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Posted: 5/12/2011 8:29:14 AM EDT
| I want to switch my trigger guard to the Spikes curved guard. Any thoughts how to get the second pin out? Or will I just have to cut the trigger guard I have now? |
| If you're talking about the rear roll pin, then you'll need a pin punch, a hammer, and a solid surface to support the flanges (I guess that's the best word for them) on the lower receiver for the trigger guard. And just in case you're talking about the front pin, that's a detent, and it can be pressed in so that the trigger guard will fold down. |
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I want to switch my trigger guard to the Spikes curved guard. Any thoughts how to get the second pin out? Or will I just have to cut the trigger guard I have now? I have to ask this... Why? This always bothers me when someone questions what/why someone is doing something. Who cares why he is doing it. And what place is it of yours to question it. He wants to change it out and asked for help on how to do it, not if it was ok with you. Get over yourself, jeez To the OP, like has already been mentioned by others, how ever you plan to get it out be sure to support the "ears" Good luck |
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I want to switch my trigger guard to the Spikes curved guard. Any thoughts how to get the second pin out? Or will I just have to cut the trigger guard I have now? I have to ask this... Why? Damn near 9000 posts and been here since 2003 and you're asking why? 
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I want to switch my trigger guard to the Spikes curved guard. Any thoughts how to get the second pin out? Or will I just have to cut the trigger guard I have now? I have to ask this... Why? Looks more cooler? More room in the triggerguard, the square edge of the stock one rubs some peoples middle finger raw, like me. Why not? Cant afford it? Scared of breaking the lower? The Magpul and ST triggerguards are one of the nicer, more practical upgrades for people, especially if you have larger hands. |
| Support the ears use some penetrating oil over the roll pin,dont whack the punch with the hammer tap it with multiple light taps to get it moving out.Be sure the punch is the right size and is contacting the roll pin and not the lowers ears in any way.Too large or the wrong punch=broken ears,un supported can mean broken ears,contact from punch and hammer on ears and not roll pin can mean broken ears.I have large hands I use the MOE and MIAD grips with the plastic MOE trigger guard in any event plastic or aluminum trigger guard oil the openings in the ears and trigger guard and the roll pin before tapping it home. |
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My Son(12yo) busted his first(hopefully last) trigger guard tabs tonight! My/his spikes lower is now a paper weight! I guess I will call this a learning experience for him... You can still use it, its not a loss. Some folks have had good success re-attaching the tab. But in all actuality you can still operate the weapon just the same. |
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I use a medium sized C-clamp to press the pin out and the new pin in. Takes about 15 seconds and there is no risk of damaging the lower.
This sounds good. I've always used a roll pin punch and support with my well used baseball mitt with no problems but I like sound ideas. Never took one back out yet. My Son(12yo) busted his first(hopefully last) trigger guard tabs tonight! My/his spikes lower is now a paper weight! I guess I will call this a learning experience for him Not good but you can get around it. Look at all the VN photos with the guard opened up. Think they could get in action a little quicker in real time. It's made to drop for a reason but I think the lesson is to read instructions and tutorials, granted he is only 12 but I've never seen anything on assembling AR lowers that didn't say support the lower. Now watch me break the next one I install. I've done over 30 with no problems not even a scratch. Does seem like some lpk roll pins or lower holes aren't quite spec in my opinion. Good luck! It can be fixed but don't think I'd bother until I could weld it back up, then it will look well used. Keep the broken piece. Lot of good welders out there and some good armorers in WA too. Check hometown up top and get the kid to e-mail one or find a welder in your neighborhood. If you do the prep doubt if they would charge you. |
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My Son(12yo) busted his first(hopefully last) trigger guard tabs tonight! My/his spikes lower is now a paper weight! I guess I will call this a learning experience for him... If you're going to go ahead and retire the lower to paperweight status, I'd just epoxy the whole thing together. Trigger guard - broken ear - non broken ear - front attach points, making them all "one piece" by gluing them all together. If it's only a paperweight that you're bringing out of retirement, what does it matter? Like mentioned, it can be welded, but by the time you pay to weld it, pay to refinish it, and hope it worked, you'd be close to simply buying another lower for the $80 that they cost. |
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My Son(12yo) busted his first(hopefully last) trigger guard tabs tonight! My/his spikes lower is now a paper weight! I guess I will call this a learning experience for him... get a starks grip..no need for the ears then starks grip |
| Why....because it looks better, feels nicer and is a cheap mod to make your rifle yours. You can keep your rifle the way you want, because the OP wants to change his, what differance does it make to you? Why do you feel to make some bullshit comment in the thread? |
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My Son(12yo) busted his first(hopefully last) trigger guard tabs tonight! My/his spikes lower is now a paper weight! I guess I will call this a learning experience for him... If you're going to go ahead and retire the lower to paperweight status, I'd just epoxy the whole thing together. Trigger guard - broken ear - non broken ear - front attach points, making them all "one piece" by gluing them all together. If it's only a paperweight that you're bringing out of retirement, what does it matter? Like mentioned, it can be welded, but by the time you pay to weld it, pay to refinish it, and hope it worked, you'd be close to simply buying another lower for the $80 that they cost. I finally recently broke my first "ear" and this is what I did. I hope it helps! |
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My Son(12yo) busted his first(hopefully last) trigger guard tabs tonight! My/his spikes lower is now a paper weight! I guess I will call this a learning experience for him... If you're going to go ahead and retire the lower to paperweight status, I'd just epoxy the whole thing together. Trigger guard - broken ear - non broken ear - front attach points, making them all "one piece" by gluing them all together. If it's only a paperweight that you're bringing out of retirement, what does it matter? Like mentioned, it can be welded, but by the time you pay to weld it, pay to refinish it, and hope it worked, you'd be close to simply buying another lower for the $80 that they cost. I have seen them repaired with JB Weld and then touched up with paint on the "ear". It is a non-load bearing part. Or the Stark grip. |
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I want to switch my trigger guard to the Spikes curved guard. Any thoughts how to get the second pin out? Or will I just have to cut the trigger guard I have now? I have to ask this... Why? This always bothers me when someone questions what/why someone is doing something. Who cares why he is doing it. And what place is it of yours to question it. He wants to change it out and asked for help on how to do it, not if it was ok with you. Get over yourself, jeez To the OP, like has already been mentioned by others, how ever you plan to get it out be sure to support the "ears" Good luck +100 |
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Be sure to support the "ears" while driving out the roll pin or you'll end with a broken "ear" like this. http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx282/jaston87/Guns/LMTlowerbrokenear1.jpg that looks like my lower
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Sweet!! Great suggestions guys! I used the c-clamp method to put the pin in the trigger guard. Although I probably would have remembered, it's great that so many people chimed in on supporting the ears.
The "why" is because it feels more comfortable, looks better, unique, more room, zombies can't eat your finger if you have this, and because it makes me jihad-proof. :) If you haven't shot one with a curved trigger guard, you should try it. You might like it. ;) I'll toss up some pics once I get it in. I'm not a fan of the magpul one since it's plastic. ST is .05 cheaper and aluminum. :) |
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