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Posted: 3/22/2009 10:44:08 AM EDT
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So I finally got around to reading the majority of this thread last night.
I would like to hear from people who have PERSONALLY, or personally knows somebody who has put one of the so called "inferior tier" rifles (i.e. RRA, Bushmaster, DPMS, Stag, etc.) through one of these courses, and what the outcome was. Please provide specifics (i.e. rifle make, malfunctions, part breakage, etc.) I am not asking for opinions and speculations, but rather first hand experience. Thanks. For those who haven't read the thread I'm referring to, it's tacked towards the top of this forum. |
I HAVE personally seen all of the above brands (and more) run through a number of basic and advanced classes. I can recall on two occasions where bolts have sheered off (one was a DPMS and one was a Bushy). Various extractor and ammo/mag problems were also noted, but as a whole they all ran fine......now the operators, that is another story! 
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Bushmaster AR15 at the latest class i went to had numerous double feeds despite proper lubrication and good magazines (pmags)
I had to mortar the damned thing for the guy twice. This was a factory rifle that was quite old but did NOT have a high round count on it. The owner said it was four+ years old. |
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Most of the instructors I've trained under will repeat the same experience.... Colts give the least amount of problems to their owners. A lot of folks don't want to hear that, but it is what it is.
As far as what I've personally seen... An Olympic Arms with all kinds of feeding issues. The bolt catch didn't even grab the bolt. It stopped on the carrier. An Oly should never be taken to a class for training. I've also seen a guy get short strokes from a carrier key that came loose due to not being staked. Other than that I've never seen actual metal breakage. |
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Bushmaster AR15 at the latest class i went to had numerous double feeds despite proper lubrication and good magazines (pmags) I had to mortar the damned thing for the guy twice. This was a factory rifle that was quite old but did NOT have a high round count on it. The owner said it was four+ years old. I'm thinking that if a rifle experiences numerous double feeds, than carbine course or not, that problem should become apparent with moderate range time. Anyone disagree? |
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Most of the instructors I've trained under will repeat the same experience.... Colts give the least amount of problems to their owners. A lot of folks don't want to hear that, but it is what it is. As far as what I've personally seen... An Olympic Arms with all kinds of feeding issues. The bolt catch didn't even grab the bolt. It stopped on the carrier. An Oly should never be taken to a class for training. I've also seen a guy get short strokes from a carrier key that came loose due to not being staked. Other than that I've never seen actual metal breakage. Thanks, good info, and I'm pretty sure that Olys go into the bottom tier category anyway, I would never buy one. Proper carrier key staking is most certainly a must to ensure reliability. I have had the staking improved on both my RRAs. Thanks guys, keep the experience info coming. |
| When I bought my MP15 it had loose staking, but it held, since then I've swapped it for a LMT enhanced BCG. A guiselle automatic trigger and a H buffer. The rifle has never jammed on me once. Here is a nice comparison chart. How did an AK go down, those things a reliable reputation? |
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Last carbine course I was in, both AKs went down. IIRC everyone else had a "tier one" AR. "tier one" meaning Colt? The Ak's went down, really? What exactly happened to them? Can't really remember. Feeding or extraction problems. I know, not very specific. I think one got fixed and the other was put to the side for the shooter's backup, an AR. I was shooting a Colt/BCM (though I also shot a S&W 5.45 for a while), my boss was shooting a Colt, the other two people with us were shooting Noveskes. Instructor (Larry Vickers) was shooting a 6920. I don't recall seeing any DPMS, etc guns there. |
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I saw a Rock River 2 stage trigger become a very light single stage halfway through the 1st string at a Sig Academy class. We students didn't know what was happening until we heard a loud "What...the...FUCK?" from one end of the firing line. Class came to a stop as the owner tried (in vein) to un-ass his trigger.
Didn't think much of it really, until a few months later my own RRA 2 stage did the exact same thing 
So I finally got around to reading the majority of this thread last night, and boy is the Kool-aid strong in that one.
Do you disagree with the thrust of the thread? Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion of course, but Pat Rogers is certainly not a KoolAid drinker. Pat has no agenda, aside from making sure his students win the fight. Maybe I'm just misinterpreting what you meant though 
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I have personally seen a Bushmaster go down in a class as well as one RRA. The Bushmaster was a parts gun (all Bushmaster) with a slew of issues from the gas key coming loose to the stock unscrewing itself. The RRA disintegrated a bolt at the cam pin. Also one Olympic that just had a lot of issues but some of those may have been magazine related.
