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1/25/2011 5:31:12 PM EDT
Ruger SR-556 upper on a JD Machine A2-style lower. Bullet button and 10/30 PMag. $1500 out the door.



Good price? Bad price? I've done a lot of reading on the parts involved and am fine with that, but want to know what Arfcom thinks about the deal I got.
1/25/2011 5:32:03 PM EDT
[#1]
We need pics to make a decision
1/25/2011 5:38:36 PM EDT
[#2]
All in due time, friend. 10 day bullshit waiting period. Rest assured, there will be pics next week.



And I must say this is one of the cleanest looking black rifles I've ever laid eyes upon. Nary a tool mark on any surface of the thing. Absolutely beautiful.
1/25/2011 6:05:23 PM EDT
[#3]
why the JDM lower when a complete SR costs the same?
1/25/2011 6:11:17 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
why the JDM lower when a complete SR costs the same?


Local gun shop here said they would do $1450 for complete SR556 without me even pushing that hard.....  

Not sure how ruger is going to feel about honoring their "warranty" when you didn't buy the gun complete.
1/25/2011 6:17:06 PM EDT
[#5]



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Quoted:

why the JDM lower when a complete SR costs the same?




Local gun shop here said they would do $1450 for complete SR556 without me even pushing that hard.....  



Not sure how ruger is going to feel about honoring their "warranty" when you didn't buy the gun complete.


Why wouldn't they honor a warranty on a product they produced and sell on its own? That makes no sense.

 
1/25/2011 6:44:09 PM EDT
[#6]
Run that "bullet button" thing by me again?  I know it's some kind of California thing but I forget.

Sounds like a nice rifle.  I'm not too sure on that price but maybe things are higher in CA.
1/25/2011 6:46:49 PM EDT
[#7]
Thats funny.  Something must be wrong...I don't see any pictures!!
1/25/2011 6:54:20 PM EDT
[#8]
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Thats funny.  Something must be wrong...I don't see any pictures!!


He said he has a 10 day waiting period.

1/25/2011 6:57:07 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
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Thats funny.  Something must be wrong...I don't see any pictures!!


He said he has a 10 day waiting period.



Yeah I saw that after my post.  I was hoping no one noticed.
1/25/2011 7:04:03 PM EDT
[#10]
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Ruger SR-556 upper on a JD Machine A2-style lower. Bullet button and 10/30 PMag. $1500 out the door.

Good price? Bad price? I've done a lot of reading on the parts involved and am fine with that, but want to know what Arfcom thinks about the deal I got.


Considering a LaRue DMR-16 upper is $1,300, and a Stealth is $1,200I'd say you got a bad deal.  
1/25/2011 7:13:00 PM EDT
[#11]



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Ruger SR-556 upper on a JD Machine A2-style lower. Bullet button and 10/30 PMag. $1500 out the door.



Good price? Bad price? I've done a lot of reading on the parts involved and am fine with that, but want to know what Arfcom thinks about the deal I got.




Considering a LaRue DMR-16 upper is $1,300, and a Stealth is $1,200I'd say you got a bad deal.  


I am 19, so I am stuck buying complete rifles. I'm also limited to what I can get in-store or buying from an already CA-compliant rifle online from out of state, and paying $80-100 to have it transferred and shipped here.



It's not like a had a lot to work with, here.



 
1/25/2011 7:13:28 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
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Ruger SR-556 upper on a JD Machine A2-style lower. Bullet button and 10/30 PMag. $1500 out the door.

Good price? Bad price? I've done a lot of reading on the parts involved and am fine with that, but want to know what Arfcom thinks about the deal I got.


Considering a LaRue DMR-16 upper is $1,300, and a Stealth is $1,200I'd say you got a bad deal.  


Or buy a complete BCM for the same price. Im looking at geting an A4 from BCM for 1200 i think it is
1/25/2011 7:17:08 PM EDT
[#13]





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Run that "bullet button" thing by me again?  I know it's some kind of California thing but I forget.





Sounds like a nice rifle.  I'm not too sure on that price but maybe things are higher in CA.



Basically it replaces the stock magazine release and makes it so it is impossible to release the magazine with a human fingertip. The tip of a bullet, an Allen wrench, or ballpoint pen all come to mind as things to use it.





CA law makes defines an assault rifle as any self-loading rifle that has both a detachable magazine in addition to a collapsing stock or pistol grip, and perhaps a few other things. The bullet button is the easiest compromise to get the most out of an AR-style rifle and still be legal in CA. You can also keep the detachable mags if you don't have a pistol grip and have a fixed stock, but this is only really useful for people who own pre-ban "hi-cap" mags, as it is also illegal to use more than a 10 rounder on a bullet-button equipped rifle.





