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10/22/2009 10:29:15 PM EDT

Had my M4 quals this morning.  176 rounds total, not much I know.  Anywho, everyone always says the AR platform needs to be clean and/or wet to run.  Try bone dry and filthy.  Zero malfunctions, wasn't even the slightest bit sluggish.


I hadn't touched the weapon in almost 2 years, been on the do not arm roster because of medications.  It had pretty much not been touched during that time.  I wasn't allowed to take it out at all, not even to clean it.  It was covered in dust and completely dry.  Picked it up from the armory this morning, went straight to the range, and we started shooting.  Didn't have a chance to break it down first.  It is now clean and well lubed.

10/22/2009 10:31:11 PM EDT
[#1]
exactly?
10/22/2009 10:33:38 PM EDT
[#2]
You were probably right at the failure point, you can't run it dry much more than you did.  Colt is the way to go though.
10/22/2009 11:41:50 PM EDT
[#3]
176 rds for a qual.  I wish we had that.  We get a 50rd qual once a quarter.  Thats it.  Oh and +1 for the colts.  I have 2 of them.
10/23/2009 1:32:06 AM EDT
[#4]
I had a Colt and sold it do to local AWB laws. In this state they ban guns by name. I liked mine when I had it. It always ran fine.
I own other brands now and still have no issues with the black rifles.
10/23/2009 2:18:11 AM EDT
[#5]
Would you expect any less from FN?


I had a buddy that a few years ago built an Ar from a Model 1 sales kit and an Olympic lower. He ran it dry, no lube period.  It was always clean, but always dry.  Running only about 100-150 rds at a time through it, it always ran fine.  This has little to do with WHO made it.  Certainly Colt and a few other makers produce great weapons.  But this test proves nothing.  If so, we would all be rushing out to buy a Model 1 kit with an Oly lower.


Put 500 rounds through it dry, and I will be impressed.


But, it is a good feeling to know that even when a weapon is not properly maintained, it will probably run for a while.
10/23/2009 4:10:01 AM EDT
[#6]
I'm still waiting for Colts to be self cleaning or something cool that makes them worth their extra cost. Fine rifles, but there are plenty others for a few hundred less that are just as reliable.
10/23/2009 4:29:49 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
You were probably right at the failure point, you can't run it dry much more than you did.  


Quoted:

Put 500 rounds through it dry, and I will be impressed.



My Sabre upper w/RRA loweer had been cased since November. I took it to my BILs house last week, opened the case and dumped a mag with the rifle dry.

850 rounds later, it was still dry(er) and running like a top.

10/23/2009 4:58:09 AM EDT
[#8]
I'm curious as to these numbers being thrown around for how long an AR will run dry. Is there anything to back them or is this sort of pull it out of your ass stuff?







I managed to run a Glock bone dry through a class (bought gun scrubber accidentally and used it to "lube" my glock

) I went through about 1400 rounds of wolf before it started malfunctioning.



Edit rereading the thread title I'm not sure how being a Colt would make any difference in how long an AR will run dry. Hmm

10/23/2009 5:07:05 AM EDT
[#9]
Anybody actually done the testing to failure to make judgements on how long a good AR15 will run dry?  If not this is all guesswork.
10/23/2009 5:36:47 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
I'm curious as to these numbers being thrown around for how long an AR will run dry. Is there anything to back them or is this sort of pull it out of your ass stuff?


Scouts honor. 850 rounds dry. It would have been close to twice that, but I brought ammo for my BIL to shoot as well.
10/23/2009 6:45:56 AM EDT
[#11]
Doesn't really surprise me, I mean, it wasn't run that hard. Under 200rds? I'd think most rifles would run fine, even if dirty and dry for 200rds.
10/23/2009 7:10:19 AM EDT
[#12]
This has nothing to do with the rifle being a Colt.
10/23/2009 7:12:08 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
This has nothing to do with the rifle being a Colt.


Truth.
10/23/2009 7:23:49 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
You were probably right at the failure point, you can't run it dry much more than you did.  


Quoted:

Put 500 rounds through it dry, and I will be impressed.



My Sabre upper w/RRA loweer had been cased since November. I took it to my BILs house last week, opened the case and dumped a mag with the rifle dry.

850 rounds later, it was still dry(er) and running like a top.



The point is it's not smart to run it dry unless you are just doing it for testing purposes.  Besides earlier failure everything else is wearing out quicker in your rifle.
10/23/2009 7:27:53 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
The point is it's not smart to run it dry unless you are just doing it for testing purposes.  Besides earlier failure everything else is wearing out quicker in your rifle.


I got the point. I don't run it dry all the time. I just wanted to see if it would go, and it did. What's the word? Oh yeah..."testing".



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