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Posted: 2/4/2011 12:48:54 PM EDT
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I've tried a search and either the info doesn't exist (doubtful) or it's operator error and I'm searching for the wrong things (likely.)
What is the advantage of a two stage trigger over a single stage? What is the practical application of such a system? What exactly does "battle trigger" mean? I don't do precision shooting, so my ARs are just for plinking and self-defense, so what type of trigger should I be looking for? One of my builds is using a DPMS LPK and the trigger is just AWFUL. It's gritty as can be. Another one used a LPK from Del-Ton (provided with the rifle kit) and it was shooting bursts, so I yanked it out and am now looking for another decent FCG to go in. |
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Benefits of a two stage are that you can take up more than half the pull with the first stage, and the second stage is only a pound or two, much better for accurate shooting. Single stage is one pull at full weight, like your stock trigger.
I would get a Geissle SSA-E and be done with it. good two stage trigger, 2 lb first stage, 1-1.5 lb second. Its well worth the $200 you will pay. |
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Benefits of a two stage are that you can take up more than half the pull with the first stage, and the second stage is only a pound or two, much better for accurate shooting. Single stage is one pull at full weight, like your stock trigger. I would get a Geissle SSA-E and be done with it. good two stage trigger, 2 lb first stage, 1-1.5 lb second. Its well worth the $200 you will pay. So essentially, if I understand correctly, the 2 stage places 60% or so on the first stage and 40% or so on the second. I can see how a 1-1.5lb pull weight would increase accuracy, however, I'm having a hard time grasping how at a higher first stage pull weight, you wouldn't just blow right through the second to fire. 
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Benefits of a two stage are that you can take up more than half the pull with the first stage, and the second stage is only a pound or two, much better for accurate shooting. Single stage is one pull at full weight, like your stock trigger. I would get a Geissle SSA-E and be done with it. good two stage trigger, 2 lb first stage, 1-1.5 lb second. Its well worth the $200 you will pay. So essentially, if I understand correctly, the 2 stage places 60% or so on the first stage and 40% or so on the second. I can see how a 1-1.5lb pull weight would increase accuracy, however, I'm having a hard time grasping how at a higher first stage pull weight, you wouldn't just blow right through the second to fire. Many (not all) two stage triggers have a discernible 'stop' when you reach the second stage. Ever fire a Glock? Kinda like that, but better. As for the original post, "Battle Trigger" is a trade name used by Spike's Tactical for their single stage, nickel-boron coated FCG. It generally provides a smoother, less gritty trigger compared to a stock "mil-spec" trigger while still providing "mil-spec" reliability due to the full-weight hammer and springs. |
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I second the Geissle SSA. I don't know what the 'E' version of this trigger is. I got mine from Palmetto State Armory last year for $170 ea. Great trigger. I put one in both my AR's and one in my AR10. My groups tightened up after I installed them. Shabo SSA-E is the "Enhanced" version with slightly lower pull weight and slightly crisper break. I sure do love my SSA. 
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Installed a Rock River Arms two stage NM trigger tonight in a new lower.
Dry, the pulls were 2.5# first stage and 5# second stage. There is a distinct stop with an audible tap at the end of the first stage. Very controllable. Greased at all points of contact, the first stage was 2.0# and the second stage 4.75#. This was after about 100 cycles of the hammer, disconnector and trigger. Pull, tap, pull, bang. Very controllable. Second stage has little to no discernable movement. Pressure increases and it goes. Out of the package from Brownell's, $120 plus shipping. Since it goes into a large varmint rifle eventually, I wouldn't want no 2# trigger of one stage. |
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Benefits of a two stage are that you can take up more than half the pull with the first stage, and the second stage is only a pound or two, much better for accurate shooting. Single stage is one pull at full weight, like your stock trigger. I would get a Geissle SSA-E and be done with it. good two stage trigger, 2 lb first stage, 1-1.5 lb second. Its well worth the $200 you will pay. So essentially, if I understand correctly, the 2 stage places 60% or so on the first stage and 40% or so on the second. I can see how a 1-1.5lb pull weight would increase accuracy, however, I'm having a hard time grasping how at a higher first stage pull weight, you wouldn't just blow right through the second to fire. Many (not all) two stage triggers have a discernible 'stop' when you reach the second stage. Ever fire a Glock? Kinda like that, but better. As for the original post, "Battle Trigger" is a trade name used by Spike's Tactical for their single stage, nickel-boron coated FCG. It generally provides a smoother, less gritty trigger compared to a stock "mil-spec" trigger while still providing "mil-spec" reliability due to the full-weight hammer and springs. +1. A lot depends on what you want to spend. For what uses your stated, I'd go with Spikes boron trigger. It is very slick and much less expensive than the SSA (of which I have several and they are great but expensive). |
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I've tried a search and either the info doesn't exist (doubtful) or it's operator error and I'm searching for the wrong things (likely.) What is the advantage of a two stage trigger over a single stage? What is the practical application of such a system? What exactly does "battle trigger" mean? I don't do precision shooting, so my ARs are just for plinking and self-defense, so what type of trigger should I be looking for? One of my builds is using a DPMS LPK and the trigger is just AWFUL. It's gritty as can be. Another one used a LPK from Del-Ton (provided with the rifle kit) and it was shooting bursts, so I yanked it out and am now looking for another decent FCG to go in. It's a term used by couch commandos. If I wanted a single stage FCG I'd get a RRA. Two stage. SSA Sorry, that was a brain Fart |
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