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After much consideration I decided to pull the trigger on a real Colt.  I'm working on the chief trying to get approval for personally owned patrol rifles (right now the PD issues Mini-14 Ranch Rifles and we are not allowed to carry our own rifles).  If he signs off on my suggested policy then Colt will for sure be an approved brand, and I'm in "need" of an M4 type carbine anyway.  Should the deal fall through on carrying it at work, it will still serve a purpose both at home for defense and for general range use and competition.  

I found it for about $1100, not a smoking deal-though fair IMO, but at a shop that offers layaway, and I simply can't afford to drop all the cash at once and I don't want to use credit.  So, I'm looking forward to picking it up and hopefully carrying it on-duty.

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where did u get one for 1100 i want one

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Only thing better is a 6921.

CD

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Excellent choice ––––   that said,  if the paperwork falls through for carrying it in the patrol car,  an Aimpoint on the mini would make it a bit more capable carbine.   I have a GB model and took the time to get about 10, 20 round magazines that run right,  and while its not as accurate as any of my AR's,  if it were the only thing i had, i wouldn't feel under-gunned.  

Good luck with the new Colt though

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Yeah, I actually really like the Mini-14, I'd just rather have an AR type gun for the more available options and better ergonomics.  The Mini issued to me has been 100% reliable and more than accurate enough for 100 yard and closer work.   I'm not sure why the department bought the Mini-14 Ranch Rifle instead of the GB, I would imagine the answer is only known to the now retired chief. The iron sights on the Ranch Rifle are awful.  That, combined with the lack of an optic makes it a lot less useful than it could be.  With the Ultimak rail and an Aimpoint, I'll be happy enough, I just wish the Mini 20 round factory magazines were not 3 to 4 times as expensive as quality AR mags.  Obviously the best solution is the chief signing off on personally owned patrol rifles.

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Does Colt make a Middy?

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6920 is the perfect choice as a first AR in my opinion.  

Before the BCM, Spikes or DD crowd shows up.  Keep in mind the 6920 is the Golden Standard!  It is the civilian version of the actual US military M4, everything on the market (no matter how quality it is) is still just a copy of the TDP.  The 6920 is also a great choice because it can be modified a million different ways, its as affordable as any other quality AR, it will always have excellent resale value and it has the most recognizable name in the industry.  Theres simply nothing to regret when choosing to buy one.

I also own a DD middy, but have yet to shoot or compare it to my Colt.  And while Im absolutely sure that DD is a winner, theres still no argument that Colt was here long before me.. and that Colt will be here long after Im gone.

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After much consideration I decided to pull the trigger on a real Colt.  I'm working on the chief trying to get approval for personally owned patrol rifles (right now the PD issues Mini-14 Ranch Rifles and we are not allowed to carry our own rifles).  If he signs off on my suggested policy then Colt will for sure be an approved brand, and I'm in "need" of an M4 type carbine anyway.  Should the deal fall through on carrying it at work, it will still serve a purpose both at home for defense and for general range use and competition.  



I found it for about $1100, not a smoking deal-though fair IMO, but at a shop that offers layaway, and I simply can't afford to drop all the cash at once and I don't want to use credit.  So, I'm looking forward to picking it up and hopefully carrying it on-duty.

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Wow, why'd you have to go and stir up trouble? I tried to bite my tongue, but I just can't let this go.

If every other top-tier AR on the market (BCM, DD, Spikes, etc.) is just a "copy" of a quality product (the Colt), what implication would this have regarding the quality of the copies? Answer: there is no implication. A copy of something is qualitatively identical to the thing it is copying. Thus, if a Spikes is just a copy of the Colt, then I feel great knowing that I paid 300$ less for mine. Being a "copy" of a quality product has no practical relevance to the quality of the copy. Sorry if I sound pissy, I'm just tired of this misinformed BS.

As for the OP, you made a phenomenal choice. That rifle will serve you well for many years.

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There is nothing misinformed about what I wrote.  

Buying a Colt AR-15, there is a sense of pride and ownership that you get from having "the real thing".  Because you know that 6920 is using the exact same parts that inside of the M4's which have been fielded in combat for the last 25 years has year.  How many conflicts has a BCM, DD, Spikes, etc rifle fought in?  How many militaries depend on them?  How many people have trusted their lives to them in actual warfare?  