Colt rifles seem to fair a bit better. Just don't mix Wolf and XM193. |
I've run Bushmasters and Stags at a few classes with zero issues. But the rifles were broken in and had extractor upgrades. Both uppers were disassembled and reassembled by myself too be because they had excessive windage and or gas tube/BCG alignment issues due to barrel nut clocking. I've had do do this with some of my Colts, LMTs and even a BCM...... 
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So I finally got around to reading the majority of this thread last night, and boy is the Kool-aid strong in that one. I would like to hear from people who have PERSONALLY, or personally knows somebody who has put one of the so called "inferior tier" rifles (i.e. RRA, Bushmaster, DPMS, Stag, etc.) through one of these courses, and what the outcome was. Please provide specifics (i.e. rifle make, malfunctions, part breakage, etc.) I am not asking for opinions and speculations, but rather first hand experience. Thanks. For those who haven't read the thread I'm referring to, it's tacked towards the top of this forum. Looks like your finding the same info that was already in the "what breaks in a carbine course" thread. I don't really know what you were expecting. Pat Rogers is one of the most respected individuals in the industry and if he says some guns are inferior to others, he most likely has a good reason for it. |
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So I finally got around to reading the majority of this thread last night, and boy is the Kool-aid strong in that one. I would like to hear from people who have PERSONALLY, or personally knows somebody who has put one of the so called "inferior tier" rifles (i.e. RRA, Bushmaster, DPMS, Stag, etc.) through one of these courses, and what the outcome was. Please provide specifics (i.e. rifle make, malfunctions, part breakage, etc.) I am not asking for opinions and speculations, but rather first hand experience. Thanks. For those who haven't read the thread I'm referring to, it's tacked towards the top of this forum. Looks like your finding the same info that was already in the "what breaks in a carbine course" thread. I don't really know what you were expecting. Pat Rogers is one of the most respected individuals in the industry and if he says some guns are inferior to others, he most likely has a good reason for it. JFC! I never intended to question Pat Roger's experience or knowledge, I simply didn't find any specifics in that thread and wanted to hear from people that have put lower tier rifles thru courses, what the rifles were, and what the malfunctions/breakages were, if any. That's all! Anyway, I removed the Kool-aid reference from my OP so as not to offend anybody. |
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So I finally got around to reading the majority of this thread last night, and boy is the Kool-aid strong in that one. I would like to hear from people who have PERSONALLY, or personally knows somebody who has put one of the so called "inferior tier" rifles (i.e. RRA, Bushmaster, DPMS, Stag, etc.) through one of these courses, and what the outcome was. Please provide specifics (i.e. rifle make, malfunctions, part breakage, etc.) I am not asking for opinions and speculations, but rather first hand experience. Thanks. For those who haven't read the thread I'm referring to, it's tacked towards the top of this forum. Looks like your finding the same info that was already in the "what breaks in a carbine course" thread. I don't really know what you were expecting. Pat Rogers is one of the most respected individuals in the industry and if he says some guns are inferior to others, he most likely has a good reason for it. JFC! I never intended to question Pat Roger's experience or knowledge, I simply didn't find any specifics in that thread and wanted to hear from people that have put lower tier rifles thru courses, what the rifles were, and what the malfunctions/breakages were, if any. That's all! Anyway, I removed the Kool-aid reference from my OP so as not to "offend" anybody. No problem. Just the way you asked the questioned seemed to imply that you did not believe some guns have more problems than others in carbine courses, most likely because of your use of the word "kool aid", putting "personal" in all caps, and writing "so called inferior tier rifles". Wanting to know others people's opinions and experiences is an extremely legitimate question though and I'm sorry if I misinterpreted your intention. |
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The whole koolaid thing is an overused misnomer around here. It is supposed to refer to brainwashing. If you think Colt is the standard, that is not some line of bs that someone used deception/manipulation to convince you. It is a verifiable fact.
However, if you think everything from dpms to rra is 'just as good' then you've been brainwashed. |
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I ran my franken AR thru the front sight 4 day basic rifle course. I used CProducts stainless steel mags the entire 4 days. Out of aprox 600 rounds fired I had 0 failures. I'd been using this same rifle for our local rifle matches and it had a history of running good. OTOH, I did bring a spare rifle anyway.
