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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - LMT (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 1/12/2011 3:44:24 PM EDT
| I read where members frequently recommend such brands as Colt, Spikes, DD and Bravo as solid choices for quality rifles. By comparison, I do not hear much about the offerings from LMT. Is there a reason for this? Thanks. |
| LMT is fantastic. I believe they actually have the most accurate Chrome lined barrels on the market. Or at least technically should be... i haven't actually researched or compared accuracy reports... but they make their chromelined barrels a special way that is inherently more accurate than other manufacturers. |
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I consider LMT one of the premier rifles.
I consider "The Chart" a silly use of time. All of this nonsense about "not parked under the FSB" and "non-tapered FSB pins" just gets the couch comandos on a tear. In real life it means little to nothing. It's the bigger things that matter and that is where LMT shines. Bill |
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I consider LMT one of the premier rifles. I consider "The Chart" a silly waste of time. All of this nonsense about "not parked under the FSB" and "non-tapered FSB pins" just gets the couch comandos on a tear. In real life it means little to nothing. It's the bigger things that matter and that is where LMT shines. Bill Especially the bolts themselves. LMT seems to have that down to an art form. Some consider their Enhanced Bolt the best on the market. They also sport some well-above-average barrels. Some common complaints about them are a seemingly high number of canted front sight bases compared to other top names, and of course the MIM gas keys. There seems to be many complaints made just after opening the box, and never any "this is how it affected my rifle" reports. |
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1. This place is fickle 5yrs ago LMT was all the rage here. 2. I think price point hurts LMT right now BCM, Spikes among others are putting out a quality product cheaper "i" never see cheap new LMT uppers they always seem to be the same price everywhere I have two LMT uppers with Colt bcg in them a 16" and a 10.5" no regrets whatsoever. Heard lot's of people say how finicky 10.5's could be....... Mine runs like a sewing machine |
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Heard lot's of people say how finicky 10.5's could be....... Mine runs like a sewing machine +1, Never a single hiccup with good ammo. Doesn't like Tula, simply because the powder charge isn't enough to reliably push the BCG back. However it does run with Wolf, and anything Brass. LMT is excellent, love mine. |
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1. This place is fickle 5yrs ago LMT was all the rage here. 2. I think price point hurts LMT right now BCM, Spikes among others are putting out a quality product cheaper "i" never see cheap new LMT uppers they always seem to be the same price everywhere I have two LMT uppers with Colt bcg in them a 16" and a 10.5" no regrets whatsoever. Heard lot's of people say how finicky 10.5's could be....... Mine runs like a sewing machine I have one of their 10.5 inch uppers on an lmt lower that I did a form 1 on. I had issues with the first barrel keyholing 55gr ammo. LMT's customer service was good though. They tested the upper and replaced the barrel. They reinstalled my kac rail and put the flash hider on with a peal washer for me since I wanted to run my halo. Gun still keyholed a few silver bear rounds but ran everything else fine. I blamed it on the ammo. With both barrels it fired everything put through it. Gun doesn't have that much of a break in yet but so far I'm happy with it. I'd buy another lmt without worry in the future. Mistakes happen and they handled mine quickly and professionally. |
I got one of the LMTs with the dreaded, canted front sights. It was my first AR15 ever and it took me a long time to recognize it. When I called LMT, the referred me to the dealer I purchased the upper from since I never bought direct from them. The dealer wanted me to test fire it?!?! Too much hassle. I'm going to just take off the front sight and put a low pro gas block on it and a rail. Disappointed as I was, I would buy another LMT. Now I could spot a manufacturing issue very quickly.
