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Posted: 5/2/2009 5:49:30 PM EDT
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Looking for advice. I want an AR but do not know a thing about them. I want one that I could use to hog hunt with, as well as teach my kids how to shoot. I was taught at 6 years old behind a 30-30, then went to a 30.06 and was shooting a 7 mag by 8. I was not too fond of the 7 mag then. I want to start them out with something that does not have too much recoil and we could practice on the hogs with.
With this said. What is the best value for the buck with a stainless barrell, bi-pod, laser sight with flashlight, top scope with magnification sighted to 100 yards? What brands whould I stay with and which ones should I avoid? What should I expect to spend? |
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IMO, you're asking the impossible for any one person to answer. For every question asked you can receive dozens of differing opinions. There are simply too many choices and possibilities to consider in one post. My advice is to lurk on various forums for a while and read all you can about the topics of interest. You'll soon start to get a better understanding of the complexities and varieties of the AR platform. Then you can ask specifics. Also, consider going down to a dealer or two and do the touchy-feely thing.
That said, whatever you choose, be safe. 
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You're going to need to decide on barrel length, and if you want a telescopic stock or a fixed A1 or A2 stock. The bipod, scope, lights and lasers will have to be added seperately regardless of what AR you buy.
Also may want to consider free float handguards if precison accuracy is a major concern. |
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You can get into a basic AR for around a grand
Looking for advice. I want an AR but do not know a thing about them. I want one that I could use to hog hunt with, as well as teach my kids how to shoot. Ruger 10/22 I was taught at 6 years old behind a 30-30, then went to a 30.06 and was shooting a 7 mag by 8. I was not too fond of the 7 mag then. I want to start them out with something that does not have too much recoil Ruger 10/22 and we could practice on the hogs with. With this said. What is the best value for the buck with a stainless barrell, bi-pod, laser sight with flashlight, top scope with magnification sighted to 100 yards? You can add at anytime, with a quadrail. What brands whould I stay with and which ones should I avoid? What should I expect to spend? .223/5.56 $400 and up for 1K ammo, 6.8 spc expect to pay closer to a dollar a round. Start here - Equiptment exchange - AR15 Complete Firearms & Lower Receivers Take your time and good luck! 
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Rock River would be my first choice.
Bushmaster has a nice rifle with stainless steel barrel. DPMS is another good choice. But if you keep look around you could find a lower halve for around 300. to 400 then just look for a completed upper for 500-600 if you're lucky. Laser and a flashlight all in one get the Streamlight TLR-2 expect to pay around $280.00 Nightforce scope is one of the better one for the buck, it has a nice clear glass. $1200.00 and stay away from the NCStar you see at the gun show. |
| You can probably save more money building your AR than buying one already assembled. Essential Arms makes good Lowers at very affordable prices($100~110) and you can have it in about a week or two. Just shop around and you should be able to build a simple, basic one for around 800 dollars or so. |
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You can get into a basic AR for around a grand
Looking for advice. I want an AR but do not know a thing about them. I want one that I could use to hog hunt with, as well as teach my kids how to shoot. Ruger 10/22 I was taught at 6 years old behind a 30-30, then went to a 30.06 and was shooting a 7 mag by 8. I was not too fond of the 7 mag then. I want to start them out with something that does not have too much recoil Ruger 10/22 and we could practice on the hogs with. With this said. What is the best value for the buck with a stainless barrell, bi-pod, laser sight with flashlight, top scope with magnification sighted to 100 yards? You can add at anytime, with a quadrail. What brands whould I stay with and which ones should I avoid? What should I expect to spend? .223/5.56 $400 and up for 1K ammo, 6.8 spc expect to pay closer to a dollar a round. Start here - Equiptment exchange - AR15 Complete Firearms & Lower Receivers Take your time and good luck!
Lots of very solid advice in this thread so far. I started my daughter off on a Ruger 10/22 to teach her the basics of safe gun handling, as well as using iron sights. Once she had the basics down pat she graduated to her first AR-a 16" A2 with a 22LR Ciener conversion installed. I wanted to make sure she had a solid understanding of iron sights in order to avoid using optics as a crutch later on. Once she was reasonably comfortable with the manual-of-arms of the AR I removed the Ciener conversion and got her shooting 223. Just last year I started introducing her to optics. Her current favorite is my TA-11, but there's no way in hell she's getting that ACOG from me
At eleven years old my daughter has a much better understanding and respect of firearms than I did at her age. Her current AR is a Colt LE6920 
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What brands whould I stay with and which ones should I avoid? There is one manufacturer that keeps changing names because they have such a bad reputation: I believe Hesse, Vulcan & Blackthorne are 3 of the names and I expect someone else will add some more names they've used. They're cheap and therefore attractive. And you can find them because nobody else wants one. If I remember my free membership days, the site search function was pretty limited, so make one of your first purchases a site membership so you can research those names and other stuff. It will pay for itself with what you can learn. |
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Yep a 10/22 with no recoil and NOISE is the best learning rifle.
Considering you want an AR then a collapsible stock would be in order to share between you and your kids. Extended for big people collapsed for little ones. Any of the top manufacturers will do you good. Alphabetically listed… Bushmaster, Colt, DPMS, Rock River. Everyone here will be a naysayer on one or more of these but undeniably these are the most popular of the manufacturers. Yes you can piece one together and all but for your first AR I think this is not the way to go. Buy a trouble free complete AR. There is a slight learning curve to building one and you don’t need to be teaching your kids gun handling and troubleshooting/gunsmithing at entry level. I would say go with a longer barreled version for hunting and such. You will get a slightly higher velocity and a bit more bullet energy for killing pigs. Accuracy and barrel length don’t have much in common. You want a flat top so you can have the ability to do what you want with sights. From iron to high end glass all the way to holosights. IF you plan to have your kids shoot prone off a tri-pod then make sure you buy a few 10 round magazines. People sometimes forget that 20-30 round mags are long and will high centre and touch the ground when shooting prone especially with kids. |
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If I remember my free membership days, the site search function was pretty limited, so make one of your first purchases a site membership so you can research those names and other stuff. It will pay for itself with what you can learn.[/quote] just purchased my membership today after over 160 posts. I cannot believe i waited this long. 
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