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7/4/2010 10:41:33 AM EDT
Watching some clips from magpul dynamics on youtube and I was wondering what kind of CAN brake he has on his weapon? I know that Chris costa has the KAC Triple Tap but Im not willing to pay over $400 bucks for a muzzle device. Any info would be helpful
7/4/2010 11:01:38 AM EDT
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Noveske KX3.  Lot of weight for a brake that is moderately effective, there are a few better options on the market.
7/4/2010 11:03:36 AM EDT
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Such as?????
7/4/2010 11:04:58 AM EDT
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Noveske KX3.  Lot of weight for a brake that is moderately effective, there are a few better options on the market.


it is kind of heavy, but on short barrels it does what it supposed to do...
7/4/2010 11:05:02 AM EDT
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supressor
7/4/2010 12:19:48 PM EDT
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Such as?????


For a muzzle brake, I would say that JP Rifle "Bennie Cooley" comp is very nearly the best for what it's intended.

For a more practical brake, I would actually use a Surefire MB556AR or 556K suppressor adapter.


If you want some of the same sound-directing qualities of a KX3 but need less light and noise, just get a PWS CQB comp.


You could go full-custom (think "open" class) and get something that keeps the rifle completely neutral when fired.  
However, those solutions are usually too big and unwieldy and not very realistic for most users.

ETA: Almost forgot, the KX3 is a flash suppressor.  Well, it's sold as a flash suppressor anyway (there are much better flash suppressors available).
Here's what it's really good at: directing sound straight forward from the end of a short-barreled rifle.
7/4/2010 12:27:43 PM EDT
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Noveske KX3.  Lot of weight for a brake that is moderately effective, there are a few better options on the market.


You have some incorrect info there. The KX3 is a flash suppressor by design.
http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=kx3556p&cat=11&page=1&search=&since=&status=

The point of the KX3 is to assist in the reliability of barrels less than 13 inches.  For that purpose it is very effective.

If your looking for something to reduce muzzle rise, aka a traditional break the PWS DNTC or SF MB556 are great options.  Ive had a JP BC brake along with a MSTN/PRI QC brake, I'd say just get a Mickuleck brake, for the money its as effective as the JP BC brake or MSTN QC brake.

For full house competition brakes check out the SJC Titan or Triange Rolling Thunder.
7/4/2010 12:37:38 PM EDT
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Too funny, you're posting that as I edited mine.

Yeah, it's classified by the BATF as a flash suppressor, so be aware if you live in an area where they're not legal.
7/4/2010 12:47:24 PM EDT
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I just mounted a BattleComp and like it a lot.  You may want to check it out.
7/4/2010 1:40:40 PM EDT
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SJC Titan Comp is the best I have ever used. Its very loud but the muzzel is very flat. Check it out on YouTube.
7/4/2010 2:36:12 PM EDT
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I think i would second the battle comp, i have heard nothing but great things about them and they are very similar to the KAC TT in appearance. As soon as the 1.5 comes out it is going on my 14.5.
7/4/2010 2:41:49 PM EDT
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I think i would second the battle comp, i have heard nothing but great things about them and they are very similar to the KAC TT in appearance. As soon as the 1.5 comes out it is going on my 14.5.


+1
7/4/2010 3:10:51 PM EDT
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Vote for the Battle Comp here, too.  I'm just waiting for the 6.8 version to be released. They've impressed me and I hate comps.
7/4/2010 4:10:34 PM EDT
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There are a lot of good muzzle brakes on the market.  Each one is a little different and compromises different things.  There is no free lunch and everything comes at a cost.  For example, some designs almost eleminate muzzle rise, but are overly long and very loud.

Decide what features are most important to you and get the product that suits your needs the best.  You may find some of the articles below useful:



03designgroup | Noveske KX3 and Barrel Length Considerations




03designgroup | Knights Armament Company (KAC) Triple Tap Muzzle Brake


(Keep in mind that the PWS FSC556, DNTC, and TTO - Todd's Tiny One all use the same blast baffle so their performance as far as reducing muzzle rise is pretty much identical for all 3 compensators)


03designgroup | Primary Weapons System (PWS) Custom DNTC Compensator




03designgroup | Primary Weapons System Todd's Tiny One Compensator





7/7/2010 6:03:47 PM EDT
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Noveske KX3.  Lot of weight for a brake that is moderately effective, there are a few better options on the market.


