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Posted: 10/16/2011 1:23:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MMcfpd:
Originally Posted By 75ScoutII:
Anyone know of a source for A1 uppers of any type with M4 feedramps. If you find you need them, you can Dremel them in yourself or get someone like ADCO to do it. A thread a while ago listed the part numbers for bushmaster c7 uppers with m4 feed ramps. Not a true a1 as it has the brass deflector and f/a but I see a few people with the c7 uppers in this thread. It is a part you have to call to order. |
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Posted: 10/16/2011 6:36:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Minky:
Does this count as modern since it has midlength gas? 
http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq6/Minky_SA/Lightweight%20Build/done.jpg http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq6/Minky_SA/Lightweight%20Build/lw.jpg Nice!!! |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2011 9:13:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: alexfiggy]
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A1 1/12 colt mill upper on a spikes lower magpul excesories and baby acog and dura coat in a grey .  ok I went back and did sme more mods
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Posted: 10/16/2011 9:18:28 PM EDT
[#4]
Originally Posted By ccosby:
Originally Posted By MMcfpd:
Originally Posted By 75ScoutII:
Anyone know of a source for A1 uppers of any type with M4 feedramps. If you find you need them, you can Dremel them in yourself or get someone like ADCO to do it. A thread a while ago listed the part numbers for bushmaster c7 uppers with m4 feed ramps. Not a true a1 as it has the brass deflector and f/a but I see a few people with the c7 uppers in this thread. It is a part you have to call to order. The A1 has a F/A. True A1 uppers are available from NoDak. |
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Posted: 10/16/2011 9:20:55 PM EDT
[#5]
It's a bastard child but I love it.
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OR, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2011 10:57:52 PM EDT
[#6]
Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
Originally Posted By LA_357SIG:
That is awesome. indeed Are the CAV arms lowers gtg? I'm about to have pretty much the same setup, minus the acog, plus triangular guards (or maybe the new NDS ar10b style). Only issue most people have with the cav arms lower (myself included) is that the takedown pins are hard to get in/push out. Not that big of a deal for most applications... but something to keep in mind. I have to carry something with me to push the pin out, even needed a small hammer the first couple of times. Also there doesn't actually seem to be absolute consensus on whether or not the bushmaster "a1" (c7) upper has m4 feedramps. It's possible that only Colt c7s had them. Of course there's always the dremel... |
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USA
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Posted: 10/17/2011 12:56:17 AM EDT
[#7]
I am new to the site and this looks like a good place to start.
here is my bastard child colt a1 upper, from what i have researched it was the last of the a1s made before the a2s spikes tactical lower with stag parts stag BCG i like it.. https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=c1502326e5&view=att&th=1330ff762ef824e5&attid=0.4&disp=inline&zw https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=c1502326e5&view=att&th=1330ff762ef824e5&attid=0.1&disp=inline&zw https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=c1502326e5&view=att&th=1330ff762ef824e5&attid=0.2&disp=inline&zw https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=c1502326e5&view=att&th=1330ff762ef824e5&attid=0.3&disp=inline&zw for my first ar i put it together with the help of my brother and a couple of my buddies |
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Posted: 10/17/2011 4:53:50 PM EDT
[#8]
Anyone else besides Hokie have a 14.5 + A1 setup?
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Posted: 10/17/2011 8:48:39 PM EDT
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USA
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Posted: 10/17/2011 9:33:42 PM EDT
[#10]
i though A1s didnt have brass deflectors? i have been wrong before..
if someone knows the differences off the top of your head that would be cool... |
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Posted: 10/17/2011 9:37:53 PM EDT
[#11]
Originally Posted By guncrazy923:
i though A1s didnt have brass deflectors? i have been wrong before.. if someone knows the differences off the top of your head that would be cool... Those receivers with brass deflectors aren't A1 receivers. However, they're usually referred to as such due to the fixed carry handle and windage-only adjustable rear sight. An A1 receiver is defined as one with a fixed carry handle, windage-only adjustable rear sight, and forward assist. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/17/2011 9:47:40 PM EDT
[#12]
thanks for the quick reply...