About their barrels, with my Aimpoint 2MOA ML3 the rifle is very accurate! Like I said, I would buy another LMT. |
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10.5" MRP
18.5" MRP 12.5" Piston MRP 16" .308 MWS Other then now being able to use Noveske Barrels in my MRP's I will keep buying from LMT. About CS they have the best! No questions asked repair service. You call explian they ask you to ship the item, they fix it, and ship it back to you. |
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if you want an LMT then buy one. they have had issues lately though. so take all the posts of blind LMT love and balance it with the posts telling you LMT aint perfect and neither is their CS lately.
but no company is. LMT makes a solid rifle enough of the time that you can buy with confidence, thats about the best you can say of any of the 5-7 MFGs that makes good guns these days, |
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Lmt is typically higher priced than others and has some littl things frowned onby the chart, like semi carriers and not parked under the fsb. My first rifle was an Lmt. I've never had a problem, but I'm just one guy and a statistical fart. LMT offers full auto carriers at no extra charge, it just has to be requested when calling in the order. About no parking under the FSB, seriously who gives a Sh***, neither is the FN SCAR, that didn't stop me from buying one. |
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I read where members frequently recommend such brands as Colt, Spikes, DD and Bravo as solid choices for quality rifles. By comparison, I do not hear much about the offerings from LMT. Is there a reason for this? Thanks. Well, those are all great companies, if it means anything to you LMT, Colt, and DD are all military contractors. BCM and Spikes are still very nice choices as well.... |
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I like LMT! I've gone all the way up and down the "chart", started with CMT, RRA, and moving up to Noveske, BCM, before finally settling down on my 14.5" LMT with pinned/welded muzzle device. It works, I've beaten it at Magpul carbine classes and shooting in the woods with friends, so I'd wholly recommend LMT to people. |
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Only people with bad Karma get bad LMT's. That's a fact. Everyone knows it. Blind love all the way, baby. Blind love. I will say I've built up a lot of bad karma in my life......... You are absolved! Your next LMT will be perfect or I will buy it from you at half price! |
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I have owned an LMT 14.5" and an LMT 10.5". The 14.5" had a permed vortex. The 10.5" has just passed the 2000 mark. I have never experienced any sort of malfunction, stoppage, nor failure of any kind. The gun has gone bang each and every time I have pulled the trigger. I owned the 14.5" LMT for years. I have only kept track of about 12,000 rounds through it, but conservatively I would guess I fired around 20,000 - 22,000 rounds from the upper. The only issues I ever had from this rifle arose when I fired 5x 500 round cases of Barnaul ammo in one day while on a registered FA lower. The chamber was EXTREMELY dirty and a round got stuck. 2 minutes with a cleaning rod and it was cleared. This happened when there were about 80 rounds left. The weapon was also dirty to begin with that day, and being fired in FA for 1000 rounds of Russian lacquer cased ammo I think one stuck case is amazing performance. After the case was cleared I added some lube and we fired off the last of the ammo without incident.
I would trust an LMT with my life in a heartbeat. Keep in mind the US Gov't buys LMT 9" M203s and the Birtish MOD chose an LMT over an offering from FN, HK, KAC, etc. and they have ordered the LMT MWS for their designated marksman program. LMT is top tier. |
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Heard lot's of people say how finicky 10.5's could be....... Mine runs like a sewing machine +1, Never a single hiccup with good ammo. Doesn't like Tula, simply because the powder charge isn't enough to reliably push the BCG back. However it does run with Wolf, and anything Brass. LMT is excellent, love mine. Same here. I tried that Russian ammo in the white box and had the same problem. |
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I have got a 14.5" carbine with a Vortex pinned and welded, this is my first AR. This gun has run flawlessly through about 1000 rounds. I know that is not a lot of rounds but I keep chugging along.
