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6/16/2010 3:29:33 AM EDT
I am looking at a new in the box and never fired Noveske.  It has a 14.5" barrel, removable carry handle and front post sight.  The lower is  Lewis Machine.

The price is $1200.

When did Noveske use Lewis Machine lowers?

I trust the seller.

Thanks for any help

6/16/2010 4:01:43 AM EDT
[#1]
Is it for sale at Noveske or at a store?  Most likely someone tossed a Noveske upper on another lower.  
6/16/2010 4:06:10 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Is it for sale at Noveske or at a store?  Most likely someone tossed a Noveske upper on another lower.  


this.

You can buy a basic Noveske upper for 850. Add another 200 for a nice complete spikes lower(+another 50 dollars or so to get a real Noveske lower). Where is the other 150 coming from? Doesn't sound like a good deal at all. And that is for a brand NEW rifle. If the rifle was used, I would only offer 900-950, but that is just me. YMMV.
6/16/2010 4:12:39 AM EDT
[#3]
This was the way it came from Noveske.
6/16/2010 4:20:06 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
This was the way it came from Noveske.


Noveske uses their own roll marked lowers and I've never seen a Noveske with a removable carry handle either. Check the barrel and make sure that it is marked with either noveske on it or the cross and caliber. Something doesn't seem to add up on what you are telling us. Check their website for more details on what they carry.

6/16/2010 4:27:28 AM EDT
[#5]
The upper has the Noveske roll mark.  The lower is Lewis Machine.  Even though this is new in the box unfired it is not a current production.  I do not know when the gun was made.  I was hoping someone would be able to date it by the Lewis Machine lower.  

Thanks
6/16/2010 5:20:50 AM EDT
[#6]
I am no expert, but have been researching Noveske a lot lately.  This does not sound like a factory complete rifle.  It is likely that a retailer put a complete Noveske upper onto an LMT lower and added a carry handle to sell as a complete rifle.  Don't all factory rifles have the Noveske logo across the joint between the upper and lower to distinguish it as a factory built rifle?
6/16/2010 5:36:38 AM EDT
[#7]
Did you get a chance to see the box? What does it say on the box?
If it was a noveske gun it should have a noveske upper, matching noveske lower, and be in a noveske box that matches the serial number of the lower.
If it is a LMT box then somebody put a noveske upper on a LMT lower.
A phone call to noveske will answer your question if they ever used LMT lowers.

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6/16/2010 5:39:39 AM EDT
[#8]
$850 for a complete upper $350-400 for a complete lower. Normally the upper would come with a troy buis.I would say that rifle is $100-200 to high.
6/16/2010 6:57:56 AM EDT
[#9]
Sorry but he's not being truthful with you. It is NOT a factory rifle. All Noveske complete rifles have Noveske lowers, with the only exception being the special edition magpul lowers. They also don't offer carry handles to the best of my knowledge (I'm pretty familiar with Noveske).
6/16/2010 7:57:39 AM EDT
[#10]
I agree that calling Noveske is the best next step, but a for the last few years anywaya, Noveske has been getting their lower forgings from CMT, machining them and then marking the seam between upper and lower with their crusader cross so as to assure that it's an actual Noveske rifle rather than frankingun.
6/16/2010 8:22:13 AM EDT
[#11]
Thanks guys

I will let it pass.
6/16/2010 10:38:33 AM EDT
[#12]
Well if you can talk him down on the price it sounds like a fine rifle . just not a factory build. but if the Noveske is a factory upper and the lower is for sure then i dont see a problem with the rifle at all.
6/16/2010 12:26:42 PM EDT
[#13]
Thanks

I looked at the rifle again with a more critical eye and at the right price would buy it.  It is obvious that there is a slight color difference between the upper and lower.  The barrel has the Noveske mark as well as on the upper below the rail.  It appears unfired.  I may get him to lower the price by keeping the removable carry handle.