lets see more of those bastard childern |
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Posted: 10/17/2011 11:38:04 PM EDT
[#13]
Originally Posted By guncrazy923:
i though A1s didnt have brass deflectors? i have been wrong before.. if someone knows the differences off the top of your head that would be cool... They are called c7 uppers. The Canadians used them on their early version of the m16. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 10/18/2011 1:33:37 AM EDT
[#14]
Originally Posted By Colt_sporter:
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/DSC_5612.JPG http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/DSC_5611.JPG http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/DSC_6634.JPG the fde middy is frigging awesome! i want to build that.omg, it's kind of perfect. |
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Posted: 10/18/2011 2:11:48 AM EDT
[#15]
Originally Posted By LA_357SIG:
That is awesome. Yeah it is. |
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Posted: 10/18/2011 7:53:21 AM EDT
[#16]
Hokie. It is official..... after many years of drooling over your AR, I am going to copy it. (won't paint it right away, might do the BFPU look on it first) And it shall be my primary rifle. |
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Posted: 10/20/2011 4:25:34 AM EDT
[#17]
Originally Posted By fatkid35:
Originally Posted By Colt_sporter:
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/DSC_5612.JPG http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/DSC_5611.JPG http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/DSC_6634.JPG the fde middy is frigging awesome! i want to build that.omg, it's kind of perfect. Thanks. I get a lot of comments on it. It's a great gun, the balance (due to the extra mag and the stock being full of stuff) is a little off. Aside from that, it's definately one of my favs. |
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Posted: 10/20/2011 11:05:38 AM EDT
[#18]
Originally Posted By MRW:
Originally Posted By alemonkey:
I really want a pencil barreled carbine with A1 stock, but with a flat top instead of carry handle. I still want a fixed rear sight, but I like the option of running an optic because they work better for me in low light. I'm more accurate with irons but faster with a dot. http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=15735 That second one is sweet; that has always been one of my favorite 20"ers. |
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Posted: 10/20/2011 5:53:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LA_357SIG]
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Posted: 10/20/2011 6:09:52 PM EDT
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/20/2011 6:26:21 PM EDT
[#21]
Okay, I'm not trying to be some hardon here. I really really have always like this style of rifle. It just has raw sex appeal. And, I like old skool stuff. One question though. What kinda accuracy are you guys getting with the "pencils''? Ammo used? Range? Only thing I am scared about. Thanks guys, 9080
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Posted: 10/20/2011 6:43:28 PM EDT
[#22]
Originally Posted By ccosby: Originally Posted By guncrazy923: i though A1s didnt have brass deflectors? i have been wrong before.. if someone knows the differences off the top of your head that would be cool... They are called c7 uppers. The Canadians used them on their early version of the m16.  my dedicated .22 upper |
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Posted: 10/20/2011 7:22:41 PM EDT
[#23]
My 'AWB era' carbine was a moden take of the A1:
C7 style upper with a M4 type barrel: 
My later one used a lightweight (A1'esque barrel) 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/20/2011 7:30:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JohnRippert]
[#24]
Originally Posted By Fireman9080:
Okay, I'm not trying to be some hardon here. I really really have always like this style of rifle. It just has raw sex appeal. And, I like old skool stuff. One question though. What kinda accuracy are you guys getting with the "pencils''? Ammo used? Range? Only thing I am scared about. Thanks guys, 9080 I have 3 pencil barrel AR's, two 20" and one 16". I have run a variety of weights through them. The two 20" 1-12 twist at 100yd shoot 55gr surplus to about 3-4inch. Black Hills blue box 55gr and 52gr at about 2-3inch. 62gr Radway SS109 looks like a shotgun pattern at 100yd. My 16" Bushmaster LW barrel in 1-7 twist at 100yds does pretty much the same with each load mentioned and for some reason does not like the Prvi 75gr match HP, 4-5inch at 100yd. I see no appreciable difference in accuracy between pencil barrels and gov profile or HBAR. |
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Posted: 10/20/2011 8:02:05 PM EDT
[#25]
Originally Posted By LA_357SIG:
In one of those moods again today. http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k252/chrisq_01/SU1BRzA3MjEuanBn.jpg Feels "right" this way now. This I like. |
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Posted: 10/24/2011 3:37:31 PM EDT
[#26]
Originally Posted By GunnyG:
Originally Posted By ccosby:
Originally Posted By guncrazy923:
i though A1s didnt have brass deflectors? i have been wrong before.. if someone knows the differences off the top of your head that would be cool... They are called c7 uppers. The Canadians used them on their early version of the m16. my dedicated .22 upper
Nice |
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Posted: 10/25/2011 7:19:01 PM EDT
[#27]
Here's my version with a CMMG 1/7 pencil barrel.
