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Posted: 2/4/2012 2:12:22 PM EDT
Anyone seen one of these before? If so what is it? Sorry for the dark pics, I have to get a light tent....
There used to be a hook on there until I ground it down. 
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Quoted: I noticed a little tank under your members tag...... AND YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS SOIDER??!!!  When I was in the Marines, if I took my rifle down far enough to get the burst cam out, I would have been smoked for DAYS, and DAYS. Only 2nd or 3rd echelon maintenance guys worry about stuff like that, and have to know what it is. |
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I noticed a little tank under your members tag...... AND YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS SOIDER??!!! When I was in the Marines, if I took my rifle down far enough to get the burst cam out, I would have been smoked for DAYS, and DAYS. Only 2nd or 3rd echelon maintenance guys worry about stuff like that, and have to know what it is. Yeah but that info should be in your knowledge. Your knowledge should be in that right cargo pocket. |
| I spent 23+ years as a Zoomie, and it was painfully obvious to me that the pictured hammer was a burst hammer without the auto sear tit. But not everybody in the USAF gets to actually see the innards of an M16, so pending hearing the esteemed Original Poster's AFSC, I am officially deferring judgement. |
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I spent 23+ years as a Zoomie, and it was painfully obvious to me that the pictured hammer was a burst hammer without the auto sear tit. But not everybody in the USAF gets to actually see the innards of an M16, so pending hearing the esteemed Original Poster's AFSC, I am officially deferring judgement. ive never been in the military and instantly knew it was a burst cog and M16 hammer |
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Maybe, but I know a burst hammer and cam when I see one  .
And aircrafts –– those are the things I jumped out of! If they were piloted by folks who don't recognize a burst cam, I'd jump out of them too... Gun nuts are few and far between, regardless of the branch. |
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Maybe, but I know a burst hammer and cam when I see one .
And aircrafts –– those are the things I jumped out of! If they were piloted by folks who don't recognize a burst cam, I'd jump out of them too... Gun nuts are few and far between, regardless of the branch. hopefully we werent to hard on the OP |
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Yeah, starting to think my lighthearted attempt at interservice humor might have been a bit too much
Nah! For the record, there's probably I've known and worked with quite a few Army guys who wouldn't recognize the part either. (And some of my best friends are/were zoomies). |
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I see a AR15 hammer made from a M16 hammer than can use either M16 hammer springs with the burst cam on, or an AR15 spring if the cam is removed.
And don't be too hard on the service members, I've met soldiers that don't know what end of a rifle the bullet comes out of. 
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Sorry for the dark pics, I have to get a light tent.... You don't need a light tent, your Nikon Coolpix is a decent enough camera to give you solid results. If you stop using the auto mode and auto white balance, you will be way ahead of the curve. When you are shooting on a white background the camera wants to make it a neutral gray, which is why the shots turn out darker than you want. 
A lot of people are probably wondering where you got a the M16 burst hammer. |
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Oh, thanks guys.
AFSC was 3C251 and 2A351, and we never took out the lower internals for cleaning, ever, I guess they did not trust us enough. Lol. I can replace million dollar parts on a milti-million plane but not be trusted to take apart a gun or carry one for that matter. I have an M16, this hammer might have come from it, who knows. I have parts I have no idea where they came from. Now I wish I had not neutered it. Oh well, live and learn. |
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Oh, thanks guys. AFSC was 3C251 and 2A351, and we never took out the lower internals for cleaning, ever, I guess they did not trust us enough. Lol. I can replace million dollar parts on a milti-million plane but not be trusted to take apart a gun or carry one for that matter. I have an M16, this hammer might have come from it, who knows. I have parts I have no idea where they came from. Now I wish I had not neutered it. Oh well, live and learn. Interesting switch between F15s (or was it A10s or U2s?) and Comm...whichever direction you went. The last time I qualified, the CATM guy running the class made enough mistakes that I spoke with the supervisor at break time... Having a Master Instructor comment on your people's teaching skills, and having that person be "just a radio troop" appears to have struck a nerve, as the TSgt supervisor sat through the rest of the class with us. (In the Air Force Comm world, Radio troops wind up at places that don't even have a fence, let alone security/defensive support, so we tend to spend plenty of time with weapons. Oh, and we tend to get the stuff they didn't bother to man for; "it has wires, it's near the ground, and nobody else claims it, so give it to Radio" is not just a cute phrase...). When I was in avionics (328x5 way back then, now I have no idea what 2A5xx AFSC they use), we had people who could identify fasteners for skin panels and doors from 100yards, and could produce perfectly twisted safety wired connectors with a pair of plain pliers, but who could not safely use a "P38" can opener to save their lives... A lot of Air Force specialties are really that closely specialized (unlike Ground Radio ).
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Yes, I ground it off. :( If memory serves, at some point I needed a hammer for an AR so ground the hook instead of waiting for the new one. I know, I know.....
I recognized it was a M16 trigger of some sort but the gear/cam and spring threw me as my M16 hammer was not like that.ap When we qualified over the years when I was in, they never once let us shoot more than semi auto. I wasn't a big gun guy back then so I am not even sure if they were FA or 3 round guns we qualified with. My transition was from Avionics Maintenance on the C17 to Computer networks. |
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I hear you about "military training" for those of us who weren't SF. I was in a position to be a detachment superintendent (I was Chief of Maintenance in my last remote) as a MSgt, but even in that leadership role, I was NEVER trained in "this is how these weapons work, in case you need to help your troops out." The Brass seems to still think that the Army has some sort of commitment to defend air bases, which was publicly and thoroughly debunked in the 1980s, at which time Security Police units were all beefed up (a bit) and the Air Base Ground Defense mission was created. (Ground Radio often got deployed with ABGD to maintain the cops' comm gear, and we were armed then-just not thoroughly trained.)
Back on topic, there's no reason for you, a private M16 owner, to "need" to know about the burst cam parts, since it seems few private M16 owners are fond of the burst function. And M16 FCG parts aren't particularly expensive nor hard to find, so it's not like you hacked up a low serial number Armalite or something. (P.S.: The few times I got to fly on C17s, it was almost like being on an airliner, compared to the -130s, -141s, and C5s I'd been on. It was even much more comfortable than the KC135s I'd ridden. Nice planes. They're almost always buzzing around here in San Antonio...) |
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I noticed a little tank under your members tag...... AND YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS SOIDER??!!! When I was in the Marines, if I took my rifle down far enough to get the burst cam out, I would have been smoked for DAYS, and DAYS. Only 2nd or 3rd echelon maintenance guys worry about stuff like that, and have to know what it is. Yeah but that info should be in your knowledge. Your knowledge should be in that right cargo pocket. Left cargo, canteen on the right...
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The most important reason I can think of for being able to identify a 3 shot burst component is for knowing how to disable that function .
At least that's what a certain SFC taught me.... never new that is even possible with the hammer alone.... It was a young E4 Ranger who showed it to me during Desert Storm. Didn't matter much to me though; I was issued an A1. |
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