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12/18/2010 5:31:03 PM EDT
I am in the market for an AR-15.  I have a hog problem at my ranch and need to put more rounds down range.  I'm a little overwhelmed with all the brands.  My budget is $1000 (give or take a little bit).  I am interested in new or used (well maintained).  Thanks in advance for you help.
12/18/2010 5:39:19 PM EDT
[#1]
read this first––––>http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=493
 






You won't find too much argument over LMT, Colt and Bravo Co
12/18/2010 7:57:32 PM EDT
[#2]
Might want to check on a Spikes basic set up.
12/18/2010 8:23:23 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Might want to check on a Spikes basic set up.


This is becoming a pretty standard response for those looking for a basic, high quality rifle for a good price.  

This would be my choice as well.  Really can't go wrong with the Spikes for $800.  Also leaves you money for mags and ammo.
12/18/2010 8:37:05 PM EDT
[#4]
I believe BCM's sale is still up. If it is thats a solid option. That said, you wont go wrong with Spikes either

J
12/19/2010 2:50:16 AM EDT
[#5]
the guys have nailed it so far...you cant go wrong with spikes or bravo company but if i had alil extra cash i would get a COLT...but thats just me
12/19/2010 3:26:45 AM EDT
[#6]
Also dont be afraid to look into a Smith and Wesson M&P. You can get the OR model pretty cheap off the web and throw a scope on.
12/19/2010 4:07:30 AM EDT
[#7]
Spikes or BCM.  Spikes is going to be a little cheaper.  And welcome to the site.
12/19/2010 4:40:17 AM EDT
[#8]
I shoot a lot of hogs.  Though I've shot quite a few with .223, I prefer something a little bigger.  I use .308.  For a sub $1000 AR in 308, you're basically looking at a DPMS.  While not top of the line, they're accurate and reliable for most folks.  

If you want to stick with a standard lower, look at 6.8 spc.  If you go this way, I'd go BCM.  

If you go .223, at least get a 1:7 twist barrel so that you can shoot heavier bullets.
12/19/2010 6:43:27 AM EDT
[#9]
Sounds like you don't want to build; at most, it sounds like you'd slap an assembled upper on an assembled lower if not just buy a complete rifle.

You're more than likely going to end up with a single stage trigger. It will loosen up over time. The RRA trigger on my AR feels lighter after a couple hundred rounds. You can buy a JP Enterprises reduced power trigger spring set which is supposed to lighten up the pull even more. I plan to try one of those out in the very near future. I'll also recommend a 1:7 twist to enable you to shoot heavier rounds.

I'll echo what others have said. NIB, I think your best bet is Spike's or maybe even look at CMMG. I was going to purchase a CMMG, but went LMT instead. I like the LMT a lot, but I think I would have been just as happy with the CMMG. Of course, the LMT does have a two-stage trigger which is very nice. Go two-stage if you can work it in your budget.

$1000 isn't going to leave you room for any optics at the outset. So the question is, what kind of iron sight set up do you want. Price will be affected by whether you go with an A2 upper or a railed upper with a carry handle sight or other BUIS. You'll want to think about that to maximize your budget. I'd almost recommend a railed receiver and a basic carry handle sight for starters. You can find a carry handle on the EE real quick. I've seen one recently as low as $15. Needless to say, it sold very quickly.

Hunt the EE here. You can pick up some really good deals from honest people selling their well-taken-care-of AR gear at very reasonable prices reflecting true market value. Make the most out of your money.

You can't go wrong with CMMG, Colt, BCM, LMT, Spikes, RRA, or any combination of those. If you're patient, you could build yourself a good quality AR with $1000.

edited for spelling
12/19/2010 6:46:53 AM EDT
[#10]
<––- Live in Texas as well, with a hog problem as well...