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Posted: 10/26/2011 5:40:11 PM EDT
[#28]
Originally Posted By mike_nds:
Here's my version with a CMMG 1/7 pencil barrel. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/C7_rifle.JPG That's hot |
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Posted: 10/27/2011 10:14:11 AM EDT
[#29]
Bump for Forrest to put his cool carbine in here....
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Posted: 10/27/2011 10:52:39 AM EDT
[#30]
My RO723 clone
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Posted: 10/27/2011 11:09:55 AM EDT
[#31]
Just swapped my CMMG M4 profile barrel off of the 723 clone for a Colt 653 barrel - it's on an NDS lower and has the same Aimpoint 5000 optic, but in silver, and I'm not using the rear tube extension - otherwise looks pretty similar to yours, jcrowl. Great configuration and great for plinking and with the .22lr kit.
It might look quite different soon, though - the better half likes the handling and I might be getting a pink furniture set from PK! 
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Posted: 10/27/2011 11:32:23 AM EDT
[#32]
Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
Bump for Forrest to put his cool carbine in here.... Like I said it's not really an 'A1'.... 
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Posted: 10/27/2011 12:16:46 PM EDT
[#33]
Can we get this thread added to the picture thread sticky?
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Posted: 10/27/2011 2:01:34 PM EDT
[#34]
Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
Can we get this thread added to the picture thread sticky? Done. |
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Posted: 10/27/2011 5:40:07 PM EDT
[#35]
Originally Posted By Forest:
Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
Can we get this thread added to the picture thread sticky? Done. Thank you sir. |
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Posted: 1/8/2012 10:04:27 PM EDT
[#36]
bump
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/9/2012 3:01:42 AM EDT
[#37]
i liked this thread so much i went and bought an A1 upper receiver to build on. gotta love BRD! place holder for my pics.
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Posted: 1/9/2012 8:58:30 AM EDT
[#38]
Does 9mm Count?
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Posted: 1/9/2012 9:18:44 AM EDT
[#39]
Originally Posted By Landric:
Does 9mm Count? http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c85/Landric/100_0463.jpg yes. nice carbine |
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Posted: 1/9/2012 9:54:01 AM EDT
[#40]
I finished redoing this one yesterday. Previously, it had a 16" Bushmaster Superlight barrel. I replaced it with one of the $150 DSA 14.5" CL barrels. I pinned and welded an extended A2 flash hider on the end. The result is a handy lil' carbine that balances and handles a lot better than it did before. It's the dedicated beater/ truck / Air Force GUU/5P clone gun. I have an identical upper in .22lr that I put together.
Out of a half a dozen ARs, 4 of them are A1s. 
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OR, USA
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Posted: 1/9/2012 11:21:10 AM EDT
[#41]
All kinds of A1 weirdness around here.