Is $900 a fair offer and $1000 a good price?

thanks
6/16/2010 12:35:45 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Thanks

I looked at the rifle again with a more critical eye and at the right price would buy it.  It is obvious that there is a slight color difference between the upper and lower.  The barrel has the Noveske mark as well as on the upper below the rail.  It appears unfired.  I may get him to lower the price by keeping the removable carry handle.

Is $900 a fair offer and $1000 a good price?

thanks


Color difference doesn't mean anything.  You can get color difference in factory complete rifles from upper to lower. What you have is one brand upper on another brand lower.  LMT makes a quality lower, Noveske makes a quality barrel.  Seems like a decent gun.  What kind of BCG does it have?
6/16/2010 12:40:42 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Thanks

I looked at the rifle again with a more critical eye and at the right price would buy it.  It is obvious that there is a slight color difference between the upper and lower.  The barrel has the Noveske mark as well as on the upper below the rail.  It appears unfired.  I may get him to lower the price by keeping the removable carry handle.

Is $900 a fair offer and $1000 a good price?

thanks


Yes. I'd offer 900.00 and be willing to pay 1,000.00 if it has a good BCG.
6/16/2010 12:45:45 PM EDT
[#16]
Noveske ships just their uppers in the same box they ship their rifles in. My assumption is that the person selling the rifle, bought the upper and put a LMT lower on it. Either way, I'm pretty sure that it's NOT a full factory rifle and I own (4) complete Noveske rifles plus (2) additional uppers so, I do have little experience with their product.
6/16/2010 1:19:29 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
I am looking at a new in the box and never fired Noveske.  It has a 14.5" barrel, removable carry handle and front post sight.  The lower is  Lewis Machine.

The price is $1200.

When did Noveske use Lewis Machine lowers?

I trust the seller.

Thanks for any help



You trust the seller who's offering a frankengun and passing it off as a NIB Noveske rifle?
6/17/2010 3:05:28 AM EDT
[#18]
Thanks

I have not seen the box.  After another visit, this is a LMT with a Noveske upper.  I will confirm the BCG today.  It was not presented to me as a Noveske that was my assumption which was wrong.  Sorry for the confusion everyone.

6/17/2010 5:03:46 AM EDT
[#19]
The BCG is Noveske and is has a LMT two stage trigger per the owner whom I know and trust.  He sold the upper and lower to a customer a few years ago and bought it back unfired recently.
6/17/2010 5:46:00 AM EDT
[#20]
For that price just buy a new one.  You dont have to worry about it being fired, pr jacked up by someone who has tinkerd with it.  Plus why have a hogh priced Noveske upper without a Noveske lower.  If your looking for a bargan rifle go with a Spikes, or BCM.  You'll probably never be able to tell the differnce.
6/17/2010 6:21:09 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
For that price just buy a new one.  You dont have to worry about it being fired, pr jacked up by someone who has tinkerd with it.  Plus why have a hogh priced Noveske upper without a Noveske lower.  If your looking for a bargan rifle go with a Spikes, or BCM.  You'll probably never be able to tell the differnce.



am i missing something he did say NIB unfired right . I would not compare a Noveske upper to a spikes or BCM .They are just not on the same level as the Noveske.
6/17/2010 6:23:58 AM EDT
[#22]
yes

NIB unfired
6/17/2010 6:30:20 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Thanks

I have not seen the box.  After another visit, this is a LMT with a Noveske upper.  I will confirm the BCG today.  It was not presented to me as a Noveske that was my assumption which was wrong.  Sorry for the confusion everyone.



In that case I would consider buying in for $100-200 less than what he said. Both are great companies.
6/17/2010 10:44:24 AM EDT
[#24]
Is it a N4 basic upper?
Or is it railed?

Does the LMT lower have a single or double stage trigger?
M4 or sopmod stock?

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6/17/2010 11:20:17 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Is it a N4 basic upper?
Or is it railed?

Does the LMT lower have a single or double stage trigger?
M4 or sopmod stock?

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It is a basic N4 upper
two stage trigger
Sopmod stock

thanks
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