With the 6920 you know that the rifle in your hands, is made with the exact same parts that our military depends on every day to defend and protect this country.  Dont sit there and tell me that means nothing.  Other brands are using their best interpretation (i.e. copy) of those parts to build a quality rifle.  

Furthermore you will feel great paying $300 less for a brand like Spikes, right up until that day in the future when you find out what your rifle is worth.  Maybe its because the company is no longer around.  Maybe its because you are trying to sell it and cant get anywhere close to your asking price.  Maybe you want to part it out or trade parts.  No matter how you try to paint that picture, it will always be considered a copy.  And once you step away from the internet forums, even less people will recognize these names/manufacters.

And I'll be the first to admit.. some manufacters have copied that formula extremely well.  BCM, Spikes, DD, LMT.  Some have copied this formula not so well:  DPMS, Bushmaster, etc.  Othes have even made their copies to even 'better' specs:  Noveske, KAC, etc.  But all of them, no matter better or worse will still be a copy of the real thing.  With even the best ones usually being being defined on a sheet of paper as milspec this or commercial spec that.  

The Colt on the other hand can be described by its combat experience.  As I said before.  It is the real thing.

Even the OP himself said his Chief might allow this rifle for duty.. simply because its a Colt.  He doesnt need to show a milspec sheet of paper to convince someone.

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There is nothing misinformed about what I wrote.  

Buying a Colt AR-15, there is a sense of pride and ownership that you get from having "the real thing".  Because you know that 6920 is using the exact same parts that are inside of the M4's which have been fielded in combat for the last 25 years.  How many conflicts has a BCM, DD, Spikes, etc rifle fought in?  How many entire militaries depend on them?  How many soldiers have trusted their lives to them in actual warfare?  Hell do local Police even use those names?

With the 6920 you know that the rifle in your hands, is made with the exact same parts that our military depends on every day to defend and protect this country.  Dont sit there and tell me that means nothing.  Other brands are using their best interpretation (i.e. copy) of those parts to build a quality rifle.  

Furthermore you will feel great paying $300 less for a brand like Spikes, right up until that day in the future when you find out what your rifle is worth.  Maybe its because the company is no longer around.  Maybe its because you are trying to sell it and cant get anywhere close to your asking price.  Maybe you want to part it out or trade parts.  No matter how you try to paint that picture, it will always be considered a copy.  And once you step away from the internet forums, even less people will recognize these names/manufacters.

And I'll be the first to admit.. some manufacters have copied that formula extremely well.  BCM, Spikes, DD, LMT.  Some have copied this formula not so well:  DPMS, Bushmaster, etc.  Othes have even made their copies to even 'better' specs:  Noveske, KAC, etc.  But all of them, no matter better or worse will still be a copy of the real thing.  With even the best ones usually being being defined on a sheet of paper as milspec this or commercial spec that.  

The Colt on the other hand can be described by its combat experience.  As I said before.  It is the real thing.

Even the OP himself said his Chief might allow this rifle for duty.. simply because its a Colt.  He doesnt need to show a milspec sheet of paper to convince someone.

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If it means nothing.. then tell that to people like the OP's Police Chief, not me.  Because a sheet of paper listing a bunch of specs means little to people like that making the real decisions and carrying the responsibility of those who put their life on the line to complete their duties.  Besides shooting paper, steel or taking training courses tell me exactly what organizations are issuing these flavour-of-the-month copies to get the job done?  After all.. listening to you guys its always the same thing: "the same quality for less".  Surely same quality for less has to mention something to somebody making life or death decisions for others?  Right?

I've stated my case well enough already.

And for the record.. Id like to remove KAC from the list of "copycats".  They deserve more respect than to be compared in the same sentence with other copycat manufacturers.   They took Stoner's design, improved it and have went on to prove it in real combat over several years.  When BCM, DD or Spikes gets on that level, then I'll show them the same respect.

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No, actually you haven't. You failed to answer my question, and have persisted in spouting irrelevancies that have no bearing on the quality of the products in question.

Considering your post count, I'm going to just say that you're a troll and be done with it.