Another nice thing is I have had a question or two that I needed an answer for and called up Gene and one time it was over his noon break. They took my number and I thought that I'll never hear from him. Wasn't even fifteen minutes later and the phone rang. Gene has always answered my questions. Good customer service. Another thing I like is their MRP rifles. I so want to be able to afford one of those! |
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I consider LMT one of the premier rifles. I consider "The Chart" a silly use of time. All of this nonsense about "not parked under the FSB" and "non-tapered FSB pins" just gets the couch comandos on a tear. In real life it means little to nothing. It's the bigger things that matter and that is where LMT shines. Bill +1 LMT = GTG BTW LMT has FA carriers LMT has H buffers listed on website Still dont know why some guys have a problem with a LMT Semi Auto carrier in a standard AR15? |
| this begs the question,, has anyone had the barrel rust under their LMT FSB???? i have two 16'' LMTs, and one has been black-t'ed, so this gripe is moot for that rifle. i swear it looks to me like there is some sort of sealant between the barrel and the FSB on the other,, maybe not. anybody had their rifle rust apart????? [and yes, they are both great rifles] |
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this begs the question,, has anyone had the barrel rust under their LMT FSB???? i have two 16'' LMTs, and one has been black-t'ed, so this gripe is moot for that rifle. i swear it looks to me like there is some sort of sealant between the barrel and the FSB on the other,, maybe not. anybody had their rifle rust apart????? [and yes, they are both great rifles] I have had both the 10.5 and the 14.5 apart. Neither showed any signs of corrosion under the FSB. |
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I had an LMT upper group. Sold it to a friend who still runs it. The top rail on the upper is out of spec so far that a LaRue mount will not lock down on it even with the maxed out setting for tightness. A Daniel Defense mount sits on it now. Rifle has a BCM BCG and has thousands of rounds of steel case through it without any trouble.
I think the reason LMT isn't as recommended anymore for standard rifles (not talking about the MRP) is because Colt prices have come down, and BCM and Daniel Defense make a product that is a better value at this point with better QC/QA. LMT still owns the market when it comes to monolithic uppers. |
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I have a 10.5" LMT SBR and I love it. Reliable and deadly accurate. Pricewise it was no more than any other good name brand. I think I payed maybe $800 OTD for it all minus the BCG (I used a Colt BCG) and stamp. I bought the lower and upper seperately from Quantico's storefront here and form 1'd it.
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I had an LMT upper group. Sold it to a friend who still runs it. The top rail on the upper is out of spec so far that a LaRue mount will not lock down on it even with the maxed out setting for tightness. A Daniel Defense mount sits on it now. Rifle has a BCM BCG and has thousands of rounds of steel case through it without any trouble. I think the reason LMT isn't as recommended anymore for standard rifles (not talking about the MRP) is because Colt prices have come down, and BCM and Daniel Defense make a product that is a better value at this point with better QC/QA. LMT still owns the market when it comes to monolithic uppers. How long ago was that upper purchased? |
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I had an LMT upper group. Sold it to a friend who still runs it. The top rail on the upper is out of spec so far that a LaRue mount will not lock down on it even with the maxed out setting for tightness. A Daniel Defense mount sits on it now. Rifle has a BCM BCG and has thousands of rounds of steel case through it without any trouble. I think the reason LMT isn't as recommended anymore for standard rifles (not talking about the MRP) is because Colt prices have come down, and BCM and Daniel Defense make a product that is a better value at this point with better QC/QA. LMT still owns the market when it comes to monolithic uppers. How long ago was that upper purchased? 4/29/09 |
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I had an LMT upper group. Sold it to a friend who still runs it. The top rail on the upper is out of spec so far that a LaRue mount will not lock down on it even with the maxed out setting for tightness. A Daniel Defense mount sits on it now. Rifle has a BCM BCG and has thousands of rounds of steel case through it without any trouble. I think the reason LMT isn't as recommended anymore for standard rifles (not talking about the MRP) is because Colt prices have come down, and BCM and Daniel Defense make a product that is a better value at this point with better QC/QA. LMT still owns the market when it comes to monolithic uppers. How long ago was that upper purchased? 4/29/09 What's your thought, bad QC during the post-election blitz? |