Rifle: CMMG 16" medcon barrel set up as a dissapator. Complete upper purchased from CMMG already assembled. Fulton lower LPK from Fulton Surplus A1 stock. My buddie's Kolt Karbine had multiple failures. All seemed to be caused by the USGI mags he was using. He weeded out the bad ones and had fewer misfeeds as we went on. As I recall he trashed about half a dozen of his mags. BSW |
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I ran my franken AR thru the front sight 4 day basic rifle course. I used CProducts stainless steel mags the entire 4 days. Out of aprox 600 rounds fired I had 0 failures. 600 rounds over 4 days is not exactly a high round count to prove a whole lot of anything with respect to durability/reliability and what parts break on an AR IMO. |
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I ran my franken AR thru the front sight 4 day basic rifle course. I used CProducts stainless steel mags the entire 4 days. Out of aprox 600 rounds fired I had 0 failures. 600 rounds over 4 days is not exactly a high round count to prove a whole lot of anything with respect to durability/reliability and what parts break on an AR IMO. Well, it wasn't this class http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYvEFATaRMY It was more the kind of class where you learn stuff instead of blasting ammo. BSW |
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First course I went to, it was around 500-600 rounds (I know I burned 500 and some). Most of the morning the first day is non firing (admin, weapon inspection, teaching sling use,). Ran with my Bushmaster M4/C7 upper the rifle ran fine the entire course. I saw an Oly that had several problems, and we had one Colt choke once (which is why I remember it).
Next class I went to I had a new Bushmaster with a lightweight barrel/flattop. I didn't intend on using this upper (I only brought it along for testing before class (this was a night course so we didn't start till the afternoon). Instructor suggested I try it. Brand new not 50 rounds through it and it hiccuped once less than 2 magazines into the course (failure to properly feed). While I screwed up the immediate action drill that was the only failure the AR had. I don't recall any other rifles having an issue. This also would be considered a 'light' course by Pat's standards only around 700 rounds over 2 1/2 days. Next time I was out at FIRE (for a tactics course) I did talk to some of the guys taking the carbine course. One had a 'franken gurn', nice guy but the rifle had issues the first day and IIRC went down for the count on the second. Prior to the events on 9/11 I used to participate in a tactical rifle match in NoVa. We'd run through 400-500 rounds in a couple of hours (the team stage especially had us running through almost half of the round count in 10 minutes). I never saw a Colt have a problem. Though I did see a FF Tube on a Colt loosen up (it was not a factory install), There was one Buchmaster 20" that had cycling problems (owner sent it back to BM for work and it ran fine at future matches), I saw several franken guns lock up during the course these were usually running 'match' stainless barrels with SAMMI .223 chambers. My M4/C7 usually ran fine during the matches I did have one day when I ran with laqued steel case ammo (prior to the Wolf brand) where 4 rounds failed to fire but I shot 500 rounds of it that morning. I've had a couple of failures duing the matches related to magazines (tossed them and the problem stopped). We at the Maryland AR-15 Shootesr Site used to run monthly shoots. I saw several Olys & DPSM rifles fail to cycle on ammo that ran fine in my Bushy M4/C7; I'd also note those Olys and DPMS rifle shot much tighter groups than my M4 but they could not keep up in the reliability department. |
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I ran my franken AR thru the front sight 4 day basic rifle course. I used CProducts stainless steel mags the entire 4 days. Out of aprox 600 rounds fired I had 0 failures. 600 rounds over 4 days is not exactly a high round count to prove a whole lot of anything with respect to durability/reliability and what parts break on an AR IMO. Well, it wasn't this class http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYvEFATaRMY It was more the kind of class where you learn stuff instead of blasting ammo. BSW There are several classes one can attend (that are not Dillon Aero classes...) where one can learn stuff AND not just "blast ammo" while exceeding "approx 600" rounds is my point. Thats all. |
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I ran my franken AR thru the front sight 4 day basic rifle course. I used CProducts stainless steel mags the entire 4 days. Out of aprox 600 rounds fired I had 0 failures. 600 rounds over 4 days is not exactly a high round count to prove a whole lot of anything with respect to durability/reliability and what parts break on an AR IMO. Well, it wasn't this class http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYvEFATaRMY It was more the kind of class where you learn stuff instead of blasting ammo. BSW Learning stuff is great, but how can you learn weapon malfunctions without shooting enough to have one?... Also, that isn't that many reloads/tac reloads, transitions, etc. I'd rather put rounds downrange as training. 