Spikes middy complete
Spikes lower with BCM,DD upper

this should solve all your problems...
12/19/2010 7:06:12 AM EDT
[#11]
Complete spikes rifle quality equal to Colt,BCM for $800 now theres $200 left over for mags,ammo.
12/19/2010 7:07:22 AM EDT
[#12]
Daniel Defense is making some really good stuff too.Right now if you go over to smartgunner.com you can buy a Daniel Defense upper for $349 minus the bolt and handguards and it has the cold hammer forged barrel.I personally run BCM but have been thinking about getting the Daniel Defense.But as the guys above have stated you cant go wrong with Spikes,BCM,Colt or Daniel Defense.
12/19/2010 7:25:39 AM EDT
[#13]
My choice would be a Colt first then spikes second.
12/19/2010 7:30:55 AM EDT
[#14]
Colt, BCM, Daniel Defense.
12/19/2010 7:51:04 AM EDT
[#15]
Go with the spikes setup.
12/19/2010 8:40:35 AM EDT
[#16]
many guys on here have used the .223 round and it is very deadly on the large hogs. There are many pics under the outdoors forum under hog hunting. I love the hornady 75 grain hpbt bullet that is used by several diff manufacturers. BLack hills, hornady tap, hornady match, hornady practice just to name the hi end loads.  Big hogs drop like a rock when shot in the neck or lungs with this load, and it is very accurate and precise out of my 1:9 twist remington r-15. If you are looking for a hunting mainly gun i would reccomend you take a look at the 18" vtr cs model.
12/19/2010 9:09:19 AM EDT
[#17]
Thanks guys for all your insight!
12/19/2010 10:01:01 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
many guys on here have used the .223 round and it is very deadly on the large hogs. There are many pics under the outdoors forum under hog hunting. I love the hornady 75 grain hpbt bullet that is used by several diff manufacturers. BLack hills, hornady tap, hornady match, hornady practice just to name the hi end loads.  Big hogs drop like a rock when shot in the neck or lungs with this load, and it is very accurate and precise out of my 1:9 twist remington r-15. If you are looking for a hunting mainly gun i would reccomend you take a look at the 18" vtr cs model.


Interesting.......what kind of groups are you getting with your 75grn bullets out of your 1:9 remington?  I stick by what I said.....I shoot hogs regularly and though I've shot many with .223.  A little bigger is better, especially on larger hogs.  You can hund deer with .223 too, but it isn't ideal.  Just carefully consider the right tool for the job.
12/19/2010 10:07:37 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
the guys have nailed it so far...you cant go wrong with spikes or bravo company but if i had alil extra cash i would get a COLT...but thats just me


  This...Colt 6920

12/19/2010 10:17:31 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
I stick by what I said.....I shoot hogs regularly and though I've shot many with .223.  A little bigger is better, especially on larger hogs.  You can hund deer with .223 too, but it isn't ideal.  Just carefully consider the right tool for the job.

I have no experience with hogs specifically but I'd lean toward a larger caliber as well, probably 6.8spc.
12/19/2010 10:19:07 AM EDT
[#21]
I've heard great things about the CMMG bargain bin rifles. For hog hunting it sounds like they may be the ticket.



12/19/2010 12:34:40 PM EDT
[#22]
This is with lead slead 100 yards hornady tap fpd 75 grain first shot cold bore high to the right, then fired 11 more shots there is one on the barcode top corner of target guess I goofed on that one r-15 1:9 twisthttp://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee397/cdalgo79/223Tp75jpg.jpg
12/19/2010 12:50:38 PM EDT
[#23]
That looks about the same as my S&W with a 1:9 and handloads using the 75gr hornady HPBT's. Mine doesn't do the first round quite that far off, but a slightly larger group than the main group shown. Not much though.
12/19/2010 1:02:28 PM EDT
[#24]
If it was me........lightweight set up    either Spikes or Bravo company(BCM)   both do a 16in Lightweight barrel upper and both come in a 1/7 twist which is exactly what you want.

Spikes is going to come in a little cheaper.....both rifles excellent quality
12/19/2010 1:18:37 PM EDT
[#25]
Best deal out there to me is an upper from Smartgunner with the length and rail option of your choice and a blem lower from BCM.  ML Upper with BCG and CH is $693 and the lower is $285 shipped.  Add the site of your choosing.
12/19/2010 3:44:18 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
This is with lead slead 100 yards hornady tap fpd 75 grain first shot cold bore high to the right, then fired 11 more shots there is one on the barcode top corner of target guess I goofed on that one r-15 1:9 twisthttp://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee397/cdalgo79/223Tp75jpg.jpg


Outstanding Group.
12/19/2010 3:46:57 PM EDT
[#27]
Stag model 8 ....clean running, high quality, and a grand with MI flip up sights included
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