Are you confused yet? If not, you weren't reading what I just wrote.





 
1/25/2011 7:20:13 PM EDT
[#14]





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Ruger SR-556 upper on a JD Machine A2-style lower. Bullet button and 10/30 PMag. $1500 out the door.





Good price? Bad price? I've done a lot of reading on the parts involved and am fine with that, but want to know what Arfcom thinks about the deal I got.






Considering a LaRue DMR-16 upper is $1,300, and a Stealth is $1,200I'd say you got a bad deal.  






Or buy a complete BCM for the same price. Im looking at geting an A4 from BCM for 1200 i think it is
I'd have to have it shipped to an FFL outside California, have them install a bullet button on it plus a 10 round mag, then have them ship it and pay whatever the local gunstore charges for an out-of-state transfer. In parts and the end destination's transfer fee alone that $1,200 plus $25+ for the bullet button, probably at least $10 for the new mag (but probably more), and the closet FFL that will transfer black rifles charges $95 from out of state, and on top of that, the state of CA charges me another $25 for buying a firearm. That's an extra $145+ right there, minimum.





Must be nice living in a free state where you can go out an buy a full-auto Colt with a drum mag online and have it shipped to your door for 20 bucks...
 
1/25/2011 7:20:21 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:

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Run that "bullet button" thing by me again?  I know it's some kind of California thing but I forget.

Sounds like a nice rifle.  I'm not too sure on that price but maybe things are higher in CA.

Basically it replaces the stock magazine release and makes it so it is impossible to release the magazine with a human fingertip. The tip of a bullet, and allen wrench, or ballpoint pin all come to mind as things to use it.

CA law makes defines an assault rifle as any self-loading rifle that has both a detachable magazine in addition to a collapsing stock or pistol grip, and perhaps a few other things. The bullet button is the easiest compromise to get the most out of an AR-style rifle and still be legal in CA. You can also keep the detachable mags if you don't have a pistol grip and have a fixed stock, but this is only really useful for people who own pre-ban "hi-cap" mags, as it is also illegal to use more than a 10 rounder on a bullet-button equipped rifle.

Are you confused yet? If not, you weren't reading what I just wrote.
 



My head now hurts
1/25/2011 7:22:58 PM EDT
[#16]



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Run that "bullet button" thing by me again?  I know it's some kind of California thing but I forget.



Sounds like a nice rifle.  I'm not too sure on that price but maybe things are higher in CA.


Basically it replaces the stock magazine release and makes it so it is impossible to release the magazine with a human fingertip. The tip of a bullet, and allen wrench, or ballpoint pin all come to mind as things to use it.



CA law makes defines an assault rifle as any self-loading rifle that has both a detachable magazine in addition to a collapsing stock or pistol grip, and perhaps a few other things. The bullet button is the easiest compromise to get the most out of an AR-style rifle and still be legal in CA. You can also keep the detachable mags if you don't have a pistol grip and have a fixed stock, but this is only really useful for people who own pre-ban "hi-cap" mags, as it is also illegal to use more than a 10 rounder on a bullet-button equipped rifle.



Are you confused yet? If not, you weren't reading what I just wrote.

 






My head now hurts


Then you have learned something, Padawan.



 
1/25/2011 7:34:28 PM EDT
[#17]
Move out...

this is the only true answer for you....and prolly wouldn't have costed as much.
1/25/2011 7:37:15 PM EDT
[#18]



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Move out...



this is the only true answer for you....and prolly wouldn't have costed as much.


Well, that's the plan... I will say that I will not be living in CA by year's end. And the Army doesn't seem to send many combat arms troops to Fort Irwin.



 
1/25/2011 7:47:07 PM EDT
[#19]
OP why is your avatar upside down, is California..........nevermind
1/25/2011 9:10:52 PM EDT
[#20]
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OP why is your avatar upside down, is California..........nevermind



HA!
1/25/2011 9:53:37 PM EDT
[#21]


If you're happy with it, you did good. The Ruger is what first turned me onto AR's, I liked the lines and the handling. I ended up picking up a Smith and Wesson 15T.... same basic look, but DI.


ETA: Get outa Ca... thats no place for an ARFCOMer.
1/26/2011 9:21:25 AM EDT
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OP why is your avatar upside down, is California..........nevermind
My state is in distress. As usual.



 
1/26/2011 10:04:53 AM EDT
[#23]
Must be nice living in a free state where you can go out an buy a full-auto Colt with a drum mag online and have it shipped to your door for 20 bucks...

I'm sorry CA has brainwashed you into thinking this. It's not that easy, & costs $12K+ & you get put in a gov list & have to pay them $200.
1/26/2011 10:15:54 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:

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why the JDM lower when a complete SR costs the same?


