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Posted: 4/12/2009 7:16:29 AM EDT
| Not really sure if this is the right place to post this. I got in to the AR 15 game last year, previously was ak 47 addicted, with a M&P 15. Immediately bought all the accessories I "thought" i needed. Now, i am rethinking the role of the gun. My questions are mainly opinions i know but would like some input. Is it way out of whack to just use iron sights. Was thinking of getting a good set of "night sights", to compliment the irons. Also have been using a vfg and then ill take it off, then back on. What are the thoughts about using/not using them. Not looking for a complete minimalist gun, but wondering how well i/it can perform without the accessories. |
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Not really sure if this is the right place to post this. I got in to the AR 15 game last year, previously was ak 47 addicted, with a M&P 15. Immediately bought all the accessories I "thought" i needed. Now, i am rethinking the role of the gun. My questions are mainly opinions i know but would like some input. Is it way out of whack to just use iron sights. Was thinking of getting a good set of "night sights", to compliment the irons. Also have been using a vfg and then ill take it off, then back on. What are the thoughts about using/not using them. Not looking for a complete minimalist gun, but wondering how well i/it can perform without the accessories. Nothing wrong with just using irons if that's what you prefer. I think night sights on an AR is a gimmick. The use of a VFG is a matter of personal preference, some like them, others don't. I use a VFG on my carbine for 2 reasons: it greatly aids in the use of a weapon light, and it provides storage for a small bottle of lube, and spare cam pin and firing pin retainer. |
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It will perform just fine stock.
The key is to go out and shoot it, or even get signed up for a training class. There are alot of things that you will thing look really cool until you actually go out and train with it. You also may think some thing is ugly, then discover that It works very well. At first I didn't like FVGs(forward vertical grips) until I found out I was using it wrong, now almost all of my rifles have them. I wouldn't get Iron "night sights", but I would get a good red dot(Aimpoint) with a quick release mount. There are a lot of assesories out there as you know but the rifle will only get heavier the more you put on. |
| I shoot regularly, 3-4 times a month, and that is why i have started rethinking my rifle. With my vfg i would shoot thumb up, and it felt comfortable, but my accuracy seemed to go south. So then i would think it was that the optic was off, so i'd fiddle with that. I would like to eventually have some sort of optic, probably something along the acog line, as i hate batteries, electronics. And i would like to keep the ability to mount my surefire if needed. Starting to think i was taking on too much at once. Trying to make it all work, without being set with the basics. I have upgraded my buis, to yhm flips, not the best I hear but they get great reviews. |
I too tried a VFG and a Clonepoint on my carbine to see if I liked them. In the end I sold the Clonepoint as well as my flattop midlength upper and put together a lightweight carbine out of a CavArms polymer lower, A1 slickside upper receiver and a Bushmaster chrome lined 1/7 LW barrel assy. I added one "bell and whistle", a TLR-1 light on a MI FSB mount. This has turned out to be a excellent combination for me. My hand lines up perfectly on the switch of the light with the carbine length gas system and I prefer the simple irons of the A1 upper once I added a A2 aperture. The 1/7 LW barrel gives me flexibility from the 52gr Black Hills blue box to the 75gr Prvi that I have stocked. It has become my go to weapon of choice.
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Not really sure if this is the right place to post this. I got in to the AR 15 game last year, previously was ak 47 addicted, with a M&P 15. Immediately bought all the accessories I "thought" i needed. Now, i am rethinking the role of the gun. My questions are mainly opinions i know but would like some input. Is it way out of whack to just use iron sights. Was thinking of getting a good set of "night sights", to compliment the irons. Also have been using a vfg and then ill take it off, then back on. What are the thoughts about using/not using them. Not looking for a complete minimalist gun, but wondering how well i/it can perform without the accessories. Nothing wrong with just using irons if that's what you prefer. I think night sights on an AR is a gimmick. The use of a VFG is a matter of personal preference, some like them, others don't. I use a VFG on my carbine for 2 reasons: it greatly aids in the use of a weapon light, and it provides storage for a small bottle of lube, and spare cam pin and firing pin retainer. Why would you say they are a gimmick? Are they a gimmick on a pistol as well? |
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I would say you are better off with a optic and light or irons and a light instead of night sights on a AR. Being able to see your sights does not help much if you cannot see your target. I agree, but if you dont have an optic and you cant line up your sights what good are they? You might as well hip fire at that point. Having night sights on something without an optic is not a gimmick... 
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| I had a set of XS night sights on my first carbine, bought on impulse. I did not have a light at the time. They are, IMO, a close range backup to the weapon light. If the light fails and it is dark enough to need the night sights I probably do not have a good enough identification of the target to be shooting. It just was not enough to justify the way it distracted me at longer ranges. I would not go so far as to call it a gimmick but negative redundancy comes to mind. |
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