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I ran my franken AR thru the front sight 4 day basic rifle course. I used CProducts stainless steel mags the entire 4 days. Out of aprox 600 rounds fired I had 0 failures. 600 rounds over 4 days is not exactly a high round count to prove a whole lot of anything with respect to durability/reliability and what parts break on an AR IMO. Well, it wasn't this class http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYvEFATaRMY It was more the kind of class where you learn stuff instead of blasting ammo. BSW Learning stuff is great, but how can you learn weapon malfunctions without shooting enough to have one?... Also, that isn't that many reloads/tac reloads, transitions, etc. ] That part in red is exactly my point, 600 rounds is not a whole lot to test the failure/functionability of an AR IMO. That said, what is the threshold ? There isnt one, I think guys who shoot for a living or as a job have a better handle on this then any of us who just attend a class "every so often". People with cred like Pat etc give us a good insight into this, thats for certain. |
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The OP appears to be defending his choice of rifle, and his propensity to bash Colt. The "Kool-aid" comment is very telling.
The choice is simple, believe what you wish. If you want to believe you know better than one of the most reputable, experienced, and knowledgeable people in the industry do so quietly because you make yourself look like a fool. |
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So I finally got around to reading the majority of this thread last night, and boy is the Kool-aid strong in that one.
Do you disagree with the thrust of the thread? Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion of course, but Pat Rogers is certainly not a KoolAid drinker. Pat has no agenda, aside from making sure his students win the fight. Maybe I'm just misinterpreting what you meant though I don't think you are misreading him. Here is his quote about the thread from a different thread. Quoted:
Be careful, the Kool-aid is very strong in this thread, and IMO somewhat misleading. Here is his summary of the what parts break thread Quoted:
This would be much more valuable than a thread that basically says Colts rule and everything else sucks. Put this together with the Kool-aid, so called inferior, etc. He got the answers he was looking for. He just didn't like them. We can see if this thread produces a bunch of guys with Oly's who's rifle has been flawless through a course. In my opinion, this will still be less valuable than a guy who see's 30,000 rnds per class for a decade. Captain when you get a second. How is the thread misleading? What is your experiance that shows that Oly, Bushmaster, etc is just as good as the rifles he lists as recommended? Can you explain why you think it's Pat's drinking Kool-aid when he says Colt is the benchmark. |
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The OP appears to be defending his choice of rifle, and his propensity to bash Colt. The "Kool-aid" comment is very telling. The choice is simple, believe what you wish. If you want to believe you know better than one of the most reputable, experienced, and knowledgeable people in the industry do so quietly because you make yourself look like a fool. Not defending or claiming to know more, just looking for first hand experience and specifics, that's all. That thread does not mention much about what makes have more problems than others. |
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So I finally got around to reading the majority of this thread last night, and boy is the Kool-aid strong in that one.
Do you disagree with the thrust of the thread? Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion of course, but Pat Rogers is certainly not a KoolAid drinker. Pat has no agenda, aside from making sure his students win the fight. Maybe I'm just misinterpreting what you meant though I don't think you are misreading him. Here is his quote about the thread from a different thread. Quoted:
Be careful, the Kool-aid is very strong in this thread, and IMO somewhat misleading. Here is his summary of the what parts break thread Quoted:
