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1/23/2012 11:11:42 AM EDT
Bought my first AR used.  I know very minimal about ARs but it is a Colt Match Target Competition HBAR with some mods done by the previous owner.  One of wich is a low profile gas block.  After shooting the rifle with much success the first couple of trips to the range, the rifle started to short cycle.  The ejections were obviously weak and it would fail to feed.  That is when I noticed that the gas block had small gap between it and the ridge on the barrell that appears to be the stopping point for installing the gas block.  It seem to me that this would definately be a problem since the hole in the barrell and the hole in the gas block were not alligned.  Right??  Well then I noticed that the gas block was missing one of the set screws and the other was loose.  So I want to remove the gas block to take it with me to make it easier to get a new set screw for it.  And I fugured it's a good time to clean the gas tube and such. I thought gas blocks slid right off once the set screws were removed.  Mine does not.  I need to know if this is normal and how to get it off without damaging the gun.  I do not have any specialized tools so home remedies are welcome.  Also, there is not a gas tube retention pin in this gas block.  Seems kinda wierd.  Is the gas tube just pressed into the gas block?  This might seem pretty basic, but i'm learning as i go and don't want to damage anything.  Thanks for any help.
1/23/2012 11:44:51 AM EDT
[#1]
There is a cap between the FSB and the shoulder when using standard handguards.
Unless the gas block was designed to fit without the cap then that gap needs to be there to properly align the gas port with the hole in the gas block.
Some gas blocks are put on tight, I don’t know if it is deliberate on a Colt or not.
Look for powder residue around the gas block and bolt carrier key. Also check the key to see if it is loose.
Check the gas rings on the bolt.
Lack of proper lubrication can also cause short stoking and is the #1 problem I usually see at the range.
It seems unlikely the gas tube would not be pinned. If the pin came out and the tube shifted it could partially block gas flow.
1/23/2012 12:00:19 PM EDT
[#2]
Thanks for the help.  The hand guard is after market free floating and the gas block does not even have hole drilled for tube retention pin.  How is the tube secured?  Can I use a brass mallet to tap the gas block the rest of the way off?
1/23/2012 12:31:35 PM EDT
[#3]
I think I would try a nylon or hard rubber hammer first.
I guess there are several ways it could be done, it may not be intended to be user serviceable.
Contact the manufacturer.
1/23/2012 2:37:35 PM EDT
[#4]
can you post a pic of the gas block or find one online that is similar? I cant think of one gas block that doesn't have a pin holding the gas tube on.
1/23/2012 4:18:39 PM EDT
[#5]
Can't seem to post my pics.  Any help
1/24/2012 3:10:13 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Can't seem to post my pics.  Any help


Here is a how-to.

http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=876558

1/26/2012 3:49:20 PM EDT
[#7]
Here are the links to the pics

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh512/jeephed/2012-01-23_19-02-38_180.jpg

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh512/jeephed/2012-01-23_19-03-29_273.jpghttp://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh512/jeephed/2012-01-23_19-03-29_273.jpghttp://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh512/jeephed/2012-01-23_19-02-38_180.jpg
1/26/2012 5:33:22 PM EDT
[#8]
I would still opt for the plastic or hard rubber first, but brass should be ok.
They could have pressed and used Loctite to secure the gas tube.
Replacing that tube could be a real adventure.
I would call Colt’s service department and see what they will tell you.

1/26/2012 5:57:18 PM EDT
[#9]
I don't know of a single commercial gas block that looks like that. Perhaps its a custom block?

This is what the spacing looks like on a standard gas block, perhaps the whole thing moved forward. But like it is it should not work at all.

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