bushy1-4 from wal mart. This will actually be my 6th AR. 
Most of my ARs are Smith & Wesson, Rock River, Remington, etc. I wanted something a little on the higher end this time around. |
| I live very close to Wilson and a good friend of mine is in charge of the AR production at Wilson, and I can tell you that I would NOT spend the extra on a Wilson,They are very popular around here, ( Northwest Arkansas ) I bought an upper and promptly sold it and picked up another CR 6724 Colt upper. Love the 6724. I'm sure they have pretty good results with their guns but they are not for me. |
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Wilson, like DD, Noveske, KAC....exceed the minimum standards and all their parts can be exchanged with milspec parts. I think they are great looking, and from what I hear they are extremely accurate and reliable. By the end of the day you are paying for great finish and quality.
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No, they aren't even mil spec in many areas. Your money will be better spent on a Colt, LMT, Daniel Defense, Noveske or BCM. What specifically is not mil spec on the Wilsons? Sorry, for the thread drift but I am curious. They sell a drop in trigger and I assume that it will work with most lowers. |
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Not many Wilson's here. Not sure I have seen a complete one. My ups driver says he had a les Baer Jp are expensive set ups mostly geared toward three gun type competition. Neat rifles, but for a first AR? Years ago I was squaded at a carbine match with some out of town guys who travel the carbine circuit. They had mostly jp set ups and they wre pretty cool. I don't remember all the scores, but two locals guys who shoot idpa constantly beat all but one of the fancy gun guys. They both had stock rifles, one a rra with irons, the other a bushmaster with a cheap bushy1-4 from wal mart. This will actually be my 6th AR.
Most of my ARs are Smith & Wesson, Rock River, Remington, etc. I wanted something a little on the higher end this time around. This comment bothers me.. "higher" end... more of paying for a name his weapons asside from a few things are like most other ARs...pull trigge bang somthing dies I have owned a few in my time 12+ and still 5 in the safe with my job i have shot most makes and there isnt one i would say is the best I think for a true upper end weapon you have to build from the ground up to your needs |
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No, they aren't even mil spec in many areas. Your money will be better spent on a Colt, LMT, Daniel Defense, Noveske or BCM. What does that matter? Mil spec is a standard that the military sets on rifles to be built to so everything is uniform. Does not make them better just means they are to be built to a specification. Wilson Combat makes a great rifle they are tailored different though to be much more precision rifle. Yes, it matters actually when it comes to the M4, mil spec is typically better than commercial specs on most levels. So do you think that a Colt is better than a KAC, or DD, or BCM? After all, Colt is more milspec....Milspec is the minimum acceptable in terms of quality (not talking about measurements here...). The companies mentioned follow milspec on measurements....making sure the items are within specs, but they also go above and beyong on quality and finish of some components. Did you not see that I mentioned those companies in my first post? Should probably have double check your info before posting that. Mil spec is a minimum standard, those companies meet that standard. Not sure how else it can be explained or what is confusing you... Yes, and I quoted you twice. You are using DD, BCM, Noveske as examples of milspec rifles....I am sure you know that are not, they are close but not milspec and in many aspects they exceed milspecs. Even the Colt you mention is not milspec.....I would have no doubt buying from a company like Wilson, I am sure they don't cut any corners and meet or exceed the minimum standards. |
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Wilson, like DD, Noveske, KAC....exceed the minimum standards and all their parts can be exchanged with milspec parts. I think they are great looking, and from what I hear they are extremely accurate and reliable. By the end of the day you are paying for great finish and quality. Quoted:
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No, they aren't even mil spec in many areas. Your money will be better spent on a Colt, LMT, Daniel Defense, Noveske or BCM. What specifically is not mil spec on the Wilsons? Sorry, for the thread drift but I am curious. They sell a drop in trigger and I assume that it will work with most lowers. lumping wilson with DD, noveske, or KAC................ 
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Quoted: if I was going to spend that kind of money I'd get something other than a 7th AR, a short dot, beowulf, put it towards night vision, go to Blackwater again.Quoted: Not many Wilson's here. Not sure I have seen a complete one. My ups driver says he had a les Baer Jp are expensive set ups mostly geared toward three gun type competition. Neat rifles, but for a first AR? Years ago I was squaded at a carbine match with some out of town guys who travel the carbine circuit. They had mostly jp set ups and they wre pretty cool. I don't remember all the scores, but two locals guys who shoot idpa constantly beat all but one of the fancy gun guys. They both had stock rifles, one a rra with irons, the other a bushmaster with a cheap bushy1-4 from wal mart. This will actually be my 6th AR. Most of my ARs are Smith & Wesson, Rock River, Remington, etc. I wanted something a little on the higher end this time around. |
Can't say I have experience with their AR setup. However when it comes to pistols the product they put out is nothing short of amazing and worth every over priced penny. There pistols make kimbers look like junk little cap guns. Worth it is subjective. If you are impressed with the presentation of the gun I can not imagine you being disappointed with the performance. Post some pics when you get it
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Not many Wilson's here. Not sure I have seen a complete one. My ups driver says he had a les Baer Jp are expensive set ups mostly geared toward three gun type competition. Neat rifles, but for a first AR? Years ago I was squaded at a carbine match with some out of town guys who travel the carbine circuit. They had mostly jp set ups and they wre pretty cool. I don't remember all the scores, but two locals guys who shoot idpa constantly beat all but one of the fancy gun guys. They both had stock rifles, one a rra with irons, the other a bushmaster with a cheap bushy1-4 from wal mart. This will actually be my 6th AR.
Most of my ARs are Smith & Wesson, Rock River, Remington, etc. I wanted something a little on the higher end this time around. This comment bothers me.. "higher" end... more of paying for a name his weapons asside from a few things are like most other ARs...pull trigge bang somthing dies I have owned a few in my time 12+ and still 5 in the safe with my job i have shot most makes and there isnt one i would say is the best I think for a true upper end weapon you have to build from the ground up to your needs No, just no. Higher end in many cases does mean HIGHER END. Are you telling me that you expect a CMMG chambered in 7.62 to be capable of the 1/2MOA (or usually FAR less) that a LaRue 7.62 OBR is? My 5.56 PredatAR can consistently shoot 1/2 MOA (as well as many other peoples), how many of your epic collection of random ARs can do that? Can an RRA pull off the "filthy 14" like a BCM did? I agree to a point with your "build from he ground up" is best but there really is no need when you can buy an "off the shelf" carbine that is gonna outperform pretty much anything you can build. Like it or not a rifle is not a rifle is not a rifle. This goes for ARs, AKs, and any other platform. I know we all like to have the biggest pile of toys but all of us would in the end be best served by finding one particular quality firearm, buying the highest quality optics and accessories we can for it (if you want any) and mastering its usage. I have more than 2 guns but my Pred is my go to long arm and my SIG SP2022 in 9mm is my go to pistol. I knew what I wanted, I looked until I found the best for me, I saved up until I could afford it and then I bought it. After you have the best long gun and side arm/CCW you can find THEN and only then start piling up a bunch of other stuff. |
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