You have some incorrect info there. The KX3 is a flash suppressor by design.

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The point of the KX3 is to assist in the reliability of barrels less than 13 inches.  For that purpose it is very effective...



I believe that's incorrect as well.

7/7/2010 6:39:28 PM EDT
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Noveske KX3.  Lot of weight for a brake that is moderately effective, there are a few better options on the market.


You have some incorrect info there. The KX3 is a flash suppressor by design.

<link>

The point of the KX3 is to assist in the reliability of barrels less than 13 inches.  For that purpose it is very effective...



I believe that's incorrect as well.



It was designed to reduce flash, direct blast down range and help increase reliability. People addressed the other design points of he KX3, so I added the last point KX3, should have been a bit more clear. Some extra back pressure on SBRs. From my experience it does all of the aforementioned well. I suppose thats a subjective term for "online discussion forum purposes".  I think its very effective, so do others.
http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?2207-Noveske-KX3-Flash-Suppressor&p=19974
As already mentioned, the KX3 works well for its intended purpose, but its not going to kill all the flash. The KX3 is designed to direct the concussion of SBRs away from the shooter, and to slightly increase back pressure to aid in reliability.



The search function on any of the major sites would yield this info, I just happened to be on WeVo at the time.
7/7/2010 7:01:39 PM EDT
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Noveske KX3.  Lot of weight for a brake that is moderately effective, there are a few better options on the market.


You have some incorrect info there. The KX3 is a flash suppressor by design.

<link>

The point of the KX3 is to assist in the reliability of barrels less than 13 inches.  For that purpose it is very effective...



I believe that's incorrect as well.



It was designed to reduce flash, direct blast down range and help increase reliability. People addressed the other design points of he KX3, so I added the last point KX3, should have been a bit more clear. Some extra back pressure on SBRs...



Ah, I see. It did seem (to me) as though you were indicating that the primary purpose was to aid in reliability.

Anyway, (and much as I'm not inclined to contradict Stickman) I will say that when I called Noveske a couple of years ago and asked them *that very question* about back pressure, I was told that it was essentially of no consequence.

Perhaps something has changed since then.

7/7/2010 7:10:32 PM EDT
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That said though (and much as I'm not inclined to contradict Stickman) I will say that when I called Noveske a couple of years ago and asked them *that very question* about back pressure, I was told that it was essentially of no consequence.

Perhaps something has changed since then.



Nothing has changed. There is no measurable/practical back pressure increase that I could ever find and I looked for a long time with many different barrel/gas ports chambers and everything else.

I had OPS make the M4-S to do everything the KX3 was supposed to do, but doesnt.  If you want reduced blast, reduced sound, increased back pressure, in a light weight, short muzzle device, you gotta pony up and pay the transfer tax.
7/7/2010 8:34:56 PM EDT
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Noveske KX3.  Lot of weight for a brake that is moderately effective, there are a few better options on the market.


You have some incorrect info there. The KX3 is a flash suppressor by design.

<link>

The point of the KX3 is to assist in the reliability of barrels less than 13 inches.  For that purpose it is very effective...



I believe that's incorrect as well.



It was designed to reduce flash, direct blast down range and help increase reliability. People addressed the other design points of he KX3, so I added the last point KX3, should have been a bit more clear. Some extra back pressure on SBRs...



Ah, I see. It did seem (to me) as though you were indicating that the primary purpose was to aid in reliability.

Anyway, (and much as I'm not inclined to contradict Stickman) I will say that when I called Noveske a couple of years ago and asked them *that very question* about back pressure, I was told that it was essentially of no consequence.

Perhaps something has changed since then.




I can see that too, I should have prefaced the post better.  I was not clear enough.
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