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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - BAD lever (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 8/31/2009 5:07:07 PM EDT
just got her in. the quality and finish is spectacular. now i need to train with it!
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what the hell is that for, seriously I have no idea I have 18 years active duty as a combat medic and that has got to be the dumbest thing I have seen on a rifle! is it a bolt release? if so is your old one broke? It allows you to control the bolt with your firing hand when you have a malfunction. |
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Someone who I shoot with had something similar and I just couldn't get used to it. Having my finger in or around the trigger when I'm loading a mag just doesn't sit well with me, not only from a safety perspective, but I've got my motion down pat and it is so hard to change it / get used to it.
I might have to give it another shot, maybe I'll come around. |
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I don't understand why people are so against it. Even if you forget you have it, you can still operate the bolt catch the traditional way. I'm not against it, in fact I think it is a great modification. I just don't feel like I REQUIRE it. There is a difference. |
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.......and roger, I broke a standard bolt release before which is alot shorter but it goes to show if you stamp magpul on it people will buy it Its not hype. Got to try out the prototype in Jacksonville FL 7 months ago. Gun belonged to our very own Hawkeye. It speeds up reloads a bit with one magazine. With a redi-mag, it speeds up a reload to roughly one second from bolt lock to next shot. Where it really shines is on admin loads and malfunctions. Makes it easier for lefties too, as they now have a huge surface to hit to lock the bolt open, instead of the little nub on the bolt catch. Closing it, they can do it like they did before, or just use their thumb of the loading hand to close the bolt just like we do, 'cept on the other side. S/F |
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what the hell is that for, seriously I have no idea I have 18 years active duty as a combat medic and that has got to be the dumbest thing I have seen on a rifle! is it a bolt release? if so is your old one broke? Quoted:
.......and roger, I broke a standard bolt release before which is alot shorter but it goes to show if you stamp magpul on it people will buy it 
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what the hell is that for, seriously I have no idea I have 18 years active duty as a combat medic and that has got to be the dumbest thing I have seen on a rifle! is it a bolt release? if so is your old one broke? Pretty bold statement considering you aren't even sure what it is.
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Doesn't change the fact that MagPul could stamp their logo on pink fluffy bunny suits and still be looking at months of backorder.
You're spending $30 per lower for a fractional-second improvement requiring a revision on existing proven manual of arms. This shouldn't be for everybody - but there's a reason that this will be standard among competition shooters and the early-adopting ARFCOM community anyway. |
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Doesn't change the fact that MagPul could stamp their logo on pink fluffy bunny suits and still be looking at months of backorder. You're spending $30 per lower for a fractional-second improvement requiring a revision on existing proven manual of arms. This shouldn't be for everybody - but there's a reason that this will be standard among competition shooters and the early-adopting ARFCOM community anyway. is this something I can pre order? |
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Doesn't change the fact that MagPul could stamp their logo on pink fluffy bunny suits and still be looking at months of backorder. You're spending $30 per lower for a fractional-second improvement requiring a revision on existing proven manual of arms. This shouldn't be for everybody - but there's a reason that this will be standard among competition shooters and the early-adopting ARFCOM community anyway. I agree with your assesment of the Magpul Mania... Hell I think the ACS is about the ugliest stock on the market, but to each their own as long as they don't stop making UBR's and CTR's. The B.A.D. is meant to greatly speed up Malfunction Clearance by allowing right handed shooters to lock the bolt to the rear with out having to remove their hand from the grip. Slightly faster out of battery reloads is a side effect. |
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what the hell is that for, seriously I have no idea I have 18 years active duty as a combat medic and that has got to be the dumbest thing I have seen on a rifle! is it a bolt release? if so is your old one broke? perfectly coining the phrase.....'ignorance is bliss' 
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| Although I have 3 of these on order, this seems to be an accessory that if it had been made by a lesser company people would be bashing it for all sorts of reasons. I like the idea so I am going to try them out when I get home. This is kind of like the Redi Mag. Plenty people dissed the Redi Mag until the Magpul guys came on scene to tout all the benefits of this device, now you can't find them in stock anywhere. Go figure. |
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Hell I think the ACS is about the ugliest stock on the market, but to each their own as long as they don't stop making UBR's and CTR's. It may not be pretty, but it works and has a very comfortable cheekweld. I'm still waiting on UBRs I've had on back order for 6 months.............. |
| I think somebody posted the Costa/Hayle video, where the demo the BAD lever. seems like it could really come in handy if you are get fluent with it. and i remember reading some reviews on a similar product but i can't remember the mfg. i think the complaints on it were that the attachment point to the bolt catch wasn't very sturdy. someone else may be able to shed some more light on that though. hopefully magpul has done a bit more testing and has put out a solid product, as they always do. |
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Quoted: someone explain the install process, is it a drill and tap thing? No. Backplate and retention screw. Check the images at the bottom... http://www.magpul.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=362 |
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I've been working with a prototype BAD for a little over 14 months now. When you start running into ammo that is shitty in quality, that starts to induce type III malfunctions, popped primers,(especially in today's shitty ammo market), start shooting/reloading from asymmetrical positions, running a redi-mag, start timing re-loads from bolt hold open, from mag to mag, and are consistently using your gun through evolutions that require alot of admin work w/the rifle, the BAD shines.
It makes life easier working with your rifle, plain and simple. For the cockfags that buy it and expect to run their shit like haley/costa, well yeah, you already behind the power curve. It aint gonna happen. I've been using it hard, I think i've had it at 5 carbine courses of the last year, multiple 3guns, and multiple FDCC matches @ home, on top of my own practice. And I am still not 100% proficient w/it. If you are willing to practice with it, it WILL help. If not, I'd pass. If you shoot, at a range, standing up, and thats it, spend the $30 on something else. |
| Thing looks interesting(I've seen the ones others have made in the past as well) although even though I'm left handed I don't think I'll be picking one up. Looks like this thing will block the longer ambi mag releases like KAC's. Sucks as it would be really nice to somehow have both. |
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damcv62
They are a neat item, but I won't be getting one. Just an item that was made to fix a problem I don't have.
well said... ... I was clearing Malfuctions long before they were classified and I don't shoot shitty ammo, And if I don't have a secondary and get a Type 3 malfuction, I would prefer to beat you to death with my gun vs. spent the time to clear it...
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I think somebody posted the Costa/Hayle video, where the demo the BAD lever. seems like it could really come in handy if you are get fluent with it. and i remember reading some reviews on a similar product but i can't remember the mfg. i think the complaints on it were that the attachment point to the bolt catch wasn't very sturdy. someone else may be able to shed some more light on that though. hopefully magpul has done a bit more testing and has put out a solid product, as they always do. Phase5tactical.com They make the EBR v1 and EBR v2. The difference between version 1 and version 2 is the v1 was a bolt-on like Magpuls M.A.D. V2 is a direct replacement for the factory bolt catch/release. |
I havent used my redi-mag in over a year because I couldnt get used to thumbing around it to release the bolt, now that I have my BAD its time to play again. Been getting about a half hour practice a day trying to form some muscle memory, still want to slap the side of the rifle though.
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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - BAD lever (Page 1 of 2)
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