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10/9/2010 9:36:30 PM EDT
Just saw the post for the new Rainier Arms barrel made with 416 steel. Any issues with this particular type of steel, and should I keep looking? I have nothing but good things to say about Rainier Arms, but I wanted to make sure I was getting a good quality barrel with my hard earned pennies.
Rainier Arms Select Barrel
10/9/2010 11:13:53 PM EDT
[#1]
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Just saw the post for the new Rainier Arms barrel made with 416 steel. Any issues with this particular type of steel, and should I keep looking? I have nothing but good things to say about Rainier Arms, but I wanted to make sure I was getting a good quality barrel with my hard earned pennies.
Rainier Arms Select Barrel


FWIW...we offer a 100% money back guarantee within 90 days of purchase. If you aren’t completely satisfied with the barrel, return it for a full refund.  
10/9/2010 11:22:34 PM EDT
[#2]
That's a pretty impressive return policy for a barrel...
10/10/2010 7:23:05 AM EDT
[#3]
Yeah, that is a LOT better than "we are going to come up with any and all excuses as to why that barrel won't shoot less than a 6" group at 100 yards with match ammo and a Nightforce scope".
10/10/2010 7:40:33 AM EDT
[#4]
You will be fine.
10/10/2010 8:12:07 AM EDT
[#5]
Most stainless barrels are made with that type.
10/10/2010 8:31:39 AM EDT
[#6]
Ranier Arms' barrels are very good, I believe they are still using Shilen 1/8 twist ractchet rifled blanks. I own several and am impressed. I don't impress that easily.
10/10/2010 8:49:48 AM EDT
[#7]
I would think ANY barrel for that price would be a decent value. a SS barrel in a good contour for that price is insane. I have thought about building a 4th AR just around that barrel.
10/10/2010 10:26:52 AM EDT
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I would think ANY barrel for that price would be a decent value. a SS barrel in a good contour for that price is insane. I have thought about building a 4th AR just around that barrel.


I caved in and bought one within minutes of seeing it.

The price is insane.
10/10/2010 7:24:01 PM EDT
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Ranier Arms' barrels are very good, I believe they are still using Shilen 1/8 twist ractchet rifled blanks. I own several and am impressed. I don't impress that easily.


I visited Ranier's website and discovered that the barrels you referred to are their new economy models. My first guess (because they are 3 groove barrels) is that these are made with PacNor's blanks. I own three Ranier Arms 1/8 SS barrels made with Shilen's blanks, so I'm not in a position to give my experience with these new models. The Shilen's have been very accurate.

PacNor is a very good company that sells their barrels by grade. Their cheapest grade is better than most. Their top end barrels are as good as any. I suspect Ranier had some barrels turned using their cheapest grade blanks. For this price you can't go wrong, especially for a blaster rifle.
10/10/2010 8:17:54 PM EDT
[#10]
Well, thanks to the reassuring posts by posters much more knowledgeable than myself, I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the black barrel (aka rifle #6). I love having this disease...
10/10/2010 9:14:27 PM EDT
[#11]
Looks pretty tempting, how would 3 groove rifling affect the accuracy and life of the barrel?
10/11/2010 7:55:24 AM EDT
[#12]
Your best bet is to contact Ranier directly and ask them if these are PacNor's 3 groove barrels. If so they are above average in every way. PacNor's barrels are very accurate and have the same life span as any other 416 SS barrel.
10/11/2010 8:13:25 AM EDT
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Looks pretty tempting, how would 3 groove rifling affect the accuracy and life of the barrel?


Lilja is big on 3 groove barrels, and he conservatively estimates the life of the barrel is increased by 20% with a 3 groove setup. Also, he says the accuracy is at least as good as an equivalent barrel with more grooves. Personally, I've had a Lilja 3 groove barrel and it was an amazing shooter. I also have a Benchmark (they're into precision bolt guns, I don't think they do any AR stuff) 3 groove barrel on one of my bolt guns and it's magical. Based on experience with high-quality 3 groove barrels, I am a believer.
10/11/2010 9:57:14 AM EDT
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Looks pretty tempting, how would 3 groove rifling affect the accuracy and life of the barrel?


Lilja is big on 3 groove barrels, and he conservatively estimates the life of the barrel is increased by 20% with a 3 groove setup. Also, he says the accuracy is at least as good as an equivalent barrel with more grooves. Personally, I've had a Lilja 3 groove barrel and it was an amazing shooter. I also have a Benchmark (they're into precision bolt guns, I don't think they do any AR stuff) 3 groove barrel on one of my bolt guns and it's magical. Based on experience with high-quality 3 groove barrels, I am a believer.


A shooting friend of mine bought a DD M4
He wasnt happy with the groups.
So he replaced it with the Lilja M4 SS barrel
Now his DDM4 will shoot 1MOA with several loads

I wish I had the money
10/13/2010 5:11:24 PM EDT
[#15]
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Ranier Arms' barrels are very good, I believe they are still using Shilen 1/8 twist ractchet rifled blanks. I own several and am impressed. I don't impress that easily.


I visited Ranier's website and discovered that the barrels you referred to are their new economy models. My first guess (because they are 3 groove barrels) is that these are made with PacNor's blanks. I own three Ranier Arms 1/8 SS barrels made with Shilen's blanks, so I'm not in a position to give my experience with these new models. The Shilen's have been very accurate.

PacNor is a very good company that sells their barrels by grade. Their cheapest grade is better than most. Their top end barrels are as good as any. I suspect Ranier had some barrels turned using their cheapest grade blanks. For this price you can't go wrong, especially for a blaster rifle.


I have a Rainier Ultramatch and its excellent.  Great products and great customer service.  For this price, I would not hesitate to buy one.
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