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I had an LMT upper group. Sold it to a friend who still runs it. The top rail on the upper is out of spec so far that a LaRue mount will not lock down on it even with the maxed out setting for tightness. A Daniel Defense mount sits on it now. Rifle has a BCM BCG and has thousands of rounds of steel case through it without any trouble. I think the reason LMT isn't as recommended anymore for standard rifles (not talking about the MRP) is because Colt prices have come down, and BCM and Daniel Defense make a product that is a better value at this point with better QC/QA. LMT still owns the market when it comes to monolithic uppers. How long ago was that upper purchased? 4/29/09 What's your thought, bad QC during the post-election blitz? That would be my guess. I don't know if picitany rail spec is part of their QC/QA program, though. I would hope so. I would probably never buy LMT again, though. I am not interested in the MRP and BCM has so many OTS configurations, why go anywhere else? Not saying LMT is bad, I just have no more use for them. |
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I consider LMT one of the premier rifles. I consider "The Chart" a silly use of time. All of this nonsense about "not parked under the FSB" and "non-tapered FSB pins" just gets the couch comandos on a tear. In real life it means little to nothing. It's the bigger things that matter and that is where LMT shines. Bill No need to bash the chart. It's just a compilation of data, and I don't know that it misstates anything as it relates to the LMT. The only reason LMT sits to the right of some other mfg's is the S/A bcg, non-tapered pins, and park under fsb. None of these are a big issue. They are still top tier imho. I like the F/A bcg, so I would just ask them to upgrade it for that. If I wanted a monolithic rail or piston gun, LMT would likely be my top choice. |
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this begs the question,, has anyone had the barrel rust under their LMT FSB???? i have two 16'' LMTs, and one has been black-t'ed, so this gripe is moot for that rifle. i swear it looks to me like there is some sort of sealant between the barrel and the FSB on the other,, maybe not. anybody had their rifle rust apart????? [and yes, they are both great rifles] I have 2 LMT myself. Havent seen any rust here in SW FL I could see it makes a HUGE deal to some who want to take off the Fixed FSB But for ME I like Fixed FSB on all my AR15`s |
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Sp the Daniel Defense mount fits gine but the Larue doesn't????????? Quoted:
I had an LMT upper group. Sold it to a friend who still runs it. The top rail on the upper is out of spec so far that a LaRue mount will not lock down on it even with the maxed out setting for tightness. A Daniel Defense mount sits on it now. Rifle has a BCM BCG and has thousands of rounds of steel case through it without any trouble. I think the reason LMT isn't as recommended anymore for standard rifles (not talking about the MRP) is because Colt prices have come down, and BCM and Daniel Defense make a product that is a better value at this point with better QC/QA. LMT still owns the market when it comes to monolithic uppers. |
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Sorry. The Daniel Defense mount fits and the Larue doesn't???????? Quoted:
Sp the Daniel Defense mount fits gine but the Larue doesn't????????? Quoted:
I had an LMT upper group. Sold it to a friend who still runs it. The top rail on the upper is out of spec so far that a LaRue mount will not lock down on it even with the maxed out setting for tightness. A Daniel Defense mount sits on it now. Rifle has a BCM BCG and has thousands of rounds of steel case through it without any trouble. I think the reason LMT isn't as recommended anymore for standard rifles (not talking about the MRP) is because Colt prices have come down, and BCM and Daniel Defense make a product that is a better value at this point with better QC/QA. LMT still owns the market when it comes to monolithic uppers. |
| I have an LMT M4 upper on a Spike's lower. No problems with the gun at all. During a 800 rounds carbine course that I attended I did not service the rifle at all other than with lube. I did have two feed failures, both with old GI magazines. Ammo was Prvi Partizan 55 gr. Very good accuracy for a non-free float carbine barel. Buy with confidence. |
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Too much hassle. I'm going to just take off the front sight and put a low pro gas block on it and a rail. Disappointed as I was, I would buy another LMT. Now I could spot a manufacturing issue very quickly.