This would be much more valuable than a thread that basically says Colts rule and everything else sucks. Put this together with the Kool-aid, so called inferior, etc. He got the answers he was looking for. He just didn't like them. We can see if this thread produces a bunch of guys with Oly's who's rifle has been flawless through a course. In my opinion, this will still be less valuable than a guy who see's 30,000 rnds per class for a decade. Captain when you get a second. How is the thread misleading? What is your experiance that shows that Oly, Bushmaster, etc is just as good as the rifles he lists as recommended? Can you explain why you think it's Pat's drinking Kool-aid when he says Colt is the benchmark. Perhaps "misleading" was a poor choice of words on my part. It just seems a little vague when it hints that if you don't have a Colt, you're rifle will go down, when surely some makes must do better than others. Also, I removed the Kool-aid statement from my post, no offense was meant. |
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Learning stuff is great, but how can you learn weapon malfunctions without shooting enough to have one?... Also, that isn't that many reloads/tac reloads, transitions, etc. I'd rather put rounds downrange as training. We set up malfunctions and practiced clearing them. Since I ran the whole class without any malfunctions I would not have gotten any practice clearing them if we hadn't artificially introduced them. We practiced reloads by loading a mag with 2 rounds, firing to bolt lock back and doing the reload. Same skill set as emptying a full mag but much easier on my ammo budget. I believe that you can't acquire good firearm skills without expending ammo, but merely expending ammo doesn't teach good skills. BTW, we had 20 shooters in our class, assume 600 rounds per shooter for 12000 rounds expended by use during the entire class. As I said earlier, we had 2 rifles fail, a S&W M&P and a Springfield M1A. We also had 1 AK shooter and a couple of AUGs. Pretty much everybody else was running ARs of one type or another. BSW |
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Learning stuff is great, but how can you learn weapon malfunctions without shooting enough to have one?... Also, that isn't that many reloads/tac reloads, transitions, etc. I'd rather put rounds downrange as training. We set up malfunctions and practiced clearing them. Good drill to practice indeed. |
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Perhaps "misleading" was a poor choice of words on my part. It just seems a little vague when it hints that if you don't have a Colt, you're rifle will go down, when surely some makes must do better than others. Also, I removed the Kool-aid statement from my post, no offense was meant. He did list quite a few others. BCM, Larue, New S&W, Colt, Defensive Edge, Noveske, LMT. I don't have a Colt. Nor do I have any plans for one in the near future. None of the Kool-aid stuff offends me. It just seems to me like there is a lot more info in the thread than you are willing to admit. That coupled with the way you ask the question gives the impression you are disagreeing with the info. I think that is the reason you are getting the kind of responses you are. |
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Perhaps "misleading" was a poor choice of words on my part. It just seems a little vague when it hints that if you don't have a Colt, you're rifle will go down, when surely some makes must do better than others. Also, I removed the Kool-aid statement from my post, no offense was meant. He did list quite a few others. BCM, Larue, New S&W, Colt, Defensive Edge, Noveske, LMT. None of the Kool-aid stuff offends me. It just seems to me like there is a lot more info in the thread than you are willing to admit. That coupled with the way you ask the question gives the impression you are disagreeing with the info. I think that is the reason you are getting the kind of responses you are. +1 Did you even read the entire thread  ? He mentioned more companies as being GTG than just Colt as stated above. Pat Rogers is also not the only one with experience in this area.
Do some research and you will find that the majority of well respected individuals in this industry will have a very similar opinion to Pat based on their experiences. |
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Perhaps "misleading" was a poor choice of words on my part. It just seems a little vague when it hints that if you don't have a Colt, you're rifle will go down, when surely some makes must do better than others. Also, I removed the Kool-aid statement from my post, no offense was meant. He did list quite a few others. BCM, Larue, New S&W, Colt, Defensive Edge, Noveske, LMT. None of the Kool-aid stuff offends me. It just seems to me like there is a lot more info in the thread than you are willing to admit. That coupled with the way you ask the question gives the impression you are disagreeing with the info. I think that is the reason you are getting the kind of responses you are. +1 Did you even read the entire thread ? He mentioned more companies as being GTG than just Colt as stated above. Pat Rogers is also not the only one with experience in this area.