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Posted: 1/9/2012 11:45:38 AM EDT
[#42]
Originally Posted By karlb:
I finished redoing this one yesterday. Previously, it had a 16" Bushmaster Superlight barrel. I replaced it with one of the $150 DSA 14.5" CL barrels. I pinned and welded an extended A2 flash hider on the end. The result is a handy lil' carbine that balances and handles a lot better than it did before. It's the dedicated beater/ truck / Air Force GUU/5P clone gun. I have an identical upper in .22lr that I put together. Out of a half a dozen ARs, 4 of them are A1s. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/nobux/Karls%20hobbies/2012-01-09_08-41-14_77.jpg I like that! |
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Posted: 1/9/2012 1:10:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pun]
[#43]
The thing I love about the A1 is the iron sights they are the stronges damage resistant sights on the AR/M16 series.Its funny when I had A2 fixed handles,carry handles and now a BUIS wich is not elevation adjustable I always zeroed as I did with A1 sights by just adjusting the front post for elevation even though on A2 sights there is an elevation adjustment.I kept it bottomed out and zeroed with the front post...to J I love the 723 clone and 653s are still my favorite carbines.Wow J that looks like a carbine the dleta guys used in somalia.."black hawk down"..real nice man
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 1/9/2012 1:20:49 PM EDT
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Ok, now I dont feel so weird about my idea for a KISS lightweight. A1 upper, with teardrop F/A, pencil 1/7 midlength with MagPul handguards on a BCM lower with a Hogue grip and MagPul stock. I also want a clone of that rifle with a flattop upper. Should be damn fun little carbines.
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OR, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2012 3:10:37 PM EDT
[#45]
Originally Posted By JohnRippert:
And my HD Frankencarbine. Slickside Colt upper, BM LW barrel assy, CavAid lower,+ accessories. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/johnrippert/Mutt.jpg Very cool. I want to do something similar with my cav lower LW carbine. Does the aimpoint co-witness with the sights on that mount? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2012 6:43:51 PM EDT
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I posted these up in the "Go-to" rifle thread but since it's a real M16A1 they belong here as well......
Here is a pic of my current, semi-approved, working gun: 
Personally owned rifles are not authorized where I work. We are issued 10-33 M16A1s. Modifications such as A2 or night sights, buttstocks, and pistol grips are allowed as long as the Department Armorer and Range Master approve and an armorer installs the parts. I went to a 3 day class with some Deputies from a local Sheriff's Office who had simply switched out the uppers on their 10-33 rifles and I brought this back to my Department. Final approval is now up to the Chief of Police.... Specs: M16A1 Lower Receiver with semi-only FCG BCM 14.5 LW carbine upper w/pinned BC 1.5 Troy TRX rail Surefire G2 w/KX4 head in VTAC mount VTAC padded sling Aimpoint T-1 in DD mount Troy BUIS Original configuration of my "go-to/work" rifle: 
Specs: M16A1 A2 rear apperture and front sight post installed Magpu MOE handguards w/ IWC QD sling mount Surefire VTAC L4 in VTAC mount MOE illumination kit VTAC sling The BCM upper will go back on my 6920/SOPMOD lower for home use if personal owned uppers are denied. I always adjust my collapsible stocks to about A1 length, so I have no plans on switching to and adjustable stock on this. Stay Safe, Rob |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 1/30/2012 1:26:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: highdesert45]
[#47]
DPMS Panther Lite 16"
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Posted: 1/31/2012 7:12:58 AM EDT
[#48]
 Not a military replica. Need to get an A1 lower and the correct buttstock for that. Mine doesn't have the trapdoor. |
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Posted: 1/31/2012 7:25:07 AM EDT
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The guys using a1 receivers with carbine length bbl. Are any of you guys using f marked front sight bases with the A1 rear sight?
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Posted: 1/31/2012 7:43:12 AM EDT
[#50]
Originally Posted By Half-Bear:
The guys using a1 receivers with carbine length bbl. Are any of you guys using f marked front sight bases with the A1 rear sight? +1 I was wondering about this myself |
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