Local gun shop here said they would do $1450 for complete SR556 without me even pushing that hard.....  

Not sure how ruger is going to feel about honoring their "warranty" when you didn't buy the gun complete.

Why wouldn't they honor a warranty on a product they produced and sell on its own? That makes no sense.  


What warranty?  Ruger does not have a warranty.  They are very good about making things right even when the customer fubars something.

From Ruger.com
Why No Warranty Card Has Been Packed With Your New Ruger Firearm?

The Magnuson-Moss Act (Public Law 93-637) does not require any seller or manufacturer of a consumer product to give a written warranty. It does provide that if a written warranty is given, it must be designated as "limited" or as "full" and sets minimum standards for a "full" warranty. Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc. has elected not to provide any written warranty, either "limited" or "full", rather than to attempt to comply with the provisions of the Magnuson-Moss Act and the regulations issued thereunder. There are certain implied warranties under state law with respect to sales of consumer goods. As the extent and interpretation of these implied warranties varies from state to state, you should refer to your state statutes. Sturm, Ruger & Company wishes to assure its customers of its continued interest in providing service to owners of Ruger firearms.
1/26/2011 10:30:15 AM EDT
[#25]
I wonder what they would do if you flew the flag upside down in your yard?

These states rule like they do and flags had no meaning, Im in Wa and the state flag at a local park is destroyed from age and is now a BLUE washington st flag.

From what is avalible to you, I would say you did a DAMN FINE JOB!
1/26/2011 11:02:44 AM EDT
[#26]



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Must be nice living in a free state where you can go out an buy a full-auto Colt with a drum mag online and have it shipped to your door for 20 bucks...



I'm sorry CA has brainwashed you into thinking this. It's not that easy, & costs $12K+ & you get put in a gov list & have to pay them $200.







I am actually quite well versed on federal firearms laws and those of most other states. Hell, I've got the NRA's legal guide has a permanent spot on my browser toolbar.



 
1/26/2011 12:25:08 PM EDT
[#27]
If you are happy with the deal that is all that matters. I myself am not a big fan of Ruger AR's, or  piston AR's from any manufacturer.
I left that God forsaken country of Californistan in 1996 and have never been back since. I thought the gun laws were crazy then, no way I could ever go back there. But I do thank you for your service ansd I hope you make it out of there soon.
1/26/2011 12:36:17 PM EDT
[#28]
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Ruger SR-556 upper on a JD Machine A2-style lower. Bullet button and 10/30 PMag. $1500 out the door.

Good price? Bad price? I've done a lot of reading on the parts involved and am fine with that, but want to know what Arfcom thinks about the deal I got.


Considering a LaRue DMR-16 upper is $1,300, and a Stealth is $1,200I'd say you got a bad deal.  


Or buy a complete BCM for the same price. Im looking at geting an A4 from BCM for 1200 i think it is
I'd have to have it shipped to an FFL outside California, have them install a bullet button on it plus a 10 round mag, then have them ship it and pay whatever the local gunstore charges for an out-of-state transfer. In parts and the end destination's transfer fee alone that $1,200 plus $25+ for the bullet button, probably at least $10 for the new mag (but probably more), and the closet FFL that will transfer black rifles charges $95 from out of state, and on top of that, the state of CA charges me another $25 for buying a firearm. That's an extra $145+ right there, minimum.

Must be nice living in a free state where you can go out an buy a full-auto Colt with a drum mag online and have it shipped to your door for 20 bucks...

 




Just wait a few weeks, Uncle Sammy(if you know who I mean) is going to (once again) try to ban any mag over 6-10 rounds nationwide.
1/26/2011 12:41:03 PM EDT
[#29]



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Ruger SR-556 upper on a JD Machine A2-style lower. Bullet button and 10/30 PMag. $1500 out the door.



Good price? Bad price? I've done a lot of reading on the parts involved and am fine with that, but want to know what Arfcom thinks about the deal I got.




Considering a LaRue DMR-16 upper is $1,300, and a Stealth is $1,200I'd say you got a bad deal.  




Or buy a complete BCM for the same price. Im looking at geting an A4 from BCM for 1200 i think it is
I'd have to have it shipped to an FFL outside California, have them install a bullet button on it plus a 10 round mag, then have them ship it and pay whatever the local gunstore charges for an out-of-state transfer. In parts and the end destination's transfer fee alone that $1,200 plus $25+ for the bullet button, probably at least $10 for the new mag (but probably more), and the closet FFL that will transfer black rifles charges $95 from out of state, and on top of that, the state of CA charges me another $25 for buying a firearm. That's an extra $145+ right there, minimum.



Must be nice living in a free state where you can go out an buy a full-auto Colt with a drum mag online and have it shipped to your door for 20 bucks...



