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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - M4 FAT or.... (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 5/22/2011 3:59:42 PM EDT
| ...carbine skinny? Which handguards do you prefer and why. Also looking for pictures of carbines with the skinny handguards. |
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...carbine skinny? Which handguards do you prefer and why. Also looking for pictures of carbines with the skinny handguards. As far as HG so, i like the Magpul HGs if running plastics. As far as rails go, i lie VFG so it's not that big of a deal to me how big is the OD of the tube im running. Still, i don't like the "tin can" feel of some rails out there couple with covers. J |
| I have large hands and still prefer the carbine handguards, that said lately I have tried the Magpul MOE handguards and I do like them. I have them both in carbine and mid length and would like to try a rilfe length set next. I still have one M4 setup with the fat M4 handguards but for no special reason...<><....:) |
| As for plastic handguards, Magpul MOEs are my standard handguards. The typical round type aren't even an option. Reasons: MOEs fit MUCH better in my hands, I like the texture of MOEs better, I like that MOEs have a little hand stop on them to prevent you from touching the hot fsb, they're lighter than M4 guards, and they allow me to easily mount a TLR-1 weapon light @ 10 o'clock which works very well for me. For <$30 they're a no-brainier. ymmv |
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I should have specified a choice between the standard M4 and the skinny carbine as in no rails, magpul, vfg...just plain jane ordinary no attachments handguards Out of curiosity, why? Well, because i don't want or need anything other than basic, round, no fancy schmancy, handguards. |
| I use standard handguards because 1 rails add weight 2 I dont need rails as I have my BUIS and Aimpoint M4s on my flat top I have a light mount picatinny rail on the bayo lug for my light and im good to go.I like and use socom barrels so any weight savings is good for me.I dont like foregrips or the hold so thats why for me standard handguards are the best. |
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I should have specified a choice between the standard M4 and the skinny carbine as in no rails, magpul, vfg...just plain jane ordinary no attachments handguards Out of curiosity, why? Well, because i don't want or need anything other than basic, round, no fancy schmancy, handguards. If you haven't handled MOEs, try them out. They're noting fancy, just basic HGs yet more comfortable with added features if you wish to take advantage of them. There's a reason the majority of responders mentioned them. 
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| Your right you dont need anything fancy schmancy.....but why limit yourself? do yourself a favor and buy the Moes.........they cost about $30, they take 2 seconds to throw on and your not limited. They have heat shield, protect your hand from a hot barrel, and you can easily mount a light later when you want to or anything else with a simple piece of picatinny. Bottom line.....you have options with the MOE......and you WILL be adding something later trust us on that lol |
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I should have specified a choice between the standard M4 and the skinny carbine as in no rails, magpul, vfg...just plain jane ordinary no attachments handguards Out of curiosity, why? Well, because i don't want or need anything other than basic, round, no fancy schmancy, handguards. No offense, but if you are asking people whether you should use M4 or carbine hand guards then how do you even know what you need? And M4 ones are oval, not round. Like others have stated, the MOE is in the same price range as M4 guards. I'm not sure what "fancy schmancy" means. I just use what works good. For me that happens to be a rail that weighs almost the same as the plastic hand guards. |
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I still don't get the "koolaid" thing. I guess we should feel bad for supporting and buying from makers of high quality products? It's not like you pay a huge premium for Magpul products. They're basically the exact same cost as standard carbine hand guards, except they look better, they feel better, they are easier to mount rails on, and they generally seem to lock up tighter than standard hand guards. I don't see any reason why people should be bashed for recommending them. |
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I still don't get the "koolaid" thing. I guess we should feel bad for supporting and buying from makers of high quality products? It's not like you pay a huge premium for Magpul products. They're basically the exact same cost as standard carbine hand guards, except they look better, they feel better, they are easier to mount rails on, and they generally seem to lock up tighter than standard hand guards. I don't see any reason why people should be bashed for recommending them. Haters gonna hate. I know someone who bitches that EVERY part made for ARs are over priced. Yet he claims people only buy affordable Magpul parts because they are made by Magpul and we will buy anything they sell. Refuses to buy their products. Makes no sense. |
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I hate the factory CAR skinny handguards, both in looks and feel
I run double heat sheild M4 oval handguards on all my carbines. I used to run Midwest Idustries FF rails but after never mounting anything more than a flashlight on my rifle I could not justify the added weight. But that's just me |
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I've got both and I like both in different ways, the old CAR skinny is a very familiar look which I first got with my first carbine back in '85 and the M4 that I first got in '05 which seems more comfortable in my large size hands.
I prefer to use my M4 handguards when I do rapid fire and bump firing because of its double layer heat shields, not all M4 handguards have double heat shields, some makers are only using one layer, make sure the one you're buying have them. For a retro carbine I prefer the skinny handguards. I would suggest trying them first at your local gun shop or go to a gun show, it would help in your decision. |
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Plastic handguards are cheap. Recently I've been attending some gunshows, and I've seen and purchased piles of new take-off handguards, collapsible buttstocks, and piston grips for between $.50-$3 each (including Smith and Wesson, DoubleStar, and DPMS). Don't worry about what other people are using. Get sets of Skinny (carbine), and Fat (M4) handguards, put them on your gun, carry the gun (around house and yard), and try shooting it from different positions.
The best choice for you, and your uses will emerge, |
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Plastic handguards are cheap. Recently I've been attending some gunshows, and I've seen and purchased piles of new take-off handguards, collapsible buttstocks, and piston grips for between $.50-$3 each (including Smith and Wesson, DoubleStar, and DPMS). Don't worry about what other people are using. Get sets of Skinny (carbine), and Fat (M4) handguards, put them on your gun, carry the gun (around house and yard), and try shooting it from different positions. The best choice for you, and your uses will emerge, And when your done with that you are going to shelv them for a rifle length free float anyway. 
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I should have specified a choice between the standard M4 and the skinny carbine as in no rails, magpul, vfg...just plain jane ordinary no attachments handguards Out of curiosity, why? Well, because i don't want or need anything other than basic, round, no fancy schmancy, handguards. 
The Magpul MOE is a basic, no fancy schamncy handguard. |
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Neither! I like XM607 style triangular carbine handguards. they are MUCH more comfortable than the round or oval handguards, and IMO much more aesthetically pleasing.
Of the 2 you mentioned though, car/round/skinny>M-4/oval/fat both for comfort, and aesthetics. the M-4 oval handguards are a F***ing abomination IMO, the only handguards less comfortable to me are bare, railed handguards, (i.e. no covers, VFG's etc.) and the only uglier handguards are those ones DD makes which extend around or beyond the FSB. (I realize those were intended for a VERY specific purpose.) |
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I like both of them, but in my opinion, if your barrel is the M-4 type (with the cut) or heavy, you should go with the fat handguard. If your barrel is light weight, I think the gun would look better with the skinny handguard.
Function wise, it is of my opinion that the fat ones are superior to the skinny ones, because of the double heat shield that the former have. |
Since I built this carbine, I wanted it to fit like it was made just for me. I tried the M4 handguards which I originally put on it, not comfortable in my hand, too fat. I borrowed a Magpul MOE from a friends carbine, didn't like, too much excess plastic. Received the skinny carbine guards this morning, went to the range and shot 330 rounds standing, prone, sitting, kneeling and walking. The skinny carbine guards fit and function best for me.
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