Do some research and you will find that the majority of well respected individuals in this industry will have a very similar opinion to Pat based on their experiences. Again, I am not disagreeing with him, and I read through much of the thread, but not all of it. The intent of my post was to hear directly from people that have used "middle tier" rifles in one of these courses, and what the outcome was, nothing more. |
| i dont put down colt quality one bit, but most people act like colt is the only gun to own. i think they treat there civilian owners like babies with big pins, sear blocks and who knows what else, but i do agree they have great quality. i also agree a few other guns could run a course just as easy as long as it is properly built, broke in, and maintained, but also not all guns are created equal |
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i dont put down colt quality one bit, but most people act like colt is the only gun to own. i think they treat there civilian owners like babies with big pins, sear blocks and who knows what else, but i do agree they have great quality. i also agree a few other guns could run a course just as easy as long as it is properly built, broke in, and maintained, but also not all guns are created equal Not any more. |
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i dont put down colt quality one bit, but most people act like colt is the only gun to own. i think they treat there civilian owners like babies with big pins, sear blocks and who knows what else, but i do agree they have great quality. i also agree a few other guns could run a course just as easy as long as it is properly built, broke in, and maintained, but also not all guns are created equal compared to other non spec buffer tube, and no full auto BCG and poor staking etc etc etc? |
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compared to other non spec buffer tube, and no full auto BCG and poor staking etc etc etc? No one says a Non "Tier-One" wont run a carbine course. Maybe it will maybe it wont. Your chances of getting through a course with the least amount of malfunctions are much higher with a rifle made by a company which is "Tier-One". If your carrier isn't staked, it might or might not loosen. If your chamber is too tight (i.e. .223), you might or might not pop primers. If your extractor (Spring, insert, O-ring) isn't up to snuff, you might or might not have extraction issues. If your Bolt is made out of pot metal, it might or might not break at the cam hole on the first day. If your X isn't Y, then you might or might not Z. The list goes on and on, you're just trying to minimize the risk of a failure and maximize the life and potential of your carbine. Sticking to a tier-one manufacturer is the best way to do so. Sure it's possible to buy cheap and upgrade as you have a chance, but when you look back you're going to see it would've been cheaper to just buy right, right off the bat. That $1150 Bushy looks real nice, But so does that $1250 LMT, and all thing being equal, it's probably going to be more reliable. Not to mention those $100 dollars you save are going straight into upgrades which are standard on the LMT anyway. Oh and yes, If your rifle isn't parkerized under the FSB, it might or might not explode. |
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Learning stuff is great, but how can you learn weapon malfunctions without shooting enough to have one?... Also, that isn't that many reloads/tac reloads, transitions, etc. I'd rather put rounds downrange as training. We set up malfunctions and practiced clearing them. Since I ran the whole class without any malfunctions I would not have gotten any practice clearing them if we hadn't artificially introduced them. We practiced reloads by loading a mag with 2 rounds, firing to bolt lock back and doing the reload. Same skill set as emptying a full mag but much easier on my ammo budget. I believe that you can't acquire good firearm skills without expending ammo, but merely expending ammo doesn't teach good skills. BTW, we had 20 shooters in our class, assume 600 rounds per shooter for 12000 rounds expended by use during the entire class. As I said earlier, we had 2 rifles fail, a S&W M&P and a Springfield M1A. We also had 1 AK shooter and a couple of AUGs. Pretty much everybody else was running ARs of one type or another. BSW There is a difference betwee learning some things an actually running the gun. Running the gun is a far more effective way of learning. |
Wow guys, I can' t believe this thread of mine resurfaced after soooo long, I feel somewhat honored. 
The type of info I was hoping to receive when I posted this was experience based (i.e. I put X rifle thru X course and experienced no problems, or experienced X problems). I never intended to defend my choice of rifle or offend others, I was simply CURIOUS. Unfortunately my "kool-aid" comment seemed to throw the thread a little off topic, and for that I apologize. |
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If I remember correctly I read that Pat Rogers' school sent 650-670K rounds down range last year. Here is a man that has the skill set to know and the volume of guns passing before him to see what works and what does not. I have never understood the Colt bashing, with a proven track record and the volume of rifles produced with high quality parts what is not to like?
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Took a Bushmaster 20" factory rifle to a class earlier this year. Used D&H 30-round mags and NHMTG 20 rounders.
Only change I made to the rifle was to change the A2 stock to an A1, and swapped the A2 grip to a Duckbill. No malfunctions that I didn't set up over the three days. Maybe 1100 rounds fired. Got snowed and rained on for two out of the three days. |
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Stag lower, ASA upper, BM BCG (assembled and staked by me), Colt LPK, commercial tube, CAA stock and grip, PMAGs. the firearm was assembled by me, RRA Glacer guards with a UTG (/Made in China using crushed tinfoil metal, shipping cost more then rail...) single rail on the bottom for my TD stubby, EOTech 512.
1/2 way through first day, hammer pin snapped, tapped a new one in using Leatherman Wave as a hammer...lol. (CMT field repair kit in grip). Several Feed issues traced to the crappy buffer spring, swapped it out. second day...golden FTR, The Colt LPK was bought HERE on the EE and I think I got scammed, but the unopened package did seem to be Colt. LPK had about 1K on it. That was 2 years ago. Changed the bolt (its my spare now) everything else is still good, but I know something is going to break soon. About 10K on the firearm now. |
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