 

Just wait a few weeks, Uncle Sammy(if you know who I mean) is going to (once again) try to ban any mag over 6-10 rounds nationwide.


It will fail. Supporting gun control, even in the wake of Tucson, is political suicide right now.



 
1/26/2011 1:04:57 PM EDT
[#30]
I hope it does, how anyone can think that banning would lower crime I'll never know. I feel for those traped in ban states
1/26/2011 1:32:58 PM EDT
[#31]





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I hope it does, how anyone can think that banning would lower crime I'll never know. I feel for those traped in ban states



On the other hand, though, if another rendition of the AWB passes federal it will have little to no affect on those already in bad-off states. Thanks for your sympathy, regardless.



2000 Posts.





 
1/26/2011 3:40:58 PM EDT
[#32]
If you like it , screw what anyone else says............but you did ask for opinions
Shoot it, shoot it, shoot it and enjoy



Aim small, miss small
1/26/2011 9:43:20 PM EDT
[#33]



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If you like it , screw what anyone else says............but you did ask for opinions

Shoot it, shoot it, shoot it and enjoy
Aim small, miss small


On the price. But everyone who had issue with that told me I should've done something else that really wouldn't have been possible for me to do.



I'll enjoy it regardless.



 
1/27/2011 2:52:49 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
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why the JDM lower when a complete SR costs the same?


Local gun shop here said they would do $1450 for complete SR556 without me even pushing that hard.....  

Not sure how ruger is going to feel about honoring their "warranty" when you didn't buy the gun complete.

Why wouldn't they honor a warranty on a product they produced and sell on its own? That makes no sense.  


What warranty?  Ruger does not have a warranty.  They are very good about making things right even when the customer fubars something.
Why No Warranty Card Has Been Packed With Your New Ruger Firearm?


From Ruger.com

The Magnuson-Moss Act (Public Law 93-637) does not require any seller or manufacturer of a consumer product to give a written warranty. It does provide that if a written warranty is given, it must be designated as "limited" or as "full" and sets minimum standards for a "full" warranty. Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc. has elected not to provide any written warranty, either "limited" or "full", rather than to attempt to comply with the provisions of the Magnuson-Moss Act and the regulations issued thereunder. There are certain implied warranties under state law with respect to sales of consumer goods. As the extent and interpretation of these implied warranties varies from state to state, you should refer to your state statutes. Sturm, Ruger & Company wishes to assure its customers of its continued interest in providing service to owners of Ruger firearms.



This is funny, because my brother in law just bought a new SR9C handgun....and it DEFINATELY had a warranty card in it. I'm the one that went online and registered it for him.
1/27/2011 8:12:53 AM EDT
[#35]
Eh, $1500 seems a bit too much for a Ruger to me. If you were gonna spend that much you coulda bought a top-tier AR like a Colt 6940, DD V5 M4, or a BCM. Though... I'm not too sure about what those would cost in California. Probably you could at least find a Colt around, those are pretty prolific.
1/27/2011 10:25:59 AM EDT
[#36]





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Eh, $1500 seems a bit too much for a Ruger to me. If you were gonna spend that much you coulda bought a top-tier AR like a Colt 6940, DD V5 M4, or a BCM. Though... I'm not too sure about what those would cost in California. Probably you could at least find a Colt around, those are pretty prolific.



I probably could, but I'd have to steal it from a police car or special order it from somewhere like 75 miles away and pay $2000 because the only Colt legal in CA is the 6921, and even that is iffy. Firearm-related felonies do not look good on your record, especially if you get them before you are even old enough to drink.





 
1/27/2011 12:43:58 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:Just wait a few weeks, Uncle Sammy(if you know who I mean) is going to (once again) try to ban any mag over 6-10 rounds nationwide.

If it passes congress, well then Uncle Sammy isn't the person to worry about.

I'm not worried.
1/27/2011 1:33:23 PM EDT
[#38]
Doesnt sound like you did too bad OP, all things considered.
1/27/2011 1:53:05 PM EDT
[#39]



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Doesnt sound like you did too bad OP, all things considered.


Yeah. Comes with living in California. Kinda ruins one of the great aspects of the AR-15, modularity in both the rifle itself and in choice of what parts go into it.



 
2/6/2011 5:03:25 PM EDT
[#40]
Broke it in at the range today. 300 rounds of XM193. Ran smooth, amazingly accurate. Only had to turn the windage 3-4 clicks to the right to zero it (25yd). Seems like it recoils less than an M4 for some reason. Also, an inspection of the internals after shooting revealed it to be only slightly dirtier than before I shot it at all. Overall, very impressed and satisfied with my purchase. Got a few boxes of Federal 223L on order to use as my HD load-out.



No pics, maybe tomorrow though.
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